I like Chang a lot. What he did was wrong yes... but we can see that he has his fair share...

bro he raped ed

Girl he gave him a bug debt and raped him

Haha like I said what he did was hella wrong but I don't know... he's the one character I can't seem to hate ╮(￣▽￣)╭

its cuz hes hot isnt it

Really now? What are his good qualities, personality -wise? I really want to know what he has besides that face and body.
See cuz when we got that flashback I saw a guy lose a family whom he didn't seem to mourn and get dumped on his grandma who was probably pissed at him for not caring about the death of his father, her beloved son. When she took to Ed he wasn't jealous because he took to Ed too.
But he actually WANTED to embrace the mindset of an uncaring narcissistic sociopath and he needed to squash his feelings toward Ed to make that happen but they only grew stronger so he ended up as a a simple narcissist struggling with his sexuality. He settled for owning Ed. Betcha he was doing somersaults when he realized Ed was open to gay sex and he could give in to all his urges. He beat Ed up and raped him then he kept kissing him, why? Was he actually making love in his own mind? Sicko mofo. I hope Ed's eternal indifference destroys him completely and leaves him sitting in a corner in the dark, feeling love-sick and empty while wiping his tears away with a $500k check and a paid in full receipt.

I thought so too. Like looks aside, he actually loved Ed and didn't know how to keep him so debt. Something to make Ed hate him at least since he doesn't love Chang. He wanted to be a strong feeling inside Ed even if it can't be love. And about the rape, i mean let's be honest, Ed caused it by tempting him knowing Chang loves him. Its like dangling meat in front of an extremely hungry lion, its gonna bite. Like what the heck did he expect to happen

Wow, way to victim blame.. And, btw.Ed didn't realize Chang loved him until afterwards and he called it for what it was...disgusting.

Not exactly victim blaming just logical chain of consequences. By the way Ed talked about it, it seemed like he already knew just finally got a firm confirmation. At least thats how it seemed to me.

If I break the law, I do so knowing the consequences bc they are written some where. A cop may even give me a warning on it for 'next time'. Given their past interactions when they've argued before and Chang's open homophobia.. How was Ed to know that talking back would get him raped? It is a rhetorical question since I'm not here to change your opinion.

Also, found this handy definition on google for future reference:

'Victim blaming occurs when the victim of a crime or any wrongful act is held entirely or partially at fault for the harm that befell them. '

Anyway, I gave my take on Chang's love/possessive ness in my response to the poster's comments above.

Its the way he talked back o.o he suggested sleeping with him and leaned on him becausing he was doing his job as escort. Again he was dangling meat in front of him, heck he was mocking him with it a bit. He even said he could do him too if thats what he wants. About chang, there still isn't a whole lot about him that the author is giving us readers. So maybe we'll get to know him better later on in the manga. I respect your opinion. Just saying okay, to me he's not really a victim thats why I say I'm not victim blaming. Don't have to agree with me on this, he was escorting. Ahh about him calling it disgusting, I think he did that to hurt Chang more in the end.

bro tbh at the end of the day he still raped ed it doesnt matter "dangling meat in front of him" or not that still makes him a rapist plz don't excuse his terrible actions. he kept saying "no" and chang didnt stop. no consent = rape. ppl really need to wake up and listen. JUST BC CHANG IS HOT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN EXCUSE HIS ACTIONS AS A RAPIST!!!! like please this guy chang needs a redemption arc or something but even then how do you come back from rape. like ed was literally covered in bruises. gross

You're victim blaming dude. You literally said:

", i mean let's be honest, Ed caused it by tempting him knowing Chang loves him. Its like dangling meat in front of an extremely hungry lion, its gonna bite. Like what the heck did he expect to happen"


That is exactly why victims find it hard to admit they were abused bc they know how society usually blame them for it..

If you read the rest of my comments I say "I don't see him as a victim that's why I don't consider it victim blaming, he was escorting and he himself doesn't seem to take it to heart all that much either. Which is weird

Yes Chang is hot and so is Mcqueen. I'm not choosing his side or anything... I don't ship him with Ed at all. It's just I truly can't hate him

doesn't change the fact that ed said "no" and chang ignored him and kept going. he did in fact take what chang did to heart.