Oh yes and let’s not forget that the ONLY BLACK PERSON we saw in this manga (which is set in fucking New York) is a villain in the story. So props to her. I’m now going to stop crying and remember that there are good people out there and that the world isn’t usually this cruel. But wow. Props to this author for making the worst thing I’ve been unfortunate enough to read.
I’ve calmed down and shouldn’t have called her names, but honestly? Deserved
who is the black villain? The porn guy who also works as an escort?
I wouldn’t call him black or even mixed since the authors goal seemed to be to only make him “tan” the reporter is the person I was referring to.
Thank you for writing all of this. I was wavering between reading this or not, but now I know that I should stay the hell away from it.
You're not alone. This shit bothered me for like 6 months. I hate her guts too. None of it makes any sense. Legit 0 of it makes sense.
If u don’t like it, don’t read it. and tf u mean with *she took*? Just shut.
lol shut up people are allowed to have negative opinions. you just shut. And yes the author made narrative decisions which were absolute garbage. just cuz yall love swimming around in garbage doesn't mean other people can't call it out. imagine being such a dumbass
I never said that its bad to have a negative opinion. Its just the way she/he put it.
You put it super harshly and you very much invalidated her opinion, which actually has some merit.
WOW takes some extreme steps to make sure that everything in Ed's life tumbles down one after the next and a lot of people think that's realistic, but it's not. In reality, Ed's downward spiral could have been stopped every step of the way. Like for a quick summary – starting with the debt: hospitals dont require you to pay beforehand for services and medical debt doesn't accrue interest so there's no reason to take a loan out on it. Ok you took out the loan, if it's accruing interest so quickly that it's impossible to pay, you just don't pay. Plenty of people default on loans. Ok you feel like you have to pay the loan and decide to do porno – make sure you know what you're getting yourself into and have calculated that the money made from porno will actually help pay off the loan (in this instance, it wasn't enough, he would have had to do like 300 pornos). Also know that you can end up like Mia Khalifa. Okay you ended up like Mia Khalifa, forget the fucking loan (you can't be forced to pay anything if you don't have enough income to live off of). Okay you decided to prostitute yourself – know something about the clients before you show up at their homes for a house-call. They could be a serial killer for god's sake. Ok Chang offers to write off the debt. Fucking take it. Or say you'll take it, that you're going home now and will talk later. Never contact him again. OR, at the very least, don't assault him. Ok you got raped and still have debt – there's no reason your boyfriend has to quit the passion he's spent 10 years of his life on just because you or someone else (author) thinks it's immoral and can't exist with a happily ever after.
So – she's okay to put it how she did. She was upset. The author really reached for it with this whole plot. It doesn't reflect how adults think or work and it actually does a lot of harm because a lot of people reading this don't even have credit cards or know the first thing about any kind of debt / definitely know nothing about porn or prostitution etcetc, but think this is so real and deep. It's a disservice.
Tldr: You were kind of mean about it and she had a point.
First of all, yeah i do admit i was kind of harsh. I've looked through this comment section and she/he was everywhere... spreading a negative aura. Ofc its her opinion but we get it already.
And yeah ofc i get what u mean. But it is how it is.
Don’t waste your energy on complaining how it could’ve gone, thats what im sayin.
The author took a lot of time and effort to do all of this, and then there are people who complain about stuff that no one cares.
Let’s stop this convo i think it’s tiring for us both to talk about this and i think we both know that this ain’t leading no where. Again i apologize if i was harsh in the beginning. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ have a nice day/night
I dont think its your place to say if someone is allowed to share their negative opinion wherever they want. The same goes for how she or I use my energy. The only person who doesn't seem to want to engage is you so you can handle that by not getting involved, instead of lashing out.
Cheers.
Pog
You're right! WOW makes no sense for a manhwa based in America. In some states Ed wouldn't be responsible for his grandfather's medical costs. In other states,, as a next of kin he'll receive the debt but there are payment plans with fixed or no interest rates.
If we think about this logically, then we wouldn't have a useless plot. When his grandfather first got sick someone from the hospital's billing department would've reached out and let him know his options. There would be no reason for his grandfather to borrow from Chang. No reason for porn or prostitution.
Glen's character was cheated. He had a good idea in mixing porn and art, but i think you're right this manhwa reflects the author's view on the porn industry.
She could've done something amazing if she explored Mcqueen's vision, instead she gave us a subpar plot.
Overrated Manhwa! Lately, there's been too much hype surrounding these whack ass manhwas. I guess that's why I don't waste my money on it.
You say I’m “spreading negativity” or whatever but man I’m going to call out bs where I see it. You aren’t going to stop me from speaking out against what I believe to be injustice because it kills your vibe. Also as far as wasting my time goes, just in this very comment thread someone decided not to read This because of something I said, so just for that I haven’t wasted my time but even without it hopefully this at least makes some people think twice.
Replied to the wrong person :(
Wait no I didn’t lmfao
Kekekke. I also find it funny that Ed's final debt was somewhere under half a million dollars (its for his treatment after his accident btw). Because we all know that a regular hospital stay of around 2 or 3 weeks is around $450,000....
Dang! I really forgot about this manhwa because I really can't get the story straight. Either way you're right! Plot makes no sense.
He had options. I guess this author didn't do her research.
Another thing that irritated me was everyone's reaction to Glen being exposed. Most people wouldn't give a shit and it definitely wouldn't be anything to be embarrassed about. We're a society that made Kim Kardashian famous from porn. Why would we care about Glen?
Exactlyyyyyy that’s what posed me off so much. She wanted her characters to hate and shame the people working in porn and I was just like??? No one cares??? Like no one at all? The dude from rocky worked in porn before he got famous and no one gives a fuck
She’s sadistic. She literally did everything to destroy her main character who had already suffered so much, was so pure and kind, and did not deserve that. What did he (and us) get out of this story? She took his family, she took the only person that ever showed him love, she took his only support who he considered a brother and made him mentally and physically abuse him and then if that wasn’t enough rape him. She took his dreams and not only crushed them, but then told him he wasn’t allowed to have dreams anymore and that he’s going to settle for the rest of his life. She took the porn industry and made it ruin him. She made him into an unwilling prostitute and a criminal. She took his job, his friends, his coworkers, his perfect boyfriend, his self confidence and self respect. Sure he has a boyfriend now But that man is ruined on the inside. He thinks he is nothing and thinks he deserves nothing which is what I think she feels about her characters. I’m so angry and hurt for a character I’ve never met and the worst part is she made him so real. She told the story so well. For what? To romanticize rape? To destroy someone in front of our very eyes? To tell us porn is bad and that everyone in it is fucked up in someway and ends up being a prostitute? I hate her man. I hate the author so much I can’t contain it.