Ugh..

Nobody said Harukawa's actions were right-- I don't even find comments defending his actions.

You're saying don't judge the ex but you're putting words into our mouths saying we likely never had to experience it. BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DID, I for one did, so you too do not have the right to tell us otherwise.

The thing is, fear, anxiety, backlash, it's normal we get it. He (the ex) was immature-- BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S OKAY. So we just go "oh he's young and scared, so it's okay that he inflicted PTSD on matsuri"? That's not how it works.

Young or not, he NEEDS to know that his actions brought negative consequences, and he needs closure with Matsukawa to heal, else, it will forever retain a negative memory on both parties.

Realistic, but it's not what you'd brush of and say "It's okay". It's not, this kind of adandonment messes you up.

...I specifically said: "...of a situation you have MOST LIKELY never had to experience." Note the CAPS. And as a bi woman, who was literally kicked out of my home on Christmas when I came out, and faced YEARS of being bullied and abused, I absolutely have the right to comment. So hypocritical and insulting of you to assume my LGBTQ status and tell me I have no right to comment. I am part of that "US", so check yourself.
I also did not say that the ex shouldn't have regrets or to understand what he did. I can guarantee he does. Its not like walking away from someone you like is a fun activity. What is wrong, is all the mean wishes readers are leaving. He is most likely tortured enough. He can't be himself, he has to hide his sexuality, he had to abandon the guy he liked because of the negativity he received for being gay.
Instead of the mean wishes towards him, a VICTIM, the mean comments should be focused on those who caused him to feel he had to behave that way. It should be focused on the f'ed up society we live in that people can't love who they love. There are no comments about wishing for them to have closure, which would be good for both of them. The comments are focused on wishing more negativity and punishment on the ex, which is so wrong. Or what, would you feel better if he ignored his abusive classmates, came out, continued dating Matsuri and possibly ended up killing himself? Heres some facts for you: LGBTQ youth seriously contemplate suicide at almost three times the rate of heterosexual youth and LGBTQ youth are almost five times as likely to have attempted suicide compared to heterosexual youth.
I have not read any negative comments about Harukawa's behavior, which is my point. He did the same thing as the ex, yet ya'll are happy that he was chased after and gets a happy ending. Its hypocritical and lacks empathy. Matsuri even seems to acknowledge why he was 'abandoned'. Stop blaming victims.

I can't even begin to express how close mided you are.

You say you are part? THEN ACT LIKE IT. Victim blaming is slandering one party that was a clear victim-- in this case you seriously don't think the ex didn't do anything wrong? Then what about Matsuri who was left in the dust with no closure? Forgive and forget 'cuz he has no choice but to understand?

I don't hate the ex nor am I slandering him, and I'm not stopping you from commenting lmfao, I NEVER SAID THAT. I said that you have no right to put words into our mouth and assume things. Gods, you really should stop putting words into other people's mouths, it's not an effective arguement.

I can epathize on what happened to you, really. It's not easy being a queer, but I'm not seeing you point on where the fuck did I ever demean queer people? You stating "facts" on what LGBT people experience is more insulting for someone like me who actually tried doing so. Stop blindly "educating" people when you don't even understand the message.

I'm not blaming him, I'M CALLING HIM OUT ON HIS BAD DECISION. That's different. If he really did experience what you "think" based on your experience (all the scenarios you labelled wasn't even shown or a known fact IN THE MANGA), then that really is unfortunate-- but nonetheless, he handled it poorly and hurt someone and gave themselves both traumas.

THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT OKAY. IT SHOULDN'T BE LEFT AS IS AND IT NEEDS CLOSURE.

Just 'cuz you're a victim doesn't mean you don't need to correct and try to fix things.

With all the unfortunate shit you've experienced, YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT.

And that's what I want to happen to Matsuri and his ex. CLOSURE. THAT IS NOT victim blaming. If the ex exhibits the same mindset you give on his actions, it's nothing but pride and blame pushing. The ex was a victim of consequences, while Matsuri was a victim of his ex's abandonment-- and both need to come in peace with what happened to HEAL.

Which you know SHOULD be the PRIORITY for people who experienced jackshit.

