hmm

Darkenthat August 13, 2020 3:21 pm

I don't like how they constantly call that transgender woman a man,, it just doesn't sit right with me so I dropped this

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    Ahiva August 13, 2020 3:37 pm

    I totally understand, but I guess that if they treated that character as a woman it wouldn't sit well with all the yaoi thing.
    It's probably mandatory to highlight the male part because of the manga's genre.

    Darkenthat August 13, 2020 4:08 pm
    I totally understand, but I guess that if they treated that character as a woman it wouldn't sit well with all the yaoi thing.It's probably mandatory to highlight the male part because of the manga's genre. Ahiva

    then don't use trans people then?? it's that easy to not write a story where a trans woman gets her feelings invalidated.. if it's yaoi, don't include a woman

    Deee August 13, 2020 4:51 pm

    In the first volume Rei identified as a boy and transvestite. Do they identify as transgender?

    BUBBA-Manga August 13, 2020 5:58 pm

    I don’t think the character is technically transgender but a transvestite. They have set him up as a boy who likes to dress as a girl but not surgically changing anything (which I think of when I think transgender....someone changing gender). They do that a lot in yaoi. Characters who like to dress feminine but want to stay male.

    Ahiva August 13, 2020 6:19 pm
    I don’t think the character is technically transgender but a transvestite. They have set him up as a boy who likes to dress as a girl but not surgically changing anything (which I think of when I think transg... BUBBA-Manga

    But if the person identifies as the sex they weren't born with they are already considered transgender and people should be respectful and treat them the way they want to be treated.
    Maybe on the first chapters "he" was a travenstite (I don't remember), but right now "she" doesn't think the boy would love her because he is gay. So right now she is a woman.
    Maybe (I don't know) in Japan they have yet to accept transgender people. I don't really know a lot about their current culture, but in mangas it seems as if they have a way to go, so this might be depicting Japan 2012's reality.

    Kaktus August 13, 2020 7:51 pm

    I´m not sure what that person is or want but if the person themself don´t say anything about it it is stupid to find it wrong
    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
    even I don't identify myself as a woman but I give a shit about "he she it" ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
    don't make a unnecessary drama
    only if the person in question don't like it is it a bad thing

    Deee August 13, 2020 8:19 pm
    But if the person identifies as the sex they weren't born with they are already considered transgender and people should be respectful and treat them the way they want to be treated.Maybe on the first chapters ... Ahiva

    In the first chapters Rei said he was a boy and was a transvestite. I assume Rei was worries because he dresses as a girl and Yamada is gay, so maybe because he likes men he might not be attracted to that. It’s never actually confirmed that Rei is transgender. You are assuming their sex/identity based on how they dress. So in theory, aren’t you just as bad? If you don’t know what they identify as use they/them. Smh. You’re the one who is deciding Rei is a ‘she my forgetting they could just not be gender conforming.

    Kaktus August 13, 2020 9:15 pm
    In the first chapters Rei said he was a boy and was a transvestite. I assume Rei was worries because he dresses as a girl and Yamada is gay, so maybe because he likes men he might not be attracted to that. It�... Deee

    I totally agree to that

    BabybluePam August 14, 2020 12:22 am

    Where in the world did rei say that he identified as a girl? You're assuming shit. Just cause he likes to dress as a woman does not mean that he wants to completely change his gender...

    Ahiva August 14, 2020 1:21 am
    In the first chapters Rei said he was a boy and was a transvestite. I assume Rei was worries because he dresses as a girl and Yamada is gay, so maybe because he likes men he might not be attracted to that. It�... Deee

    I just re-read it and the one who says that Rei is a boy is Wataru, Rei never said that.
    And seeing Rei entering a female bathroom says a lot of what she identifies as.
    Not that I care though, I am not the one complaining, I just wanted to say my opinion.

    Darkenthat August 14, 2020 3:00 am
    Where in the world did rei say that he identified as a girl? You're assuming shit. Just cause he likes to dress as a woman does not mean that he wants to completely change his gender... BabybluePam

    her* did you even read the manga?? she never once calls herself a boy and even tries to correct her friends nicely.. she calls herself "a woman at heart" whenever someone tries to say she's a boy

    angel1 August 14, 2020 3:57 am

    considering homosexuality and the LGBT community is almost completely nonexistent in Japan, Rei is considered a male (who crossdresses). We are not here to inject our personal beliefs or preferences onto the story, we are here to enjoy a good story written by a good author who lives in a community where gender identity issues are not as convoluted as they are elsewhere in the world. especially considering these are fictional characters who do not actually exist.

    Darkenthat August 14, 2020 4:15 am
    considering homosexuality and the LGBT community is almost completely nonexistent in Japan, Rei is considered a male (who crossdresses). We are not here to inject our personal beliefs or preferences onto the st... angel1

    what the fuck... are you seriously implying that transgender and gay people don't exist in Japan? Yes, they are fictional however these are real life issues that the author can educate themselves on before writing it.. it's seriously offensive

    Deee August 14, 2020 10:40 am
    I just re-read it and the one who says that Rei is a boy is Wataru, Rei never said that.And seeing Rei entering a female bathroom says a lot of what she identifies as.Not that I care though, I am not the one co... Ahiva

    Again. THEY never said THEY were a girl. You are assuming gender identity.

    Deee August 14, 2020 10:42 am
    what the fuck... are you seriously implying that transgender and gay people don't exist in Japan? Yes, they are fictional however these are real life issues that the author can educate themselves on before writ... Darkenthat

    Lol they aren’t denying the existence of LGBT people in Japan. They are saying that the LGBT community is not very big, so often people who are trans end up labeled as tranvestites, therefore that is what Rei is identified as in the story and it’s never confirmed they are transgender.

    Darkenthat August 14, 2020 10:46 am
    Lol they aren’t denying the existence of LGBT people in Japan. They are saying that the LGBT community is not very big, so often people who are trans end up labeled as tranvestites, therefore that is what Rei... Deee

    but it is very big?? have you seen Japan's population, that comment is giving me homophobic vibes.. rei is trangender, but just doesn't say it, she implies it because her feelings keep getting invalidated by her friends.

    Deee August 14, 2020 4:52 pm
    but it is very big?? have you seen Japan's population, that comment is giving me homophobic vibes.. rei is trangender, but just doesn't say it, she implies it because her feelings keep getting invalidated by he... Darkenthat

    The fact that they haven’t said it and you are assuming her gender identity by how they act/what they wear is what’s wrong! If you don’t know pronouns and want to be respectful your best bet is they/them. Check yourself.

    Kaktus August 14, 2020 6:40 pm

    to sum it up we don't know exactly what the person is
    because if we knew for sure we wouldn't be fucking arguing about it
    for me if the person in question is not angry or says something about it themselves it is not an issue
    everything else is useless drama ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    BabybluePam August 14, 2020 8:11 pm
    to sum it up we don't know exactly what the person is because if we knew for sure we wouldn't be fucking arguing about it for me if the person in question is not angry or says something about it themselves it i... Kaktus

    Yup same. And it's been soo long that this story was updated so I really don't remember much... And he doesn't speak on it so idk..