Uhm, yes, no. It's not about "modern first world views", it's about preserving children, especially physically — you talk about preserving bloodlines, but that does not require marrying children to adults, children whose bodies can't yet safely procreate anyway. So that relativist argument really doesn't fly.
I do agree, though, that after the first couple of chapters, either the age gap was too much for you (which I fully understand) and you stopped, or you continued reading, at which point it really becomes pointless to repeatedly comment about it. I would have much preferred it if she were older and they were closer in age, but I like the story enough to continue reading, even if I'm uncomfortable with that age gap.
PS : I don't quite think it's pedophilia anyway ? He doesn't seem to feel attracted to her in that sense. At least I hope I'm right and it stays like that.
Yeah agree but it still does happen. Not in USA since thank god they stop that shit. But in other countries grown ass men still marry and impregnate children it basically the “norm” for them. I wish they would stop it everywhere but we can’t control what other countries do. I do agree with you that if people don’t like the age difference then they should just stop commenting it on every chapter and just stop reading it. I’m personally am fine with this story as long as the man doesn’t do anything sexual to the kid. Once he start kissing her or touching her in the wrong way imma boycott this manga. Hopefully they at least wait until she is of age to do anything romantic with them.
Fingers crossed (￣∇￣")
So obviously you guys are among those that don't bother to do your research. Marriage between these two is not that unusual, up until the 19th century even Great Britain married girls of 16 to men in their 60's, but now it's looked down upon. At any rate, you are still p;acing current and modern first world country views onto a fictional story. Bullshit about saving children, reading this manga won't make them become victims of pedophilia, of which this manga has none. Of you have the time to boycott this and waste your time hoping it will be removed, why don't you do something useful and pick up a damn book. Learn about history both in the United States and all over the world. I would say don't bother me with a response, but the both of you seem the type to hold onto you strawmen, and rely on your personal opinions rather than actual facts, so even if you respond I will be happy to just know that you aren't worth my time to read. Have a good day.
Lmao. You wasted your time being a bitch and for what? Who cares if it history people still have opinions and people can judge whatever the fuck they want. Honey do yourself a favor and take a chill pill cause it ain’t that fucking serious. If you was so serious about this not being “worth your time” then you shouldn’t have made a comment in the first place if you didn’t want to get reply’s. Also you need to learn how to read cause I clearly said if they start drawing shit where he touching her inappropriately or they start fucking then i sure as hell will boycott the fuck outta this manga. No one wanna see a grown man fuck a little kid. Idc if it history or not it’s disgusting. So far nothing happens which is great and I’m happy about it and will continue reading since it a nice story. But i can say whatever i want and please if you can’t handle people opinions then stay the fuck off the internet if you’re gonna be a snowflake about it.
Also why the hell would i do research on a book that has nothing to do with history to begin with? You don’t have to know the history of grown men dating/marrying kids to read this book. People can have whatever views they want on this book. It their opinions so if you wanna cry about people placing modern views on it then go ahead! Waste your time!!! People opinions won’t change even if they knew the history or not. Just because you like reading stories where adults is dating kids doesn’t mean other’s do.
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And exactly where in this story is an adult dating a kid. An arranged marriage has nothing to do with dating, and my complaint, dipshits was over people claiming pedophilia where there isn't any. That's like saying a 25 year old man who likes spending time with his 12 year old niece is a pedophile just because of the age difference. They have tea together and take walks. He's worried about her safety, if there wasn't an arranged marriage they'd probably never have met, but calling pedophilia when the adult isn't showing any sexual interests is ignorant. So take your snowflake kiss my ass, and open a fucking book you dumb ass because your opinion wasn't ever the issue, it was using the right fucking term!
But he's married to her. It's not like he's just a friend or an uncle, he's her husband. Child marriage is a form of grooming, also known as pedophilia. There are political child marriages still going on in the modern world but does that make it ok if they don't "sexually touch" the child despite forcing them into a marriage? The author decided to make the female lead 12 and her romantic partner 27, how do you not see anything wrong with that just because he doesn't touch her?
Ann's your analogy is ridiculous and doesn't match with the situation at hand. Being blood related is different than two strangers who are now in a marriage. And uncles can still be pedophiles for their nieces by the way
Look the claims of pedophilia are because of their ages. They have spent no real time alone, nor have they acted like anything other than brother and sister. And I never said and uncle couldn't be a pedophile just that you can't call him that because he enjoys spending time with his nieces. And yes these two are related. They are cousins.
Plus they aren't dating, I said nothing about them not being married. That is drawing on an old fashioned custom that only stopped in first world countries a couple of centuries ago. They aren't dating! She hasn't spent hardly any time near him. She's lived with his mother, her father and step brothers, but only on their walks has she spent any time alone, and even then she had her maid. So nothing sexual has gone on. And a pedophile is an adult that has sexual feelings and commits sexual acts with or because of children. So no there is no pedophilia in this. Being married to him does not make him a pedophile.
Oh and as far as your grooming her to be a bride is pedophilia, then the ones that should be crusified should be the king, queen, and her father because they are doing the grooming, not her husband.
