First, I want to come out and agree with the majority: Ginger is a dumbass. Let’s shake our hands on this.
But she isn’t the worst dumbass I’ve seen in comics. She’s they typical average dumbass FL you see in any manga in this godforsaken hellscape that we call “the internet”. She’s literally a dime a dozen. But the reason why people are flaming her too hard in particular (compared to other mangas) is because A) the situation is rather straightforward and a Ginger was literally given a map on how to traverse but she basically squanders it in favor of being “blinded by love” and not bothering to think one step ahead and B) I’m assuming that a lot of readers here have common sense and we’re all rather introverted individuals meaning we have a lot of practice being inside our own heads and fleshing out our thoughts. Combining this together we got an audience who are capable of critical thinking reading a character who lacks it.
Yes: because Ginger is a clinical dumbass that it makes her human and easy to understand. You don’t need to be a genius to figure out what she’s thinking. But Ginger simultaneously act like those frat girls you see in horror movies and the weird kid you knew at school that everyone was forced to avoid (or forced to hang out with cause your parents are friends with each other).
People defending her are missing the point about why the majority hates Ginger (and they probably didn’t realize these were the reasons or weren’t able to formulate it in this manner).
- Ginger is another straw to add onto our back of “stupid FL”. There’s a million of them. We’re plagued by them. Smart or Strong FL are rare, and I’m not counting the Mary Sue ones and definitely not the FL that are she-hulks (all brawn but not an inch of common sense).
- Ginger was given a handicap at the start of the story and immediately squandered it with bad decisions
- The way she fell in love is... mmm, not “unrealistic” but incriminating vain and superficial. I’m sure a lot of us know those sort of people who fall in “love” the same way but then immediately break up... love that shares the same expiration date as milk. It’s one thing if the author addresses these issues and point it out but we don’t have high hopes with lazy authors these days.
- Talking about lazy authors, this author is relying solely on Ginger’s incompetence to have any stakes or conflict in the story. Yes there’s her sister and that butler dude, but they could have been more than enough without Ginger’s stupidity. It’s a lot more rewarding and tense building knowing that the hero is going up against their equal or someone greater. But with Ginger? It’s like watching a bodybuilder beat up a disabled person (no offense to anyone). It’s not dramatic... just sad.
- the author is kind of... insulting the audience’s intelligence. In our modern world where technology is increasing everyday, our education is increasing as well to the point that we all have some level of critical thinking skills. We are a product of our times but our stories aren’t keeping up. Blah blah blah, Ginger doesn’t live in our time doesn’t excuse the author (who does live in our time!!!) not treating the audience with intellectual respect.
- Because we’re all more educated, we’re rightfully asking for more from our FLs. And no, not quite “OP”. If you think having some level of education or common sense is a super power, I’m sorry our authors failed you. I remembered seeing this stupid post defending a dumb FL going “I’m sorry I’m not cool, smart, strong, emotionally strong, or have any actual traits. But at least I’m kind!” Is that supposed to be impressive? Being nice is the bare fucking minimum and “nice” is subjective to begin with. What is this? Do we still live in the 1800’s where a woman is expected to be a mother and a nun at the same time? We’re allowed to ask for more.
- Ginger is simply the wrong character to try to relate to the audiences on this site. She’s the frat girl (again no offense) while audiences are the shy girls (seriously no offense just an equation). Vastly different worlds and Ginger has yet to show any real relatability to an a moderately educated audience with intuition. And don’t argue with “American audiences aren’t the targeted audience”. THATS EVEN WORST. HAVE YOU COMPARED KOREAN EDUCATION WITH AMERICAN???? They blow us out of the water!!!! If American audiences consider it laughable, what more Korean?
I have more but this is getting to damn long. Also, I saw someone commenting about a salary woman knowing calculus as “unrealistic”... that’s really sad if you think that. I’m an English major and I know fucking calculus. It’s seriously not that impressive. And remember, it’s Asian education and they’re advanced. I went to school overseas for a year and they were teaching trigonometry and pre-calculus to middle schools when we only start learning that in high school in America. Thanks to that one year, I blew out my peers when I returned to school and got an A in Calculus. And that’s just one year of foundation, what more an entire childhood and teenage years?
