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I was looking at the rams but I couldn’t read them. They were in another language. I knew they got engaged, but I didn’t know he kept up the rues all the way up to the wedding day. That’s kinda assholish. Pore Ian. He deserves so much better.

I have said this before Ig. But Raymond's father was hanged before him, his mother also died. He lived to take revenge. Ian fell in love with him but do u expect him to dump his lifelong purpose because someone loves him? Yh he is selfish but is it wrong to do things that benefit u? He hasn't fallen in love with Ian but when he does he is ready to leave it all for him. How can u expect him to forget his revenge for someone he doesn't even love? If he didn't keep that up until then don't u think he would also have been executed or something. Not anyone can mess with powerful ppl. Idk how u percieved the raws or what but please think from seme's point of view too. Later on he tried so hard to find Ian and when he found out he fainted after crying. If u expect for someone to dump their lifelong revenge for their parents death, for something that's not even love yet, then its ur logic that's assholish.

Lmfao

Which is perfectly fine as an explanation but doesn’t excuse anything. Ian doesn’t have to be collateral damage for some guy’s unresolved daddy issues. It’s so bizarre to even suggest that. We know it’s for the purpose of the plot but just because Raymond “falls in love” eventually doesn’t make any less a terrible person for his actions, only justifies them to himself. If you’re content with that reasoning that’s fine, but if Ian had even a little more self respect and not the trauma attributed to abuse and neglect, I’m sure he would have walked away from the heartache and disrespect. The whole plot relies on two broken people accepting each other

Lol. Who is not respecting Ian? That's what I am saying it's two broken ppl not just one. Raymond told Ian right off the bat that he shouldn't have such feelings for him when they had sex back then. Its painful for Ian cause he likes Raymond not because Raymond is making it difficult for him. And that's what u ppl r misunderstanding. Raymond didn't hurt Ian cause he doesn't even like him yet. It's even more bizarre to suggest someone forgetting his lifelong revenge for something that not even like yet.

No on is disputing that. What they’re complaining about is Ian having to be emotionally harmed because of this. It’s besides the point if Raymond wants to get revenge, we know that’s his goal and Ian clearly played a part in it. What’s annoying is Raymond having full intention to achieve his goal but at the cost and manipulation of Ian’s feelings for him. Even if Raymond isn’t in love with Ian, Raymond knows full well Ian is in love with him. Making his actions cruel because he has this knowledge but obliviously isn’t going to make Ian privy to role in Raymond grand schemes. How is that showing any respect to Ian when Raymond is aware people have only ever used Ian and now he’s doing so as well but now with a conflict of interest as Raymond is more personally intwined with his pawn. And I bring up that they’re two broken people, because Ian is broken enough to have some idea of all of this unconsciously but is fine with all because knows no other way to demand otherwise. Raymond rescued Ian, Ian is completely devoted to his savior even at the emotional toll it has on him. Raymond obviously changes later in but you can’t deny this the arrangement of their relationship and again if were not for the circumstances of Ian’s meek personality and Raymond’s ruthlessness they’d never be together.

Haha, the first thing u said is wrong in itself. Raymond helped Ian that may be for any purpose. It wasn't Raymond's fault that Ian came to like him. Raymond is using Ian for his revenge but it's not like he is doing something bad to Ian. Raymond doesn't harm Ian and if anything helps him paint and overcome his past fears. He may be using him but he is always good to Ian. U say he is cold and ruthless but he has always been gentle towards Ian and that's why Ian came to like him. U r saying it like its Raymond's fault that Ian liked him. That's why I am saying u r not even trying to think of seme's point of view. He hasn't even done anything wrong yet. Lol.

Aahhh. Welp going to mute this now. No sense in “talking” to people who jump on the attack train for no reason. But thanks for the laughs.