I like her but....

Yaoi_center February 26, 2020 7:43 pm

I like that she's a woman the know what she wants BUT she's doing the absolute most. Most female leads would just go with the flow or make their own flow but still follow the storyline. I like how she doesn't do that but she has to realise the duke is literally scared of women and she's the on exception because 1. She doesn't have any alternative motives 2. She helped him with the Susan case. But he still tries to show her that he has feelings for her by doing little things. Like proposing again in front of people in that cafe. Continuously going to the cake cafe knowing he know nothing about sweets but gets something for her everyday. Gets her a brand new ring with a tracker on it just in case she's in trouble. Opens up about his past. He also needs reassurance about her as well. You think running away will make the duke realize he has feelings for you? It'll probably fuck him up emotionally and mentally. She grew up in a "normal" home while he didn't

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    Yu Yang February 26, 2020 7:54 pm

    "Actions speak louder than words". While this may be true, i don't see anything wrong with her wanting to hear that he loves her with his words. For now, imo her actions are still within the acceptable range. I just hope she doesn't go too far lol

    Yaoi_center February 26, 2020 8:08 pm
    "Actions speak louder than words". While this may be true, i don't see anything wrong with her wanting to hear that he loves her with his words. For now, imo her actions are still within the acceptable range. I... Yu Yang

    She already did go too far he's dealing with a handful of problems and now she wants to get up and leave just to "test" his love for her. That's hella selfish he's trying his best and she knows he's not like normal people

    Yu Yang February 27, 2020 12:36 am
    She already did go too far he's dealing with a handful of problems and now she wants to get up and leave just to "test" his love for her. That's hella selfish he's trying his best and she knows he's not like no... Yaoi_center

    Haha that's why i said it was just my opinion, because i don't think her actions are too much. Hmm, it definitely is selfish but i don't think selfish is exactly a bad trait.

    Yaoi_center February 27, 2020 12:56 am
    Haha that's why i said it was just my opinion, because i don't think her actions are too much. Hmm, it definitely is selfish but i don't think selfish is exactly a bad trait. Yu Yang

    Its a horrible trait because if the roles were reverse the duke would be called an asshole

    Yu Yang February 27, 2020 1:07 am
    Its a horrible trait because if the roles were reverse the duke would be called an asshole Yaoi_center

    Hmm i don't really agree. If roles were reversed, as well as their lifestyles and personalities, i would feel the same way. But i'm only talking on behalf of myself lol

    Bambi February 27, 2020 2:10 am
    Its a horrible trait because if the roles were reverse the duke would be called an asshole Yaoi_center

    Don't agree with you
    communication is the key to relationships if the other party can't say hey I love you than you wouldn't be reassured he may be nice and caring and all that but wouldn't you like someone to tell you I love you and I want to be with you with words of love and he isn't doing that what Adele wants is reassurance that he actually loves her Words are greater in my opinion

    Yaoi_center February 27, 2020 5:05 am
    Don't agree with you communication is the key to relationships if the other party can't say hey I love you than you wouldn't be reassured he may be nice and caring and all that but wouldn't you like someone to... Bambi

    Reassurance comes in many forms people cam say I love you can just as easily hurt you. Words mean nothing actions mean everything. Take the priest for instance he says that susan is the saint but her actions says otherwise. Like i said before I understand that she wants to be reassured but putting pressure on someone to say those words won't get you a genuine confession, he could have just said it just to get her to shut up and be happy, he could have said it and did her dirty. But he's battling himself because of his own trauma. He has his own shit going on yeah she doesn't know about the murders and stuff but she knows what he's been through a person can't get over something traumatic easily. Yet she thinks running away is gonna get her what she wants. Like i said if the roles were reverse people would be calling him pushy, a jerk, an asshole, and a douche.

    Yu Yang February 27, 2020 5:05 am
    Don't agree with you communication is the key to relationships if the other party can't say hey I love you than you wouldn't be reassured he may be nice and caring and all that but wouldn't you like someone to... Bambi

    This is exactly what i was trying to say. I just couldn't be bothered using so many words. Totally agree w/you

    Bambi February 27, 2020 6:41 am
    Reassurance comes in many forms people cam say I love you can just as easily hurt you. Words mean nothing actions mean everything. Take the priest for instance he says that susan is the saint but her actions sa... Yaoi_center

    Still you seem like you're just blaming one party both of them at are fault one running away and needing reassurance second the duke can't even figure out his feelings for Adele what you gonna expect Adele to act? If someone just doesn't know they like you and out of
    nowhere wants to be with you in a marriage which you clearly just confused cause at some point PEOPLE NEED TO USE WORDS TWO POINTS one Words and the other action you need both you can't have one THAT AIN'T NORMAL YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE hun he may battling but at some point he needs to communicate and tell her because some actions aren't gonna fill it up that's just a bad way of thinking

