manipulation

kimchiGOLD October 5, 2020 8:35 pm

i really cannot get behind her manipulating the public opinion of her husband and degrading his status so that way she can get her communication device back. she's smart, and how easily she's able to manipulate people shows that, but he's a military commander. spreading rumors that he's a sucker for his wife is fine, although it may make him a target (or her), but making it seem as though he hurt her physically? that just rubs me the wrong way. honestly it would have been really funny if he just accused her of all the crimes she did genuinely commit and she got locked up and realized how powerful he is. right now it just feels like there's a power imbalance; it would be cool to see them tread carefully around one another - her understanding she can't ruin his reputation and him understanding he can't prevent her from doing certain things, other than her just being like "oops let me snoop around in classified information and ruin your reputation and slander you because you took my phone because i was risking our lives!!!! haha what are you going to do im going to imply that you physically hurt me when you fight with me >:3"

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    kaxsu October 5, 2020 11:08 pm

    It's just a webtoon

    kimchiGOLD October 5, 2020 11:39 pm
    It's just a webtoon kaxsu

    doesn't make my opinions any less valid.

    Nie Nie October 6, 2020 12:43 am

    THANK YOU. my god those who are defending her behavior probably act that way themselves.

    rottenbubble October 6, 2020 6:43 am
    THANK YOU. my god those who are defending her behavior probably act that way themselves. Nie Nie

    I belive so too.

    diveien October 6, 2020 8:41 pm

    Let's not forget that he's pretty horrible himself, just killing or cutting off people's hand for the slightest thing, his own officers fear him in more than a "fearing the military boss" rational manner. You would think irrational killing and given to sudden bursts of violence would be a pretty bad trait for a character, but somehow he gets a pass. killing~manipulating which is worse?

    kaxsu October 6, 2020 8:53 pm
    THANK YOU. my god those who are defending her behavior probably act that way themselves. Nie Nie

    It's not that I'm defending the character cuz i get what you're trying to convey. Im just saying it's not worth dwelling on this too much since it's just a webtoon. Still you can do and say whatever you want,,it's not like i was trying to undermine your opinion.

    masticatious October 7, 2020 8:30 am

    none of this is being framed with the intention of it meaning meant at anything but comedic so I thing you should probably stop overthinking this. that part of her character makes her more interesting then these mary sue types that are endlessness kind and selfless

    masticatious October 7, 2020 8:34 am
    none of this is being framed with the intention of it meaning meant at anything but comedic so I thing you should probably stop overthinking this. that part of her character makes her more interesting then thes... masticatious

    dude was going on about how he cuts peoples arms off for touching his things and your like "but shes too catty and manipulative!" lol they are both horrible

    kimchiGOLD October 7, 2020 3:31 pm
    dude was going on about how he cuts peoples arms off for touching his things and your like "but shes too catty and manipulative!" lol they are both horrible masticatious

    bro he's a literal military commander. if someone was touching my things and i was someone in a position of power, where the documents and stuff i had in my personal desks were restricted information, i too would probably punish someone who committed that crime, because it is a literal crime. i like to analyze characters in webtoons, im a writer myself, and as someone who grew up in a not so great environment, i can feel really icky around emotional manipulation. because it fucking sucks.

    Nie Nie October 8, 2020 9:43 am
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    I want to know what your definition of a strong independent woman is, because I haven’t seen any of those traits in her so far. Is a strong independent woman someone who throws tantrums when she can’t post on social media, insist on using high quality shampoo to wash her hair, guilt trips her husband by threatening him with his reputation, and makes her husband at her beck and call? Aside from the short burst of magic she had (which was literally 1-2 episodes lol), I don’t recall her being useful otherwise. She’s not a strong independent woman. She’s bratty, spoiled, inconsiderate, and that type of attitude isn’t cute. Who knows maybe she’ll get better in the coming episodes. Regardless of her background story, though, it is NOT an excuse for emotional manipulation. You want a true strong independent FL? Lady and the Beast, Villainess Reverses the Hourglass, Death is the Only Ending for the Villainesss.

    Also, the whole thing about him cutting off someone’s limbs for touching his stuff was taken so out of context. He is an admiral who has to protect his country. If someone was snooping around his office, where NATIONAL SECRETS and CLASSIFIED INFORMATION are being held, without permission, they would absolutely be punished for treason and espionage. In this time period, it would be execution.
    Imagine if FL acted the way she did at a military base but in real life. Publicizing pics of a secure military location, touching stuff without permission. She would’ve been dragged out and punished because that’s law and order.

    So no I have no reason to be jealous of a bratty and inconsiderate FL. The ML isn’t even that hot anyway lol. I know that there are a lot of young girls on this website, and I just think that the amount of people condoning FL’s behavior is concerning. Please do not emotionally abuse your partner.

    Kimi October 8, 2020 4:34 pm
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    i just want their dynamic to be more realistic and less in her favor - I think it would be better for them to be equals, and for them to be able to respect each other's power, instead of him catering to her whims and whenever she does something that endangers them because she's so easily able to control public opinion and make it seems when they get into disputes he hurts her. it would be nice if she respected his authority and he respected hers, and they're able to hold a mutual respect for each other.

    Kimi October 8, 2020 4:37 pm
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    his office is a secure place. i have no idea what your knowledge about politics or military or history is, but from what you're showing, it seems quite lackluster. she's a spoiled brat who throws tantrums and breaks laws, and he's a genuine simp for not being able to punish her. she's a child. he's a bonafide military commander and high ranking official.

    Kimi October 9, 2020 6:10 am
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    Oh god stop making this a fucking gender thing. I just hate bratty entitled adults who act like children and then are revered either for being attractive or "independent." And yes, they are married, but in name only. It was against their wishes. And I'm just fucking mad that she's painting this picture that he fucking abused her in a fight. That is my main issue. Not that she's childish and spoiled and he's a simp(leton), but that she got her phone back by whining and manipulating public opinion by making it seem as if he hurt her in a dispute. That's too far. Sneaking into a military official's office and going through his desk, whatever. Having a temper tantrum because her phone was taken away and she can't post photos since she was endangering not just herself but her "husband"? Whatever. Making it seem as though their marriage was consensual but then has strain where he physically hurt her in a dispute? That's awful. As someone who did not grow up in a loving family, that's a fucking awful thing to portray. You are ignoring the fact that she manipulated public opinion about their relationship (which is not a cool thing to do) and then made it seem as though he was physically hurting her. How the fuck is this a gender thing. That is awful manipulation and I can not get behind it.