This relationship is not toxic, please. Do you even know the meaning of toxic? They are just having issues in their relationship like a normal couple and you say it is toxic. Which relationship doesn’t have its own fair share of troubles? If you want to know toxic relationships, I could tell you the sort of manga to read but this one definitely IS NOT toxic.
You don’t think this is toxic? And with a child? Lmao I mean sure people have things like this that go on but I wouldn’t say it’s healthy. Calm tf down. You can have your opinion and I can have mine. Our definition of a normal relationship is obviously very different. I’ve read plenty of more toxic couples in others mangas, doesn’t mean I don’t think this one still is. I’ll pass on your offer for recommendations but thanks hun.
it's not toxic it's drama
Thank you. That person needs to use a dictionary. Every other thing they said was correct but toxic?! Haha!
No one’s fighting with you. Yes, it’s your choice to have an opinion but someone can also point out the falsity of that opinion. You’re free to pass on my recommendation because I can’t force you to learn, but I can only suggest that you do.
Have fun.
Imma steal that line cause whew that’s a good one keke- anyways thanks. (UgH that sounds bad but it’s for a good cause phfff) also calm queen, king or whatever
Lol. Please, don’t get me into any more trouble. I’m trying to get out of this situation as peacefully as I can. I should have just minded my business
PHHUFYDYv I’m ded honestly me too someone just said I was verbally harassing them PHfff the most I said was that they were being ignorant tf ┗( T﹏T )┛ good luck haha
Okay maybe a lil more than that keke but at most it was a argument not a CrIme gEez
Lmaooo! I have been blocked quite a few times here for trying to correct people and it’s funny how they rush to throw insults but can never condone any.
It's not OP's problem you are ignorant. You are calling rape some issues and normal? For real?
Like you are preaching that someone should learn what toxic relationship is ... When you don't understand even an idea of toxicity at all. Ridiculous.
Lol. You are the ridiculous one. What makes their relationship toxic? I have asked them to check for the meaning in a dictionary and I would extend the same grace to you.
So because they had a quarrel over an issue like every normal couple, that makes the relationship toxic? You must think relationships are all about rainbows and daisies.
Oof sis or whatever I did not read your first comment whewwww um cause I like you don’t take it wrong but toxicity is different for the situation, although at its core it’s the same the way to grows and spreads is different. Idk saying that their relationship isn’t toxic, when the guy just raped the other isn’t correct.
Do you understand what is rape? Because I see the concept is foreign for you. We are talking about rape=no consent. It's not even the first time. In some countries you are sentenced for life because of rape. And you are still arguing it's normal relationship?
So what? The toxicity has to be on the level of Killing Stalking?
Seriously read some psychological articles about toxicity in relationships. Because seriously we don't even have to have rape in relationship... To consider it toxic. And I seriously recommend that because with such pov, you can hurt someone or be taken advantage of.
No. I did agree with the fact the their relationship started out as rape. I personally almost dropped it cos of that. But, he did realize he was wrong and stopped trying to force himself on him before and Mr. Naruse gave him consent to touch him.
Now, they saying their overall relationship is toxic, I think not because Asumi has done all he can to make up for what he did. He takes care of both he and his kid and even defended him a lot. Saying their relationship is toxic because they had that quarrel in my opinion is definitely not true. They have gotten past the rape incident and I would never justify it, but a couple having a normal fight because the seme got mad at him for drinking with the other gay guy is not what I would call toxic.
If you read my earlier comment, you would notice I did not argue with most of the points she made about the rape and them being annoying because I agreed with her but saying it’s toxic because they can move after that quarrel with just an apology is what I do not agree with. I personally want him to give him the silent treatment cos that fight needs to be dragged out but Asumi is not the kind that would ignore Naruse for so long and things like that are normal in a relationship when both partners love each other too much to fight for long. I can’t call them toxic for being tolerant.
Do you get my point now?
Did you even read the newest chapter...
And rape is something unforgivable.
I NEVER consented to rape in this story. It’s funny because most yaois always start out with rape and I have never for once supported it. I intentionally stay away from some stories with rape in them as well. I almost dropped this story when he kept sexually assaulting him but I decided to continue reading because I have watched the anime before. I did not object to that person’s statement about the rape because they were absolutely right.
What I disputed was the fact that they considered the relationship toxic because they felt Mr. Naruse is going to apologize to Asumi for whatever happened and the relationship would go on from there with no issues and I disagreed with that fact.
That being said, toxic simply means “extremely harsh, malicious, or harmful” and a toxic relationship in general simply means; “a relationship characterized by behaviors on the part of the toxic partner that are emotionally and, not infrequently, physically damaging to their partner.“ which I do not see happening in this relationship. Asumi has been very supportive, loyal, defensive and very caring of not only Mr. Naruse but also his child. He has also made him very happy ever since his marriage and divorce and even his friend, Mr. You, testified to that. Now, them not fighting for too long and coming back together after a simple apology is to be expected, especially when Asumi can’t bear to be away from Mr. Naruse for so long.
Me telling you to use a dictionary is for this reason because Killing Stalking is not the only yardstick for a toxic relationship. There are relationships where the uke gets raped and everyone moves on like nothing happened but not in this story. Asumi apologized for the rape and did not touch Mr. Naruse for the longest time without his consent. He has also tried his best to make up for his earlier mishaps, which is not something we see happening in most of these stories we read.
Again, I did not address the rape as normal. I talked about the fight they had in this latest chapter.
I hope this would be the last time you try to use derogatory words to address me and be civil about this because I can also give back just as good as I get, you know.
Yes, rape is unforgivable in my own opinion; but Mr. Naruse forgave him for that, which is not uncommon in yaoi stories. We have a million and one mangas and webtoons which started out with rape and the rapists only get a slap on the wrist for it and sometimes they even get away with it. It’s something we all have to deal with because it’s fiction and for some of them that I cannot deal with, I just drop them and move on.
Of course, I can’t apply the same rules to the real world but this is fiction and we just learn to deal with it and not apply it to our daily lives.
I’m not a fan of what happened but I also realize this is FICTION people. Was the rape wrong? Well duh rape is always wrong. Are both characters being annoying? Yes. Is he probably just going to apologize and they’re back to normal? Likely. Is that also wrong? Yes. Is this relationship toxic af? Yes. Will I still read this? You bet.