Don't like don't read. So simple and yet...

Kyuu September 9, 2020 3:14 pm

Don't like don't read.
So simple and yet...

Responses
    zielona September 11, 2020 6:37 pm

    Its actually not. Media, like yaoi, doesnt exist on an island. It's influenced by and influences society and vice versa. Therefore its crucial people speak up about what they like and what they dont. If you dont like reading the criticism, "just dont read it" ;)

    Kyuu September 12, 2020 9:17 am
    Its actually not. Media, like yaoi, doesnt exist on an island. It's influenced by and influences society and vice versa. Therefore its crucial people speak up about what they like and what they dont. If you don... zielona

    You really came all the way to idk what I age to post this? You must think it's a zinger.
    It's not.

    Your criticism is not needed.
    Some sort of understanding of how a story is not reality might be a better use of your time. Since, you know, this is a whole other universe in which this is not even a person but a whole other being whose sole purpose is to provide sex. Applying the rules of a human to something that is not just to sound woke is honestly not smart.

    Just enjoy the story for what it is or leave if you don't and let others enjoy.

    The problem is not that you can't critique, you're not commenting on anything. You don't like rape? Wow awesome, no one does irl, or when it's actually portrayed as rape in a story. But in this story sex is a whole other issue, so, idk it's just coming here to blab about rape cause you have to, cause you can't not stay quiet even if the comment doesn't fit.
    Cause you have to bring down everyone else that's enjoying the story, even tho they are the ones that can see and differentiate reality from fiction and that world from ours.

    And if your answer to this is 'rape bad' yeah again, no duh.
    - This is a whole other universe and none are human.
    - rape was definitely not portrayed in a positive light in this story.

    zielona September 12, 2020 9:01 pm

    But there is rapists irl? So. Some ppl DO enjoy it?
    Also, from the rape-criticisers' point of view, apologetics like you bring down the mood as well. Thats not an argument not to critique. Same way it isnt one to point out that fiction isnt reality, bcs like i said initially- both influences one another.
    If the characters portrayed are human or not, doesnt change much either, bcs even if we would argue that it only matters what they think, in their own universe geumso's rape was still depicted as something bad, so i dont really know where u were going with this? However thats not a logically sound argument anyway, so the focus remains: while its a worl of fiction, rape is very real and portraying it in any way causes certain connotations in readers. And i am not even getting started on what a sad overused trope it is in yaoi.

    zielona September 12, 2020 9:05 pm

    Also also i didnt make up the "no (thing) is an island" argument. To argue against that is a common fallacy in philosophy. So really it actually was quite a zinger :3

    Kyuu September 12, 2020 11:28 pm
    But there is rapists irl? So. Some ppl DO enjoy it? Also, from the rape-criticisers' point of view, apologetics like you bring down the mood as well. Thats not an argument not to critique. Same way it isnt one ... zielona

    I meant your 'don't like don't read' stuff as the zinger. The other thing is just you reading something from school and knowing it's smart and trying to apply it here. Or you read it on some other comment and now you spam it everywhere idk.

    There's rapists irl? Yes? So?
    your answer was honestly 'rape bad' I told you to not even try to answer with that.
    You didn't get that the rape here was depicted as bad as one of my arguments either, cause you're throwing it at me. Yeah, that's a point as to why rape here is completely diferent than when it its used as trope. Please read an argument before trying to counter.

    Reapers are sinners, maybe he was a child molestor what about that then?
    I can throw theoreticals too.
    In terms of story he is not human, he was made for sex to make up for his sins. He is a sinner. We don't know his sins as readers, so maybe let's wait to see where this is going.

    in reality he's a cartoon. He he no feelings, don't project to a cartoon, that's bad for you cause then you can't even read nuances in stories.