Y'know....

CuddleQuill July 30, 2020 8:42 pm

While I absolutely adore this couple and Hozumi is super cute, I just know that if we were reading a shoujo manga that practically everyone in the comments would be saying Hozumi is such a crybaby (in a bad way) and that "she" needs to suck it up. And to stop being so clingy, of course.

I see that so often as I switch between yaoi and shoujo manga. I'm not sure everyone else can see the same, and I'm not saying that everyone should. But there is clearly a double standard in a lot of comment sections going between those two genres.

Responses
    Don'twanna July 31, 2020 8:00 pm

    I completely agree

    Ahiva August 1, 2020 12:11 pm

    Usually when I start reading the comments (whatever the genre) I end up thinking that the world is in big trouble.

    KamiTama August 1, 2020 11:30 pm

    Well I commented that this character tends to cry way too much(even during sex scenes he is crying) and I got 61 dislikes lmao. So I guess 61 people like yaoi where ukes are forever crying and clingy.

    Meowster August 4, 2020 9:17 am

    This is so interesting, cuz I notice this too! It’s obviously due to stereotypical expectations of both male and females.

    Females are seen as ‘emotional and weak’ by men, while I’m the post-4th wave feminism, women are expected to be strong and to keep emotions inside in order to be perceived as ‘strong and independent’.

    Males on the other hand, are intrinsically seen as strong, so possibly seeing a more sensitive male is something that is more accepted/new/unique, especially since the audience of this manga is female-oriented.

    Males Characters don’t get the backlash as much for being seen as emotional (to females) because we can’t relate to them as much, while in Female Characters, we see ourselves in them too much. We expect more from female characters rather than male characters due to their gender and societal expectations of what a strong female is.

    CuddleQuill August 4, 2020 5:53 pm
    This is so interesting, cuz I notice this too! It’s obviously due to stereotypical expectations of both male and females. Females are seen as ‘emotional and weak’ by men, while I’m the post-4th wave fem... Meowster

    I agree. However, people should be allowed to be people. Not every male/female has to be to strong. Society should let them be weak and have moments of insecurities and anxieties—allow them to be human in expressing their internal emotional conflict/pain. That's why I don't expect or want every single female lead in every manga/webtoon to be mentally and or emotionally strong throughout the story. It's just not realistic. It is awesome to see manga/webtoons with female leads that are that way and also physically strong (that had grown up to be like that), but I'm not wanting to see that in everything I read. I can't even look at comment sections of most shoujo or webtoons with a female MC without seeing half of the comments complaining that the lead isn't "this way" or "that way." If everyone was the same, what would be the fun in that?

    Anyway, sorry for the long reply. I wasn't ranting at you, just further expressing my point of view on this topic.