Consent Issues

BeeLame September 13, 2020 6:19 am

Ugh this just frustrates me. I hate this shittttttt so much. I see lovely artwork, what looks like a good plot, and probably will be good, with good characters and shit but I'm always just icked out by sexual consent issues. Idk why I don't see comments on it every where but like... It's hard for me to ship someone who tells their trembling and crying SO who clearly is too scared and doesn't want to have sex that it's their duty to and they better make up their mind because they can't stop after they start. Yes you fucking can. You can stop at anytime. Consent can be taken back. Consent doesn't apply to every single action. And then immediately when the ML comes home he's pissed off that the wife he barely knows is scared? Does he not have ears to hear the rumors? Does he not remember how she was also very terrified back then? Does he not have an observational skills? Like come on. I really don't appreciate when the main couples are like that. It just feels so wrong to want them to be together.

I know I'm going to get hate for speaking up about this, I always do when I speak up about stuff like this. But like I honestly cannot in goodwill keep my mouth shut. I wish this wasn't normalized in romance fiction but it sadly is, everywhere. It makes my skin crawl. I understand that situations like this, and worse, happen in life but for it to be the coupling we're rooting for? Honestly this isn't really consensual. I don't consider it full on rape because she did say "yes" but it was obviously forced out of fear. But it was still bad. Shouldn't be romanticized at all. Imagine if that was you, or your sister, or your best friend. Could you honestly want them together with someone who fucked them even though it was obvious they didn't want to follow through with it? No.

Responses
    Eduximon September 13, 2020 8:52 pm

    Say it louder for the people in the back. I feel really bad for the female character already...poor girl

    Love September 14, 2020 10:30 pm

    i know where you are coming from but...

    ch1 he asked if she was willing or if he should go. she clearly said he should stay. it was her choice. and while doing the deed she didn't say otherwise. she was to scared of her father and he could think she was scared of her first time (you would not know)

    and how the hell would he know about some rumors. he was a commoner with probably no noble conections to hear them. and it looks like her father lets her be healed after every beating. so no evidence present. and as she is a timid one she either doesn't attent noble gatherings and if she does she probably is talking to no one. so just how would he know?! she is so timid and unvisible that nobles are uninterested in talking about her or something

    and by the looks of it they didn't do it.he said they haven't had their first night jet. so i think she fainted and he stoped.

    and you have to take into account that it is just his way of speaking. i feel like he is a cinnamon roll that would have stoped even if he said otherwise.
    just his embarrassment speaking

    just my opinion but i love him already. he just hast to watch how he talks. and it just looks worse bc she is a scardy cat. (just imagen a strong female lead talking back at him and the situation would probably turn in funny bickering. he looks scarrier bc our FL is weak)

    but i read a lot of mangas and novels to know that shitty ML exist and if i compare them than this man is far better in my opinion.




    maybe it is just my brain bc he is my ideal type of man (with less curses comming out of his mouth tho ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭)

    Love September 14, 2020 10:31 pm

    that was long af. Sorry (≧∀≦)

    BeeLame September 15, 2020 12:28 am
    that was long af. Sorry (≧∀≦) Love

    I didn't read after that tbh. But yea either way idk what happened but if someone is obviously terrified like her, regardless of the reason, they should not proceed to have sex with them. If they didn't follow through then that's good but from what I read it just felt very dubious and wrong in the moment