Is he gonna break with the old guy cause I want to read the manga but if he end up with hi...

Lounachan July 18, 2020 3:06 pm

Is he gonna break with the old guy cause I want to read the manga but if he end up with him then it's just a big no for me

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    Indii July 18, 2020 4:33 pm

    This manga is deeper than a simple relationship between an old man and a student, you should read it

    blueninja89 July 18, 2020 10:00 pm
    This manga is deeper than a simple relationship between an old man and a student, you should read it Indii

    but it doesnt help it's case that it just feel like grooming, and really pulls on the stereotype that older gay men are predatory.

    Gay fey July 18, 2020 10:17 pm

    He breaks up

    Gay fey July 18, 2020 10:17 pm

    He breaks up
    Thats what happen in the raw version

    Liz July 18, 2020 10:25 pm
    but it doesnt help it's case that it just feel like grooming, and really pulls on the stereotype that older gay men are predatory. blueninja89

    !!!! Exactly

    blueninja89 July 18, 2020 10:35 pm
    !!!! Exactly Liz

    My issue is the author is attempting an actual queer narrative plot than the standard sunshine and butterflies rape to love, or abuse, or age gap, or incest etc. however they’ve down the bare minimum of making the plot believable as not actually portraying the problematic aspects of our MC as actually toxic or harmful, but rather just the growing pains of being a gay man. Our Mc is sooo impressionable and has such internalized homosexuality and repeatedly is self destructive inwardly and outwardly in creating a healthy self worth. Then we have a possible love interest in MR. M who’s an older boy likely emotionally cheating on his boyfriend with HIV, mind you HIV is not in fact a dead sentence in 2020 and hasn’t been for over 2 decades. There’s just so much about this plot is nearly there but you seriously can tell it wasn’t written by a queer man because it lacks so much proper self awareness.

    Liz July 18, 2020 10:44 pm
    My issue is the author is attempting an actual queer narrative plot than the standard sunshine and butterflies rape to love, or abuse, or age gap, or incest etc. however they’ve down the bare minimum of makin... blueninja89

    Definitely!!! Especially considering how the MC feels about BL as well because a lot of it can be extremely fetish-y and uncomfortable for gay men to read but he seems accepting of it. (although I'm not discounting the fact that queer man defo do read BL because they're just so starved for representation)

    not gay July 19, 2020 1:45 am
    Definitely!!! Especially considering how the MC feels about BL as well because a lot of it can be extremely fetish-y and uncomfortable for gay men to read but he seems accepting of it. (although I'm not discoun... Liz

    Agreeing with both of you!! As a bi person all this manga has done is put a super bad taste in my mouth (the grooming, the subtle biphobia, the two girls who clearly fetishize gay men, the suicide thing which imo happened just for shock value....)

    Liz July 19, 2020 2:55 am
    Agreeing with both of you!! As a bi person all this manga has done is put a super bad taste in my mouth (the grooming, the subtle biphobia, the two girls who clearly fetishize gay men, the suicide thing which i... not gay

    I agree with everything but confused about biphobia? Where do u see that?

    Liz July 19, 2020 2:56 am
    Agreeing with both of you!! As a bi person all this manga has done is put a super bad taste in my mouth (the grooming, the subtle biphobia, the two girls who clearly fetishize gay men, the suicide thing which i... not gay

    Also I don't think the suicide thing was j shock value because it definitely seemed to build up to something like that (like his detoriating mental state)

    not gay July 19, 2020 3:09 am
    I agree with everything but confused about biphobia? Where do u see that? Liz

    just throughout the manga its kinda implied that you can be either attracted to the same gender or the opposite and never both,, maybe its because the story revolves around homosexuals but masaki's analogy (the bat thing) in particular puts me off a bit

    Liz July 19, 2020 3:22 am
    just throughout the manga its kinda implied that you can be either attracted to the same gender or the opposite and never both,, maybe its because the story revolves around homosexuals but masaki's analogy (the... not gay

    Idk about the bat thing, but I think in general it's not biphobia but just a gay boy who feels alienated from the heteronormative society

    not gay July 19, 2020 3:43 am
    Idk about the bat thing, but I think in general it's not biphobia but just a gay boy who feels alienated from the heteronormative society Liz

    yes i understand what you mean, i think you're right about it too.