I am with you there a lot of dumb and annoying FL's and a lot of them are from chinese manhwas and japanese mangas and I just the moment they start being annoying
This webtoon however may have a dumb FL but at least her stupidity is entertaining. And I still have no reason to drop this
First, I want to come out and agree with the majority: Ginger is a dumbass. Let’s shake our hands on this.
But she isn’t the worst dumbass I’ve seen in comics. She’s they typical average dumbass FL you see in any manga in this godforsaken hellscape that we call “the internet”. She’s literally a dime a dozen. But the reason why people are flaming her too hard in particular (compared to other mangas) is because A) the situation is rather straightforward and a Ginger was literally given a map on how to traverse but she basically squanders it in favor of being “blinded by love” and not bothering to think one step ahead and B) I’m assuming that a lot of readers here have common sense and we’re all rather introverted individuals meaning we have a lot of practice being inside our own heads and fleshing out our thoughts. Combining this together we got an audience who are capable of critical thinking reading a character who lacks it.
Yes: because Ginger is a clinical dumbass that it makes her human and easy to understand. You don’t need to be a genius to figure out what she’s thinking. But Ginger simultaneously act like those frat girls you see in horror movies and the weird kid you knew at school that everyone was forced to avoid (or forced to hang out with cause your parents are friends with each other).
People defending her are missing the point about why the majority hates Ginger (and they probably didn’t realize these were the reasons or weren’t able to formulate it in this manner).
- Ginger is another straw to add onto our back of “stupid FL”. There’s a million of them. We’re plagued by them. Smart or Strong FL are rare, and I’m not counting the Mary Sue ones and definitely not the FL that are she-hulks (all brawn but not an inch of common sense).
- Ginger was given a handicap at the start of the story and immediately squandered it with bad decisions
- The way she fell in love is... mmm, not “unrealistic” but incriminating vain and superficial. I’m sure a lot of us know those sort of people who fall in “love” the same way but then immediately break up... love that shares the same expiration date as milk. It’s one thing if the author addresses these issues and point it out but we don’t have high hopes with lazy authors these days.
- Talking about lazy authors, this author is relying solely on Ginger’s incompetence to have any stakes or conflict in the story. Yes there’s her sister and that butler dude, but they could have been more than enough without Ginger’s stupidity. It’s a lot more rewarding and tense building knowing that the hero is going up against their equal or someone greater. But with Ginger? It’s like watching a bodybuilder beat up a disabled person (no offense to anyone). It’s not dramatic... just sad.
- the author is kind of... insulting the audience’s intelligence. In our modern world where technology is increasing everyday, our education is increasing as well to the point that we all have some level of critical thinking skills. We are a product of our times but our stories aren’t keeping up. Blah blah blah, Ginger doesn’t live in our time doesn’t excuse the author (who does live in our time!!!) not treating the audience with intellectual respect.
- Because we’re all more educated, we’re rightfully asking for more from our FLs. And no, not quite “OP”. If you think having some level of education or common sense is a super power, I’m sorry our authors failed you. I remembered seeing this stupid post defending a dumb FL going “I’m sorry I’m not cool, smart, strong, emotionally strong, or have any actual traits. But at least I’m kind!” Is that supposed to be impressive? Being nice is the bare fucking minimum and “nice” is subjective to begin with. What is this? Do we still live in the 1800’s where a woman is expected to be a mother and a nun at the same time? We’re allowed to ask for more.
- Ginger is simply the wrong character to try to relate to the audiences on this site. She’s the frat girl (again no offense) while audiences are the shy girls (seriously no offense just an equation). Vastly different worlds and Ginger has yet to show any real relatability to an a moderately educated audience with intuition. And don’t argue with “American audiences aren’t the targeted audience”. THATS EVEN WORST. HAVE YOU COMPARED KOREAN EDUCATION WITH AMERICAN???? They blow us out of the water!!!! If American audiences consider it laughable, what more Korean?
I have more but this is getting to damn long. Also, I saw someone commenting about a salary woman knowing calculus as “unrealistic”... that’s really sad if you think that. I’m an English major and I know fucking calculus. It’s seriously not that impressive. And remember, it’s Asian education and they’re advanced. I went to school overseas for a year and they were teaching trigonometry and pre-calculus to middle schools when we only start learning that in high school in America. Thanks to that one year, I blew out my peers when I returned to school and got an A in Calculus. And that’s just one year of foundation, what more an entire childhood and teenage years?
Sigh... this shit tires me...