I think people who brand this as another “rape fantasy yaoi” are kind of missing the p...

nilsuki May 10, 2020 5:47 am

I think people who brand this as another “rape fantasy yaoi” are kind of missing the point. I wont comment anything about the sexual aspects of it but I think theres a heavier emphasis on the theme of breaking of “given roles.” İts just that the setting is fucked up and would not work out irl but thats why its fiction. İts even listed as psychological if im not mistaken. And this manga at least has minor character developments and isnt just a porno fantasy thing. People may have different intentions while reading it (personally i like it because i also enjoy the main protagonist’s cockyness/strength perhaps?? and want to know how things are going to end) but İ think the author wanted this to be way more than just a “oh another rape scenario in yaoi”

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    nilsuki May 10, 2020 5:50 am

    And i guess each to their own ?? (İs that the right term idk haha) but even if people do point out the bad sides of it İ doubt itll do much other than overtake the comment section. Everyone knows that thats what is happening and you are right about your concerns but thats not really going to convince many people...? İm still going to read it you know, and no İ dont support such a consent lacking act at all.

    Lula5911 May 10, 2020 6:47 am
    And i guess each to their own ?? (İs that the right term idk haha) but even if people do point out the bad sides of it İ doubt itll do much other than overtake the comment section. Everyone knows that thats w... nilsuki

    Well said

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:41 am

    It doesn't change the fact that it's poorly written.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:43 am

    Author wanted to write something psychological but failed. They wanted something dark... It's moot of they succeeded or not. For me, not really. And the endless rapes especially in side stories are mostly for porn and smut purpose. Let's not add unnecessary double meaning to them.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 9:24 am
    Author wanted to write something psychological but failed. They wanted something dark... It's moot of they succeeded or not. For me, not really. And the endless rapes especially in side stories are mostly for p... @Anonymous

    Thank You I thought about rereading after I fell off from reading a few years back and I suppose I’m the only catching the direct “women are weak” spiel. It’s gross and pathetic when yaoi stories that are supposed to only involve men somehow find a way to demean women. Not to mention the pure vulgar toxicity of it. It honestly should have just been smut instead of feigning to be some deep, psychological thriller.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 9:34 am
    Author wanted to write something psychological but failed. They wanted something dark... It's moot of they succeeded or not. For me, not really. And the endless rapes especially in side stories are mostly for p... @Anonymous

    It does feel like she wanted to write psychological but failed. She’s caught between wanting to write something dark and psychological but the Yaoi bits which demand a happy ending (“couple” together) prevents her from reaching that. If she dared to not have them be together and to not push the “love” angle and actually had Azusa attempt revenge savagely this could be good. A lord of the flies scenario. But since she insists on Yaoi “love” that’s kinda impossible. Wasted potential.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 9:45 am
    It does feel like she wanted to write psychological but failed. She’s caught between wanting to write something dark and psychological but the Yaoi bits which demand a happy ending (“couple” together) pre... @Anonymous

    Exactly! These people don't won't dark and twisted. Not really, they pressure the author for "happy" ending which means seppuku for any dark themes and realistic writting.
    The revenge could have been savage. Karino's downfall could have been also so dark and good.
    But nope. Yaoi logic.

    Goryfantasy22 May 10, 2020 3:31 pm
    Exactly! These people don't won't dark and twisted. Not really, they pressure the author for "happy" ending which means seppuku for any dark themes and realistic writting.The revenge could have been savage. Kar... @Anonymous

    you know the story isn't finished yet lol

    lgbtanimes May 10, 2020 3:42 pm
    Author wanted to write something psychological but failed. They wanted something dark... It's moot of they succeeded or not. For me, not really. And the endless rapes especially in side stories are mostly for p... @Anonymous

    LMFAO why does it sound like one person writing the same shit

    Butterflyinwinter May 10, 2020 5:05 pm
    LMFAO why does it sound like one person writing the same shit lgbtanimes

    Because it is lol, the person keeps writing constant hate in the comments. Typical troll.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 7:34 pm
    Because it is lol, the person keeps writing constant hate in the comments. Typical troll. Butterflyinwinter

    I looked through your comments. The one who is spamming this comment section is you.(For years now.). Also attacking ekchem making discussion with nearly everyone who had the audacity to not like the story and criticised some parts of it. Yawn
    And I've never answered my own posts. Live in delusion. Probably I also made all the accounts which started criticise the story and it's plot. And I use different level of English each time.
    Live in your bubble

