I think you're doing that thing where you think being trafficked into sex is better than having a debt or a friendship betrayal (that someone tries to make up).
Also no one is shipping chang and ed, they want Mcqueen to be looked at critically. How you say "glances here and there of how he emotionally manipulated ed" and then describe chang's debt and betrayal with such strong language is scary and seems to indicate you think that trafficking someone who likes you into porn is a minor offense.
It's... not...
Ed came on his own to get a job at a porn company. And McQueen proposed to Ed to do more porn. There was literally nothing wrong in that. Wether or not he accepted only to please McQueen doesn’t matter because McQueen didn’t manipulate Ed into the porn.
It’s as if im selling jewelry, and you buy them because you like me. And then you get into debt because you couldn’t afford to buy them all. And now you are blaming me? LOL
Also the pay for anal porn was better than masturbation, and Ed is in a high need of money, so there is a high possibility he would have accepted with or without being attracted to McQueen.
As we know, he went to do prostituion because he needed money.
That's just not how consent in porn works and you can't compare it to selling jewelry, this is the problem.
Please go get educated about the topic. Also, we see Ed quitting porn before everything is paid off and we see him telling at McQueen about how he felt pumped and like garbage. Interesting that you can have such a clinical view despite the character's own statements.
*yelling / *pimped
What McQueen did to Ed can’t be considered manipulation. Just tell me what exactly he did (with chapters/pages) because i seriously have no idea where you see the manipulation.
Also, yes there are a lot of people who still likes Chang and wish he didn’t rape and gotten with Ed instead. (As if he was still a good ship before the rape)
Or people who wants a side story for him
Chapter 33, he says he has no problem shamelessly recommending people into porn and occupying their thoughts -- ie he knows he worms his way into their heads. Then he does it to Ed.
Tbh I dont want a side story of Chang, I hope these authors never touch these topics again lol. And I think the rape was brutal but also a good easy way for the author to tie up the story.
Let me know what you think of McQueen's internal monologue!
As i said, it doesn’t matter wether or not Ed was doing it for McQueen, because McQueen didn’t manipulate Ed into it.
Dude did you read? He clearly states he manipulated Ed into it
His monologue only means that he is charismatic and that it helps him recruit for porn.
Literally, he only made the proposal and then answered to Ed, confirming he would like Ed to do it. That is very far away from manipulating someone.
At that point, everything would be manipulation as long as
1. You ask for something
2. The other person says yes
3. The other person didn’t initially want to do it
Just because Ed regretted his choice of accepting McQueen’s proposal. It doesn’t mean that his consent wasn’t valid.
Bro you are really reaching here to protect McQueen -- he told Ed about the Lancer shoot after they'd had sex... have you ever had sex before????? Do you know about the vulnerability???
Also this is exactly what manipulation is !! Loool!!! Except usually manipulation like this doesn't matter but in the context of sex work it does.
Here's a definition of grooming in sex trafficking: "Grooming is the process traffickers use to control and manipulate someone into human trafficking. Although the specific actions are different, traffickers usually follow the same steps: gain the victim’s trust, provide for the victim’s needs, isolate the victim, force the victim into trafficking."
Yea and isolating/forcing the victim isn’t here at all.
Also McQueen didn’t especially try to gain Ed’s trust either.
And provide for the victim’s needs, well he is doing porn for money, i do hope he got paid.
McQueen didn’t follow these steps at all.
Yes i have had sex. And I don’t see how you can justify McQueen manipulating Ed just because they had sex.
Also, Lance was supposed to do it with Ed BEFORE McQueen did it with Ed. McQueen had to replace Lance because the plane was delayed(or something like that).
That means Ed was already agreed to be a bottom BEFORE having sex with McQueen.
What’s bothering me the most isn’t the story, it’s actually the comments. People saying McQueen was Ed’s pimp. Sure, with his glances here and there he emotionally manipulated Ed. Ed is a victim 100%. He never wanted to do porn and never actually needed the money from it.
Oh and of course all the love for Chang.... i too find it sexy when I’m backstabbed by a close friend and stuck for years paying an enormous debt. And treating me like im dog shit while they are at it.
when they ship for Chang and are mad at McQueen for pimping Ed when the reason why Ed had to do porn was to pay Chang’s debt
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