im starting to dislike the seme

I don’t think the author is ruining his character? Actually, what the seme is going through is very normal and realistic. No one knows how long they can stay in love with someone. No one knows if one day the spark will just disappear for no reason. He loves the uke but sometimes, he has to think it through if it’s for real or not because if it wasn’t, then he’d end up being like his ex-wife who eventually ditched him. He can’t make Masato go through that so he has to be sure of his feelings now. The fact that he doesn’t want to hurt Masato is more than enough to know that he really does care about Masato. It takes time to really settle with someone and finally be at peace. The seme himself has trauma he needs to comes to terms with so it’ll be ok in the end. This process is necessary for their relationship in the future.

thank you for sharing your thoughts.

i understand having the occasional moment where you wonder if the love is still there. but when you constantly see your partner as a convenience and continually use that word to describe them. Then theres a huge issue. Especially since he believes his partner wouldnt mind being a convenience. Can you even imagine your partner having that thought about you? So i understand having doubts, but not to this extent.

I think it's important to note the choice of words here.

Asahi CHOSE him because he was convenient, but isn't STAYING with him for the same reason. Masato happened to conveniently waltz into Asahi's life and Asahi just went with it cuz it was CONVENIENT BUT... that's not the reason why he stayed or pursued Masato after Masato tried to leave him.

Asahi is more worried about his reasons for getting INTO the relationship rather than STAYING in the relationship, and I don't think that makes him a jerk in any way, shape or form.

Yas

Asahi's character is realistic. People whenever they are in a relationship go through this. I don't know why though, I guess it's just a phase.

At first Asahi might have thought Masato was convenient, but that changed after the Kousei incident thing. It's jus how he will say it to Masato would be the problem. I think Asahi will come clean and explain it because he feels guilty and wants to be comfortable. So both of them, especially him won't be burdened.

That's just my thoughts.

thats the thing, its not a temporary negative thought he had. he keeps using the word convenient. i just dont want Masato to settle for someone that sees him that way. we all have fears, but when the thoughts dont go away? thats a serious issue.

how do we know he isnt staying with him out of convenience? he cooks and takes care of him, and the easy access to sex. some people stay in dead end relationships out of convenience, even if they dont love their partners anymore. i just havent really seen him show any genuine signs that he loves Masato. Jealousy isnt proof that he loves him either. Its just my opinion, i dont think he has ever shown that he is truly in love with him. Relationships are hard enough without at least loving the partner you are with.

I think Asahi had already shown it. He is still slowly opening up. From breaking the model house, and letting Masato see his father. People are different, they cope up differently and it takes time for them to be honest. His past really took a toll on him. He keeps thinking he is defective and such. There is an emotional scar with the word love. Because he saw his mother and father in love then out of love. That's why he keeps holding back with his previous lovers. Because he knows something is wrong with him and he doesn't want to burden them, that leads to distancing himself from his ex. I also think that he is returning to his old self, I really do. But Naru will interfere, as he said in the previous story Masato was the only one who melted his cold heart. Hopefully with Naru's intervention, Asahi will do something and prove to Masato he really does love him. He will show it through his actions and say it with his own lips with feelings.

What I got from this, is during Naruse's conversation with Asahi, it Naru that said "If Masato knew that you MIGHT, even SUBCONSCIOUSLY, chosen him because it was convenient...." Asahi did NOT confirm nor deny this, but instead, he said "that vague concern is always on the back of mind mind". To me, this means he feels guilty that the thought even crossed his mind in the first place.

If anything, he feels so happy with Masato that he's literally struggling to enjoy/hold on to that happiness because of personal past traumas. It always started out happy until eventually his mom threw away his defective father, then his own wife threw him away for his own defectiveness. Just the sheer THOUGHT that he *might* have chosen Masato out of convenience is enough to send Asahi on a whole personal guilt trip. The fact that he did not admit to this means deep down he knows it's not true, and his feelings of love for Masato are genuine, but he can't help doubting himself because Asahi sees himself as lacking the basic capability of being a man.

Also, not to compare traumas, but before meeting each other Masato and Asahi were both betrayed by their lover for another. There is a big difference though. Masato's story is easier for many to sympathize with because he got cheated on by an asshole. Asahi's story is more of a personal adult-struggle, he got cheated on because his wife wanted something he could not give - a child. From their re-encounter and breakup, I think they really did love each other, but could not be a complete family, and Asahi blamed himself for it. His pain is something less spoken about, but many people are struggling with the same pain and they don't share it out of shame for their "defectiveness".

In conclusion, I sympathize with Asahi, but I think this new plot about him getting over this personal struggle is very realistic and will lead to a more strengthened relationship between him and Masato. This sequel is about Asahi's growth and letting go of his past, just as the Prequel was about Masato's growth and letting go of his past. This series is very balanced, and it does a good job in reflecting their age gap and experiences in life.

If i remember it correctly isn't it the woman who is working with Asahi who put the whole convenient thing in Asahi head? She was the one who stated that the relationship was convenient hence Asahi started to have troubling thoughts about his reason for getting with Masato. She pushed things in his head and now it looks like that slut is trying to come in between their relationship.

i noticed that too. he didnt seem to notice her trying to hit on him though. i hope he puts her in her place... =/

It's decided, it's her fault.

XD

omg thank you, this! people are taking at face value what Naru said when the words might and subconsciously were in between that sentence. I understand people not liking him, his character can't be everyone's cup of tea, but to accuses him of this when is not really what is happening is really throwing me out! He loves Masato but he's afraid of being happy because every time he was happy something fucked up happened, so he's scared and self sabotaging his relationship. I think the conclusion of his arc has to be him exposing all his insecurities at Masado and the later reassuring him that things will be ok because both will be working in the relationship.

I suggest you read Love Nest again and understand them thoroughly and then read Love Nest 2nd from the start and understand it thoroughly as well. You can only understand a character way better that way.

Already did. I am older and see things that someone young might not see.

See things, but didn't experience it yourself right? (in this case, Asahi's situation.)

yes, i have. this is something that happens everyday. people stay together because its comfortable and convenient. you will learn about that as you get older. its not right, and no one should settle.

Well I am older too and I guess I see this differently. I did a long explanation up there already but I'll summarize it again, I don't think he actually got into this relationship out of convenience. Someone put the thought in his head and now he feels guilty, afraid that there might have been an once of truth. Given his past experiences dealing with his "defectiveness", it's not hard to see why he's having doubts.

For someone so older I'm appalled by the fact that you seem to lack the wisdom of an elderly. The man was straight before he got into this relationship. He was straight and broken. He is still broken and healing. At this very moment because of his insecurities a third person is twisting his love for his partner in a dark and ugly way. This man is not staying in the relationship because he is settling he is simply trying to find the answers. No one adjust at the snap of a finger. It takes time and he is trying to figure out if he is in this for the long run or if this was simply because he is running away and it was convenient as the 3rd party suggested. If he was truly staying in the relationship for that reason he wouldn't be beating his self up about it. Because when you settle you do not fight or think about a better life. You simply accept everything and keep it moving. He is not simply accepting he's trying to get answers for the both of them. I get that this manga probably touch something a lil close to home for you but come on Elderly person see the big picture here. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ you can do it.