Yikes, you’re still being hostile. To be completely honest, you’re the one who seems butthurt because of your overkill reaction.... I’m just confused as to why you’re so mad lol. The literal definition of butthurt is “ overly or unjustifiably offended or resentful”, “an excessive or unjustifiable feeling of personal offense or resentment.” You fit the description of butthurt more than I do because of your reactions.
Again, I explained why I said shut the fuck up... Not only that, but when I was reading my comments I wasn’t expressing the same “style” you are. I was straight up with how I felt. I said I found it annoying, which is true. Not passive-aggressive whatsoever. However, you are being passive aggressive and a bit dramatic. Also the name-switch seemed to be intentional to me because of the tone your comment. Perhaps you need to be clearer with your feelings.
Say what? Overkill reaction? Like you just didn't wrote a 3 paragaph answer third times in a row? Not to mention your explosion to a simple comment like "i ship them " ?("Explanation" is no excuse in my eyes.)
Can you even sense the hypocrisity in your answers?
You're filling your comments with the lamest provocations and insults, while boasting how "civil" you are. How adorable.
My argument is, that you can tell your opinion, but this is not what you did. Also, you don't have the audacity to tell people what their fetish can be, or what they want to fantasise about, what they can think about.. i'm not even making assumptions, "etitled" is literally screaming from your answers.
You can tell people to "shut the fuck up" even multiple times how you did, but as i said, you should expect someone to tell you to go fuck yourself. If i wasn't straightforward enough with that, i'm sorry, but i think you can read between the lines well enough.
I'm also not going to change my sarcastic tone, because this is how i want to speak. You don't like it? I don't give a flying fuck.
Lastly, but most impottantly.. name calling is not my kind of humour, i was just too lazy to check twice.
Yoooo what? You’re calling me a hypocrite but you’re literally doing the things you claim I’m doing lol. My reaction wasn’t overkill, because I was making sure I explained why I said certain things etc. It’s just the way I talk/express myself. Just as you said being sarcastic is how you are... ^^ I am being civil, I’m trying not to be rude, or show hostility, or be sarcastic, or show passive-agressiveness. I never told anyone to shut the fuck up multilple times, never. Ever. Never did I ever do that. I’m not entitled. Entitled means “believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.“ yeah, no, I’m not. Sorry if I come across that way. I’m really trying be polite... Or I was.
I don’t have the right to tell anyone what fetishes they can I have? Haha, that’s funny. You just admitted that you think it’s okay to fetishize gay men, and their relationships... That’s disgusting. And yes, I called you disgusting. Which is meant as an insult. This time I actually insulted you.
There is nothing wrong with shipping same sex relationship and reading fanfic, as long as it does not harm other people. The problem is with those who do it to satisfy their fetish. I have stated that I don’t have a problem with it in my previous reply, I even stated that’s it’s okay as long as it’s just fun and games. Reread my comment. I stated what the issue is, and why I reacted the way I did when I said “shut the fuck up.” Which I am for. I apologize to the commenter, not you. For being rude to them.
Link provided below for explanation as to why it’s wrong... To FETISHIZE LGBT RELATIONSHIPS. Which is just- common sense- I cannot believe I have to gather evidence for this. I suggest you read the website. If you’re too lazy to read it, then I’ll quote. It’s not even a long read.
https://www.youthcake.com/2019/01/stop-fetishizing-gay-people.html?m=1
“Yaoi is one of the most popular genres in anime. Its only criteria? Two or more men in a gay relationship. This genre is geared towards women-- not even gay men themselves, despite being the subject of this category.”
“Gay men are not accessories, they are not your entities. Lesbians and bi women are not just the objects of your sexual desires. We are real humans with more to offer than the romanticized stereotypes straight people perpetuate.“
“The fetishization and romanticization of same-gender attraction is extremely damaging to our community. It dehumanizes us.” Dehumanizing.”
Anyways about your tone, of course I wouldn’t like it. I don’t think anyone would like it. It’s quite sad if you have to try and get your point across with only insults instead of having a “proper argument.” Insult after insult after insult... That’s all you seem to know how to do judging by your replies. Maybe you’re illiterate, actually, scratch that. Studies have shown that swearing has shown signs of intelligence...“intelligent use of language.” ( https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists) I’m not as smart as scientists, but it shows to me that you lack vocabulary,and cannot express yourself in a less offensive way.
More to show that the fetishize of LGBT community is wrong... It’s disgusting.
https://magdalene.co/story/fetishizing-gay-relationship-when-ship-and-fan-fiction-turn-toxic
“The same people who appropriate gay relationship also have internalized homophobia. For them, a gay relationship is nothing more than mere entertainment to satisfy their fantasy.
