Now you sound like a husband telling his wife that he is beating her for her own good.
No.
i mean chanwoo can still say the safe word if he really didnt wanted to. but chanwoo prob doesnt know how to use the safe word man poor guy
This author does a terrible job in believable consensual relationships let alone bdsm. It’s beautiful art with romanticized toxic relationships. Bdsm is nothing like MD’s petty abusive jealousy. And please do not spread such ill informed misinformation.
You are talking to me? I just criticised op
Like literally, I sit here the whole day to talk to people that what MD is doing is wrong and it's horrible representatiom of BDSM ... So I'm rather shocked of your accusation.
My bad I meant @babybottom!
I agree with you
Oh ok. I agree with you of course!!!
This comment section makes me sick tbh.
I was hoping the author would do a better job with the second couple given how Chanwoo was initially introduced as self aware and confident enough not to be an emotional doormat like Dong-gyun but who was I kidding, she changed his entire personality and dynamic with MD to be just a continuation of some sick abuse play. It’s such a shame. It’s literally pulling teach to find a BL that doesn’t romanticize abuse or the very least acknowledges its impact on the characters as a negative rather than boyfriend material 101.
I haven't read a good, well written yaoi for a long time. Sometimes there are these neutral ones. Not super good but not harmful. But the rest... Smh
Yeah this author definitely loves her semes toxic.
But the comment section is unbelievable. Victim blaming, slut shaming, making flimsy excuses for MD, hiding behind BDSM as if it was answer for everything. They don't understand that BDSM play can really quickly get abusive and toxic. That what MD is doing right now is clear manipulation and really bad representation... An he is (supposedly) experienced dom.
I totally agree. I was so happy with their initial development. I am not into bdsm, but despite that I respect it as long as it is practiced safely. Their sub/dom dynamic aside they seemed very understanding of one another. MD was so tender and respectful and knew how to care for his subs. Chanwoo was spunky and able to stand up for himself (or so it appeared). I would have been content had the author just left them as is as soon as BJ Alex was over. She screwed up with Jiwon and DG, she just couldnt leave MD and Chanwoo alone. She was doing so well, they seemed to have such a healthy relationship. It appears this author likes the toxic tropes. Such a shame.
An important part of a dom's role is also to recognize when a sub is so far gone that they need to back off regardless of a safe word being used. They have worked together long enough for MD to know better. This is toxic and not a good representation of true bdsm. That being said, this is a fictional work by the author so it's their dog and pony show
“Claps claps claps” preach it. don’t get me wrong I’ve been reading BL since I was a preteeen and I’d say I’ve seen it all if I’m being honest so it really shouldn’t faze me. Yet it’s just so bizarre to me no matter what I read it could be a sweet benign plot and then I’m bam rape. I just personally have never understood the appeal. I like being dominated like the next person during sex don’t get me wrong but I’m attracted and fantasize about the lack of control willingly. Not the actual act of physiologically and physically broken at the expense of own autonomy. This is not what people actually desire when they have objectification kinks. Yet authors routinely use this as the basis of their work and incorrectly correlate rape with sexual freedom and experimentation. I just really worry about people who read this crap and internalize it. Despite not actually going out in the world raping people or purposely seeking to be raped, their ideas surrounding sexual eduction are impacted by what they’re told is deemed sexy or aspirational.
Honestly considering yaoi revolve around the smut, we cant expect them to portray something healthy or intelligent. That's where BL mostly comes into play. However these are two little gems that I absolutely adore.
This one is perfect. Not only is it funny as hell, but I appreciate how they discuss proper prep before doing the deed. I think it's pretty wholesome and the art is 10/10
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/boku_no_omaw
I like how the characters handle their relationship progression for the most part. It has its flaws but it isnt overly dramatic and they dont have a toxic relationship. They communicate misunderstandings.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/thirty_years_old/
Anyways you have probably already read these. And if not they might be too vanilla. I dont think ive seen anything hardcore that isnt the typical toxic yaoi trope.
Honestly considering yaoi revolve around the smut, we cant expect them to portray something healthy or intelligent. That's where BL mostly comes into play. However these are two little gems that I absolutely adore.
This one is perfect. Not only is it funny as hell, but I appreciate how they discuss proper prep before doing the deed. I think it's pretty wholesome and the art is 10/10
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/boku_no_omawarisan/
I like how the characters handle their relationship progression for the most part. It has its flaws but it isnt overly dramatic and they dont have a toxic relationship. They communicate misunderstandings.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/thirty_years_old/
Anyways you have probably already read these. And if not they might be too vanilla. I dont think ive seen anything hardcore that isnt the typical toxic yaoi trope.
Honestly considering yaoi revolve around the smut, we cant expect them to portray something healthy or intelligent. That's where BL mostly comes into play. However these are two little gems that I absolutely adore.
This one is perfect. Not only is it funny as hell, but I appreciate how they discuss proper prep before doing the deed. I think it's pretty wholesome and the art is 10/10
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/boku_no_omawarisan/
I like how the characters handle their relationship progression for the most part. It has its flaws but it isnt overly dramatic and they dont have a toxic relationship. They communicate misunderstandings.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/thirty_years_old/
Anyways you have probably already read these. And if not they might be too vanilla. I dont think ive seen anything hardcore that isnt the typical toxic yaoi trope.
I’ve read both thank you. And the thing is I actually don’t mind toxic plots I just don’t want it romanticized. Killing Stalking funny enough is one of the few best examples of a proper toxic relationship that is simply toxic start to finish. I don’t blame the author but rather the fandom in how it’s been romanticized. The author is on record even saying it wasn’t her intention, though she possibly had to have know given the subject material and the genre this would happen regardless unfortunately. Fujoshi don’t give a fuck two men fucking is always love in their eyes. But yah get your money sis.
Killing Stalking is def a good example of how scary the world and someone's headspace can be. Too bad the fandom ruined it every time. I dont think the author intended to romanticize them but 12 year old fujos dont know any better.
"This author does a terrible job in believable consensual relationships"
Or maybe it wasn't supposed to be a believable consensual relationship? Maybe the author really meant to portray a toxic one. Why are possibilities being thrown out here. Smh
For those who are saying that md is being mean to chanwoo, kindly remember that this is bdsm. A simple slap is nothing compared to the usual things that they've been doing in their 'activities/roleplays'. Even if you say that md is only doing this to get back at Chanwoo, but he is also doing this to knock some sense into him. That slap is a signal for him to win the 'mini competition'. Hopefully, Chanwoo would learn something out of this—which is I'm sure he would—, and for him to realize that md cares about him. This would benefit him in the long run.