And I'm not even saying that I'm happy the two main characters got together and got a happy ending. I couldn't care less if they end up together or not, since they got their closure. That's what maters.

Rather, I even said that I will only mark this a happy end if Matsuri gets his closure.

So there you go again, putting words onto people's mouths.

I'm not angry or tryna negate everything say tho. It's my two cents on the situation and how I think it should be dealt with-- irl or fiction.

Hope you're doing okay now, as I am. See you around.

Please knock this shit the fuck off. The drama is unbelievably annoying when you’re trying to glance through for raws.You’re young, and a kid. Haven’t been through shit yet to be judging. Just take a breath.

I'm not understanding your response? I'm an adult who's trying to have a civilized discussion.

And I've been through plenty, thank you. So maybe take a look at yourself and stop being a hypocrite on "judging".

Have a nice day, and maybe take the time to breathe, yourself.

funny how you're the one doing the real judging in this discussion

I can't begin to express how immature you are and honestly don't have to as your posts speak for themselves. It's obvious you have been hurt and continue to carry around your trauma. But blaming someone who is a victim themselves is not how you get over it. I really hope that you figure that out and can come to terms with your demons sometime soon. Best of luck.

It's either you didn't read the response, or actually didn't understand it.

I'd like you to pry apart where exactly I claimed that everything was the ex's fault? And there you go again putting words onto people's mouths.

But nevermind, as it seems that no matter how civilized I try to get things across, it seems to be of no use.

To each his own-- I will stand where I am now. I, and the people who brought me back knows that I am fine now. Thanks, but I don't need your disrespectful and sarcastic wish of luck.

That was an infuriating turn of things. You do you, so I'm out.

Y'all need to stop projecting so hard on fictional characters.

But adding to, being part of an oppressed group is not an excuse to be a shitty person, just fyi. So, people can comment on shitty actions. Victim complex is not a pretty trait.

lmao wtf are u talking about. none of what youre tying to get across was actually said nor is happening.

stop trying too hard hun. youre making yourself look dumb.

Wow so if get shit on by life, i can fuck other people up now?

Nice logic there bigot.

Not projecting, simply showing both sides of the situation, applying empathy and hoping it results in others not being this judgmental to real life persons in a similar situation. The ex wasn't a shitty person. He was, again, a KID who got scared and chose to hide who he was. He didn't bully Matsuri, he didn't talk bad about him, he simply removed himself from it. That isn't a 'shitty person' or 'shitty actions', its self protective behavior.

He did what was best for him, yes.
He hurt other people, that's why his actions are shitty.
he can do whatever he needs to do and live his best life but people gonna call out shitty behavior that affected other negatively.
No one here is real, wtf are you on? And if someone did this maybe they should reflect on their actions instead of shielding on being oppressed and a victim lol. That's how you grow up, owning to your shit.

I don't feel explaining stuff is gonna make any difference to you and it's a yaoi manga, so this is it from me.

I'll ask that question back to you (is it good shit?), or is it that you lack reading comprehension? Calling out and wishing someone pain are two opposite things and not what someone who is grown would do. Someone who is a codependent child holding onto their trauma like a security blanket on the other hand...
You're right though, it isn't going to make a difference to me because your understanding of right and wrong and what growing up is, is clearly limited. Not interested in having a discussion with someone who plays the vengeful victim. Good luck with that whole growing up bit.

Not everyone is going to be in a right state of mind to own up to anything, especially if they’re kids and in a society where LGBT isn’t accepted.

Unfortunately this is reality, which is why OP mentioned about real life. A lot of us here are fortunate enough to never experience what others in similar situations to these characters are going through. So we can’t just push our ideologies onto situations like this.

In our eyes, yes, the ex should reflect on their actions. But we need to consider their position as well. You guys are only looking at it from one perspective.

Indeed. Just because u are tough enough to deal shit doesn't mean others can do it too or also force themselves to do it too. We all had shits in life and we had weaknesses, people have ways dealing those and just think of growing up in a society where LGBTQ+ we're still not fully granted acceptance and respect was a real horror. Think of how scared and traumatized was he of how the world will change just by one thing that he's gay.