Uhm

Stabrina April 12, 2020 5:12 pm

As someone who is some spectrum of ace, this latest chapter seriously icked me out. Sure his asexuality is trauma induced but you can’t just force the trauma of sex out with more sexual acts??

It’s like forcing a rape victim to have sex to get over their terrible experience.

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    Azalago April 12, 2020 9:05 pm

    The thing is he isn't asexual, he was raised by a shitty mom who taught him that having sex means being a bad peraon. He's the equivalent of someone who has been brainwashed by religious parents into hating having sex because it is immoral. That doesn't mean he should be raped, but it does mean he has been denying that a sexual side of himself exists (and probably hating himself for even having a sexual side.) Continuing the way he is will be very harmful to him psychologically.

    Anonymous April 12, 2020 10:20 pm
    The thing is he isn't asexual, he was raised by a shitty mom who taught him that having sex means being a bad peraon. He's the equivalent of someone who has been brainwashed by religious parents into hating hav... Azalago

    He could still be asexual though. I agree that he shouldn’t think that sex is morally bad but he could still be asexual.

    Stabrina April 12, 2020 10:21 pm
    The thing is he isn't asexual, he was raised by a shitty mom who taught him that having sex means being a bad peraon. He's the equivalent of someone who has been brainwashed by religious parents into hating hav... Azalago

    “his asexuality is trauma induced” is what I said and what I’m trying to say that he isn’t interested in sex because of trauma. My argument here is that what the ‘seme’ is doing is the worst way to go about treating such trauma.

    Viira April 12, 2020 10:26 pm
    The thing is he isn't asexual, he was raised by a shitty mom who taught him that having sex means being a bad peraon. He's the equivalent of someone who has been brainwashed by religious parents into hating hav... Azalago

    Some people are born their sexuality and some are their sexuality for other reasons, including trauma. His trauma doesn’t invalidate his a sexuality. Sexuality is fluid and perhaps in the future he will no longer be asexual but in this moment he is and what is happening to him is wrong.

    Azalago April 12, 2020 11:55 pm
    “his asexuality is trauma induced” is what I said and what I’m trying to say that he isn’t interested in sex because of trauma. My argument here is that what the ‘seme’ is doing is the worst way to ... Stabrina

    But sexuality isn't formed BY trauma. Example, a boy has it beaten into his head by his parents that homosexual thoughts are a choice and a sin. He spends his life suppressing those thoughts and dates only women and evendually marries and has children. Are you saying he is actually straight? Of course he isn't, he's just learned to deny that part of himself. Is he happy? Of course not!

    Viira April 14, 2020 7:39 pm
    But sexuality isn't formed BY trauma. Example, a boy has it beaten into his head by his parents that homosexual thoughts are a choice and a sin. He spends his life suppressing those thoughts and dates only wome... Azalago

    Read my reply. I agree that in the situation you lay out that he’d still be gay...but that’s one person and one situation. Some sexuality is influenced by trauma because sexuality is fluid and is a spectrum. Somebody might identify as a lesbian and later realize they are pansexual. There are also many instances of people going in and out of asexuality. Right now, this character is not interested in sex and does not feel interested in it. And if we go by your logicnin the first place, he has said he is straight so what his friend is doing is even worse. Either way, asexual or heterosexual, this situation is disrespectful of his orientation.

    Azalago April 15, 2020 3:48 am
    Read my reply. I agree that in the situation you lay out that he’d still be gay...but that’s one person and one situation. Some sexuality is influenced by trauma because sexuality is fluid and is a spectrum... Viira

    Sigh, no, that's not how sexual fluidity works. A major trauma-induced change in how one views sex is NOT an example of sexual fluidity. It's an example of the human mind being unable to cope with the trauma it experienced. That's not a natural change in sexual orientation, it's a deep-rooted psychological problem. Normally it would require therapy but this is a fictional story... and a yaoi.

    As for him being straight... did you forget that they are dating? Consensually ?

    Viira April 15, 2020 6:05 am
    Sigh, no, that's not how sexual fluidity works. A major trauma-induced change in how one views sex is NOT an example of sexual fluidity. It's an example of the human mind being unable to cope with the trauma it... Azalago

    If you think pressuring and manipulating somebody into dating you is consent I’m seriously disturbed. Have you just been skipping over the parts where he thinks to himself he can’t wait for this to all be over and that he only went along with it because he felt like he couldn’t say no and didn’t want to lose his friend by rejecting him...? He has expressed his discomfort and how much he doesn’t want to be doing this to the reader numerous times. He has also ASKED for the time period of their “dating” to be reduced numerous times. It’s been expressed constantly that he is doing it out of obligation. He has also said he is not interested in guys every time he has been asked. He said he feels nothing romantic when they kiss. And my point to the latter half of your comment is that we can not say somebody’s sexuality isn’t valid just because it might be trauma induced. If a woman feels bisexual but insists on only dating women and labeling herself a lesbian because she has a fear of men....it’s literally nobody’s place to tell her no she’s bisexual and needs to act like it and it would be wrong to be a man that knows she is capable of being attracted to men but doesn’t want to date or have sex with them but to come on to her anyway, especially if she says she is a lesbian...it’s not anyone’s place to say “no you aren’t because I know you’ve liked a man before”. How can literally anybody but oneself know what your “true” sexuality is anyway? We all label our sexuality based on what we feel and think at the time. If you feel like you don’t want to date or have sex, no matter what reason, it’s valid to say you feel asexual and to label yourself as such...the labels are literally only there to help us communicate what we do and don’t want from others anyway.