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Well I won't defend that but they could have meant the writing felt very realistic to actual thoughts. Most yaoi is missing that. Also character depth.

Many humans are full of contradictions lol. He's not perfect and recognizes he took it out on McQueen but still couldn't muster an apology/still was wrestling with blame guilt etc. Very human. How many yaoi describe character emotions to this extent? I can sympathize/empathize with his feelings. I've been there in an argument with misplaced blame and being too stubborn emotional or partially right to go back and say sorry. I won't comment about Chang because I'm not that dark a human to understand him and would need more of his thought context. But he is a very self loathing human. I still think his villian character will have more fleshed out

Though I think Chang is hot I can't objectively like him and don't know much about him. Didn't say he wasn't cliche but most stories do have that. I don't think they've gone into depth with his intentions yet so it's too early to play semantics on his character

Yes of course well have some contradictions and also people will do random stuff that makes no sense.

BUT i would never blame someone for my own choices. There’s a limit of contradictions where its normal and where it’s overused for the sale of drama. Also the lenght(wtf how to write this) if time. If Ed blamed McQueen and then the next day tries to apologies, i would accept it as him just hating on everyone for what happened. BUT even after the heat of the moment, he still blames McQueen and thinks he is right.
And yet, he has a debt because of Chang but he still wish to be brother-like with him and can’t come to hate him. Meanwhile he blames McQueen for being a disgusting horrible person that pimped him out. And he hates McQueen. G fucking G

In the end, this is only happening because the author wanted to make more drama and for that, she needed to separate McQueen and Ed for some time.

EXACTLY. THIS.
Ngl I was hooked at 1st season but then the author just decide to throw all kinds of cliche in the 2nd part. Too much unnecessary drama and headache.

I read the spoiler and Chang will eventually ra ped Ed which's another cliche box ticked and isnt it ironic that almost half the comments are thirsty for Chang and a while ago people complained about how boring Mq is lmao at least he never force people to have sex without their consent and Eds reasoning is total garbage.

I think you're not taking the time to sympathize with his actions so they seem like just a plot point or nonsensical to you. But it is possible to have an opinion based on your emotions and hold onto that or be in denial or feel justified or feel stubborn for more than a day - your argument is very much from your own perspective and how you would deal with a situation. You are not him. I disagree with your full point here because it is made entirely from your personal standpoint and not the character. I think you're too dismissive so I can't agree that what you're saying makes sense

I talked as myself to make you understand people from the real world dont act the same as a manga.

If Ed was porotrayed a character that always blames others for his actions, i would think it’s normal because some people could be like that and that would be his character. But on the contrary Ed was protrayed as someome who can’t let go of the people he loves and wont blame them (he doesnt even hate Chang despite getting tricked into a high interest and losing years of his life for it). But the he blames everything on McQueen.

And of course, after breaking up with McQueen for such a stupid reason (because McQueen isn’t at fault)
1. He gets recruited as a prostitute and he accepts.
2. Chang now realize he loves Ed or idk whay revelation he has
3. Chang rapes Ed

And now that we finished this nonsense drama.
Ed will go back with McQueen.

Can’t you see that the author just used anything only to bring up her rape, because thats her fetish.

And once the rape is done, she will bring back the story and solve the drama.

calm down lol all of you are actually right to some extent, but you really don't see past yourself. Just bc you wouldn't blame him in that situation, doesn't mean somebody else wouldn't. Personally, I love how mc dished out everything and he had the right to do it in my eyes, even if you don't see it and, yes, I dislike him doing porn in the first place. He was just blinded with love before and then hit with the harsh reality, so his reaction is normal. Also, somebody needed to call mq out bc, let's admit it, he is full of bs, but so are all the other characters in one way or another, since they are cliches. Just like people in real life. Literally, ryan is the most understandable, since he is completely fed up with all the bs going on.

And yet Ed never hated Chang for the nice backstab and pretty much act as if Chang hasn’t done much. But he gets disgusted by McQueen and blame all on him.

Lol you act like one argument and venting of emotions is a person's entire perspective on another person. Maybe you've never had an argument or resentment that turned into a sour conversation that went too far? But there were some true feelings bottled up and mixed with that so it's hard to take it back. And you're still led by emotion so it takes a while to clear your mind. For Ed his whole life has felt so futile and hopeless he took a part of that out on McQueen for his part in it. Ed never wanted to do porn but felt at some point it was a way out of his debt. A lot of his feelings of bitterness and resentment are from his whole life bottled up towards Chang and vented at McQueen. Also maybe he's had disdain for porn and is venting that as well. Your explanation and reasoning is very one dimensional. His feelings towards Chang are even more complicated but he definitely has a mix of sad loss of relationship and hatred and unless you know Korean and know what was said in the raws your explanation of what happens is such a biased picture of how you see it since you scoff at this story. Anyway stop reading since you find the story nonsensical

I never said the story is awful or like that, I’m only pointing out why i find it cliché.

I am not being sentimental in my arguments, i’m just pointing out what I saw.

My whole point is the lack of realism(or common sense) in the whole drama.

You seem to think that Ed and Chang are acting pretty normal, that this is a common thing for people to act like that. Maybe you actually did something similar hence why you take is as something realistic. Or maybe you know many people who act like that.

And honestly, if all the readers find it realistic, then the author made a good job trying to make a realistic story for her audience.

Well circling back to before you're lacking sympathy of the characters actions and seem to not see the sense in them when it makes sense and does happen in real life. No this did not happen to me but I've had the experience of bottling my feelings and expressing them in a poor manner and regretting my choice of phrasing but still wanted to discuss the issues I was actually upset about. What is not realistic did you even read my last reply lol. I'm done with this though good luck with your perspective on this. I never said it wasn't cliche but all the most popular works on here are cliche just like pop songs you write for fanbase too

So you are saying you do understand Chang?

i can half heatedly understand why Ed acted that way but i had hoped that it would only be in the heat of the moment (but somehow he still is mad at McQueen even now). And you are talking as it Ed didn’t express himself the way he wanted. I dont think so, since his talk with Ryan made it clear he thought everything he told McQueen, but he feels like shit because still loves McQueen (even though he thinks McQueen is trash/disgusting/manipulative)

But the annoying point of all this is that, these foolish acts were entirely the source of the whole drama in this story.
The whole debt thing : because Chang *mixed feelings*
And the upcoming rape : because Ed blamed everything on McQueen and ended up prostituing himself.

I wouldn’t mind some foolish acts if they weren’t influencing on the story much, but on the contrary the whole thing is about that. So i find it a poorly made plot when the path is made that way.