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 7:51 pm
    Because it is lol, the person keeps writing constant hate in the comments. Typical troll. Butterflyinwinter

    Oh and one more thing. Yeah I've written few posts. Although I've never answered myself as you accused me etc. But who cares. You know why people start to "troll". Because we can't stand "purified" comment sections and people like you who try to keep it that way. Although you are not the worst. But on this site people love personal attacks, threats. Oh the lovely times when comment could have been deleted by dislikes. In some comment sections only one opinion was the right one, one ship was the right one. Others were deleted and there was a real witch haunting. But when some of us see ignorance as people pretending rape is not rape because victim physically felt some pleasure, justifying rape, saying that someone deserves being raped, gang rape because he was mean in the past and that the biggest punishment for the serial rapist you can come with is losing Azusa FOR SOME TIME, just to get him back not long later... Sorry some of us can't stand such ignorance. And then you can make the whole essay with good arguments but then after your post there is another just above yours how Azusa deserved it all and he was shitty but op hopes he will have lovey dovey with Karino. I'm lost for words.

    Or people treating the story as some masterpiece. They have the right but let people express freely why they don't think it's such a good story.

    But I'm not gonna waste my time any longer (today I was barely there). I can't save the world and change people's mind about basic things like definition of rape... If people who don't care.

    Have a good day.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:14 pm
    Because it is lol, the person keeps writing constant hate in the comments. Typical troll. Butterflyinwinter

    And lmfao I never used offending words etc or made fun of anyone. I always try to stay civil in my posts. And I wouldn't call my posts constant hate.
    And to be clear in earlier post I was writting generally about the comment section and examples of some diamonds.

    And one more thing. I used to be like you and other people... the users who tried to make some points, point flaws etc... I mocked them, used manipulation, choosing parts that matched my narrative etc. Others love me and I got much approval. But with time I noticed these people were right. The ignorance on this site is disturbing. And it's not only among teens. People in their 20s, 30s use some not existing deviations of rape and sexual assaults, victim blaming, hating on characters just because they came between their lovely ships, saying that someone completely drunk or on drugs can give valid consent, who don't understand what coercion is... It's worrisome. I know it's not the place to educate anyone... But when you see that adult people don't understand such things.... It's better to educate them here... Then them living with such views irl. They can hurt someone on get hurt by their ignorance.

    That's all. Once again have a good day.

    Biss May 10, 2020 8:26 pm
    And lmfao I never used offending words etc or made fun of anyone. I always try to stay civil in my posts. And I wouldn't call my posts constant hate.And to be clear in earlier post I was writting generally abou... @Anonymous

    Definitions of rape*

    Butterflyinwinter May 10, 2020 8:26 pm
    I looked through your comments. The one who is spamming this comment section is you.(For years now.). Also attacking ekchem making discussion with nearly everyone who had the audacity to not like the story and ... @Anonymous

    I give info about the story I really like lol not attack people about liking a certain character , grow up and leave the fans of this story alone.

    Biss May 10, 2020 8:29 pm
    And lmfao I never used offending words etc or made fun of anyone. I always try to stay civil in my posts. And I wouldn't call my posts constant hate.And to be clear in earlier post I was writting generally abou... @Anonymous

    Your English is poor Hon.
    I can find more mistakes.

    Biss May 10, 2020 8:30 pm
    I give info about the story I really like lol not attack people about liking a certain character , grow up and leave the fans of this story alone. Butterflyinwinter

    Don't waste time on such trolls. You will see they are going to come back tomorrow.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:33 pm
    I give info about the story I really like lol not attack people about liking a certain character , grow up and leave the fans of this story alone. Butterflyinwinter

    Did I attack anyone? Show me? Not you are just making things out of thin air. You can like Karino all you want but you have to admit he is a rapist. Serial one. Not making excuses. And should face some consequences. Even for his own good.
    But whatever it's talking to the wall.

    Butterflyinwinter May 10, 2020 8:34 pm
    Oh and one more thing. Yeah I've written few posts. Although I've never answered myself as you accused me etc. But who cares. You know why people start to "troll". Because we can't stand "purified" comment sect... @Anonymous

    You think we don't know what rape is? If something like this was happening in real life do you really think no one would react? This is a story. And only a story. These characters aren't real. Ogawa Chise writes dark psychological manga. If you don't like it don't read it. That's all.
    Have a great life and release your anger somewhere else.

    Butterflyinwinter May 10, 2020 8:36 pm
    Don't waste time on such trolls. You will see they are going to come back tomorrow. Biss

    You're right. I just can't with people like this...