    Yaoi_center February 27, 2020 7:44 am
    Still you seem like you're just blaming one party both of them at are fault one running away and needing reassurance second the duke can't even figure out his feelings for Adele what you gonna expect Adele to a... Bambi

    YOU'RE SIMPLY IGNORING THE FACT THAT HE HIMSELF NEVER EXPERIENCE LOVE FIRST HAND NOT ONLY THAT YOU AND A BUND OF OTHER PEOPLE IGNORE THE FACT THAT HE HAS A TRAUMATIC PAST. ADELE WHO IS HIS PARTNER KNOWS THIS AND HE HAS COMMUNICATED WITH HER ABOUT THAT. HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO EXPRESS WHAT HE'S FEELING BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S FEELING. SHE BARELY LET THE MAN GET TWO WORDS IN THE CONVERSATION BEFORE SAYING THAT SHE'S GOING TO LEAVE. HOW IS HE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW AND WHAT HE FEELS FOR HER WITH ALL THE SHIT HE'S GOING THROUGH? YEAH GRANTED SHE DOESN'T REALLY KNOW BECAUSE SHE'S SO CAUGHT UP IN WANTING TO HEAR 3 MEANINGLESS WORDS FROM HIM. Y'ALL ARE APPLAUDING HER FOR "KNOWING WHAT SHE WANTS" AS IF SHE REALLY DID SOMETHING. I'M BLAMING HER BECAUSE SHE'S BEING VERY SELFISH RIGHT NOW

    Yu Yang February 27, 2020 8:42 am
    YOU'RE SIMPLY IGNORING THE FACT THAT HE HIMSELF NEVER EXPERIENCE LOVE FIRST HAND NOT ONLY THAT YOU AND A BUND OF OTHER PEOPLE IGNORE THE FACT THAT HE HAS A TRAUMATIC PAST. ADELE WHO IS HIS PARTNER KNOWS THIS AN... Yaoi_center

    Imo having a traumatic past doesn't give someone the right to neglect their partner's feelings although i don't see it as being that serious it is still a form of neglect. While the words are obviously meaningless to you, to the character it seems to be important. Some people will be able to see things your way, and some(including me) can't. But that's cool, it's okay to have a difference in opinion.

    Yaoi_center February 27, 2020 8:54 am
    Imo having a traumatic past doesn't give someone the right to neglect their partner's feelings although i don't see it as being that serious it is still a form of neglect. While the words are obviously meaningl... Yu Yang

    I have a traumatic experience with have physical contact with a person and making eye contact even if it's for a second so I know how it feels. First of all mot being able to say words you don't know the meaning of isn't neglect. Second of all you want him to act as if though everything is gucci. Its like saying a r*pe victim should get over what happen to them and have sex with their partner or a domestic abuse victim should be more physical with their partner. I have been sexually abused and that shit isn't easy. Going through traumatic experiences can scar a person and its not something someone can easily get over. That's why I'm mad at Adele, I'm mad at everyone that doesn't see what she's doing is wrong and selfish. She's not being understanding and neither are you and everyone that is invalidating what he's been through

    Yu Yang February 27, 2020 9:43 am
    I have a traumatic experience with have physical contact with a person and making eye contact even if it's for a second so I know how it feels. First of all mot being able to say words you don't know the meani... Yaoi_center

    I have also had a traumatic experience and suffered through sexual abuse. But not everyone will handle things the same way. But that, and this manhwa, are two separate things. People can have such opposing opinions so openly because it isn't real. I didn't mean that he is neglecting her because he is unable to tell her he loves her because he doesn't know what it means. But him wanting her to be with him even though he isn't sure he loves her, is neglect. He is neglecting her feelings as she wants to be with someone she has a mutual love with. They are both selfish but it is what it is.

    Yaoi_center February 27, 2020 9:49 am
    I have also had a traumatic experience and suffered through sexual abuse. But not everyone will handle things the same way. But that, and this manhwa, are two separate things. People can have such opposing opin... Yu Yang

    He's trying like I said before through actions, she's not understanding at all yes he needs to figure his feelings out but to demand him to flat out say words he doesn't even know the meaning of and disregard what he's been through just to feel some kind of security in a relationship is selfish. She not even trying to show him love explaining it can only do so much but you thin running away is going to help you get a proper proposal? That's a whole joke within itself. He's being seen as the bad guy all because he can't say I love you when all she do is tease him to get her way. I'm angry about how people don't see that, there's only so much a person can comfortably give

    Yu Yang February 27, 2020 10:02 am
    He's trying like I said before through actions, she's not understanding at all yes he needs to figure his feelings out but to demand him to flat out say words he doesn't even know the meaning of and disregard w... Yaoi_center

    Wait lol i don't think he's being seen as a bad guy. Well i haven't seen him that way. Although it is frustrating for readers who want progress asap (me) haha. I guess we'll end up having to agree to disagree. The behavior of Adele that you seem to not like, doesn't bother me in the slightest. After reading your comments, i do get why you'd be mad though. I just can't see it your way.