That behavior mirrors the way heterosexual males objectify lesbian relationship because they think it’s “hot” and only exist to satisfy men’s sexual desire.
Those shippers represent only the bad side of the fandom. Not only is it harmful for the fandom and the LBGTIQ+ community, it also shows blatant misogyny.”
One half of the fans supported the rumored relationship, saying, “It’s okay. Why would we hate them if they’re dating? It’s their rights to date someone.
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The agency later denied that they were dating, and the frenzy died down. But an interesting turn of event happened around the second and third week of July. The same male rapper gave a present to his male friend and fans started to ship them.
The reaction to the ship were different than when a female was involved. Instead of sending hate messages the way they did to the female celebrity, they expressed their love for the idea of the male celebrity being in a same-sex relationship, solely because it feeds their sexual fantasy.
They prefer their idol to date male than female because it suits their fetish. Or they would rather have their idols date men than women who aren’t them.“
Going deeper into it;
We all seem to agree that men who fetishize lesbians are gross but somehow we aren’t as willing to critique straight women who do the same with gay men. I wonder why... Unless you can provide evidence that it’s okay to fetishize LGBT relationships- PEOPLE... and that it doesn’t dehumanize them, and who they are as people... I don’t want to hear anything else. Because anything else after that will just be your opinion that it’s okay to fetishize them. You might as well block me, or mute me or something, because I sure as hell know that if I get another bullshit emotional reply from you I’m going to block you.
I think it's okay to fetishize something that's already a fantasie, like lesbian relationhsip in form of porn, or fantasie stories. I never clamied that it's okay to do it with real life people, in real life, cause as you said, it dehumatizes them. But right now, there is no one to dehumnitize in this story, cause the MC is not a human, just a drawing.
Just for these exact reasons i don't ship real life people anymore etc.
Also, replying to your insults.
There you are, spitting insults again, that i'm iliterate, dumb, while acting like you've never insulted me or anyone. Also, a few sentences after, you even admit to insult me.
I did curse and insult you, but i never denied it, like you do.
I'm not going to argue with you about my intelligence, cause honestly, it's pointless. Maybe im dumb, maybe i'm smart, you have no clue anyway, cause you don't even know me.
Also i think i expressed myself just fine, even though english is not my first language, but even if its lacks in some kind of way, i don't think it's fair to mock me because of it.
All i have to say , is, that i feel bad too, for idols for example. Let's look at Wang Yibo, he just looks at Xiao Zhan, and people are acting like they are dating. It's honestly , stupid. It's different from that here, because as i sad, we don't have real humans here.
You also have to understand, that those who choose this industry are already aware of the shitstorm in the community, but they still chose it.
About sexist discriminations of an indol love interests... it doesn't concern me, cause i support them regardless of gender.
I still disagree with you on the fetish part. Because it’s basically putting sexuality and the idea of an lgbtq relationship on the same levels of any other fetish, such as foot fetish, statue fetishes, pee fetishes, stair fetishes... Because all of those are fetishes. Which is in my opinion, disrespectful... Even if it’s fiction it doesn’t sit well with me. But as they said before, it’s a joke, so I don’t care for it anymore. I’m not even angered by the original comment because they said it was for fun and games.
Also, I really wasn’t trying to intentionally insult you, besides that one paragraph I said I was actually insulting you. I do apologize. I hope we can come to some sort of understanding, we have differing opinions... And that is that.
Listen, i get you what you were trying to say, i reread your answers a bit more carefully.
I want you to know, that i'm saying what i saying as an LGBTQ person. And maybe i'm just unsensitive cause i can't imagine myself being hurt over something like this.
i don't care if someone fetisihizes lesbian relationships, even if i'm in one. I 'm not really sensing anything from that damage they talk about.
I'm really sorry if i make you or anyone feel else less because of my hobbies, or preferences in the genders of a relationship. I confess, i think BL is my favorite genre, and my favorite eye candy. Personally, this was just a matter of preferences to me, i didn't consider how someone may feel hurt about it.
But even if you think it's discusting to make such a preferences, i'm not going to change my hobbies. It's just what i want to do in my little world, and i'm not ready to sacrifice it so strangers on the internet, or basically anyone will think i'm a decent person.
I understand that you have a different opinion about these things, and i'll respect your opinion.
I'm finguring you'll do that aswell.
Im sorry then.
It’s alright. You’re fine. I’m sorry for being rude to you.
What a great ending to this saga
Just talking it out and ending things with respect
Truly admirable (▰˘◡˘▰)
Kudos (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Sorry toooo(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
I SHIP THEEM AAAAAAAAA ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