You're right. They aren't dating, they're married. Which is significantly worse than dating simply because he is now married to a literal child. The author could be made them older but he/she/they? Decided to glorify child marriage and put it into their story. And both the king, wueen, mother father and husband are at fault since they're all involved in it. Benchmarked to a child is wrong and pedophilic. Stop justifying it. It's not that hard. Just say that the man (or author of you want to take it to another level) is in the wrong and that this is bad. You don't even have to say that it's pedophilia just admit that being married to a child is wrong. Even if you don't have a romantic attraction or touch the child, it's still wrong
Just admit that being married to an child is wrong. Just admit it, stop defending it. Please.
Again, this is an opinion shared in first world countries. But I never said it was right, you simply read what you wanted to read. I only said that it's not pedophilia, and the act of marriage between people of such large age gaps was common for royalty and throughout history. Now you can find these stories every where, but don't get all up in arms because an antiquated custom doesn't fit your morals. It's not pedophilia. The author chose something that is not uncommon in their country, and you have right to judge that because it's only recently stopped in japan. All I have been saying is that it's not pedophilia. And the grooming of brides of all ages is practiced every where. That doesn't mean they are having sex with the child being groomed. Most grooming deals with how to be a good cook and house keeper, something even american girls learn at a young age. The rub is that these two are married. It's in name only for God's sake. The author hasn't even write them acting like a married couple. He's not grooming her to fuck him, and take care of him, she's being trained to be the future queen. She's getting education, taught politics, economics, and various other things a queen should know, yet all you guys are fixated on is the age difference and calling in pedophilia. It's a political marriage, and yes she's 12 years old and aware that he's her husband. She also got the soul of a 30 year old woman and she's not freaking out. If you have to use the age difference as a reason to dis the manga then you should stop reading a lot of manga. There are genres dedicated to actual pedophilia, and child rape. Go read those and get a real grasp on what really grooming a child means, and what real pedophilia is. If their age difference is the worse the manga can come out with then yeah, I'm fine with that. Get off your night horse and learn the difference between just being in a contract and being in an actual marriage. Because until they actually have sex that marriage is nothing more than a contract, and so far it doesn't look like they're going to be having sex any time soon.
You do know what child grooming is in child marriage right? Just because they don't have sex doesn't mean they're not grooming her. By they, I mean the whole family who allowed this to happen. By the way, no one is reading this story for the historical accuracy and this is a fantasy nivel, so the whole "this happened back in the day and was common" can be thrown out the window since this is a fantasy world where the author can make his/her own rules for royalty. However the author decided to put their main character as a child to be married by a man when they literally could be chose any other age than that. They couldve made her older or him younger, but they chose to be a borderline pedophile with this. Just because the girl has the soul of a dirty year old doesn't make it right, because she has the body of a twelve yearnold. None of this story (and many others who have the lolicon and shotacon trope) are things to look up ton and defend because its based off of someone looking like a child (or mentality of a child) and normalized things like child marriage. Stop defending child marriage by saying its just a "contract" because a child literally doesn't understand what it means to be married and shouldn't be married until theyre older. The whole "it was common throughout history" goes out the window when you look at the genre, fantasy. They can make their own history to their world but they decided that instead, I'm going to make a child and an unwilling man marry instead of making her older or him younger.
How do you not see anything wrong with this? Throw the pedophilia out and actually look at this story. How do you not see anything wrong with a child marrying an adult in a made up world where the author could be done literally anything else than that?
You know what? I'm done. I'm done trying to explain to you why child marriage is wrong and shouldn't even be a thought that crosses an authors mind unless they're doing it for historical accuracy, which the author is not doing here. If they did they would be included a lot more barbaric things but it seems they only wanted to get away with making a twelve and twenty seven year old marry. That alone is wrong. It may be a contract to you, but tell that to the thousands of child brides married each year to their husbands. It's not just a contract to them. It binds them. I really don't understand why you would defend this at all and insult me in the same sentence. It's counter productive. Learn your research and open your eyes to see how wrong this is.
You need to learn how to read dumbass. Not once in any of my responses did i call him a pedophile. Before you start coming at people please learn how to read before you make a fool outta yourself. Also i said “if they show him having sex with a child im boycotting this manga” idgaf if it history or not. No one want to read a manga IF they’re showing a little kid being fuck by a grown man. Who gives a shit if it’s history you can take your historical illiterate gross ass elsewhere.
You’re so quick to get mad just cause no one agreeing with your dumbass. Honey you need to re read slowly what i said. I understand that you’re slow in the head but it okay re read slowly word by word what i said. Lmao you’re so quick to get defensive instead having a civil conversation. As i said in my first comment was that I’m fine with the story if they don’t show the man doing anything sexual with a child. You wanna act like a bitch for no reason and accuse me of calling him a pedo. Sweety aren’t you a stupid one. Instead getting mad and claiming that people calling him a pedo cause last time i check only 1 person in this comment section called him that. So get your facts straight. And don’t @ me if you’re gonna continue popping off and saying dumb shit you illiterate bitch.
The age difference thing has nothing to do with morals, it had more to do and, in many places, still has to do with survival of the blood line. Placing modern first world views onto a fiction story is pointless. Their relationship isn't legal or illegal, and that's just the truth. It's pedophilia, because they aren't having sex, or in a sexually active relationship. They are characters in a freaking story. If you have that much of an issue, stop reading, but don't call a rake a spade just because you learned a fancy new word and think you know what it is about. Seriously, enough with the pedo comments. Learn what your shinny new word actually means and apply to something that fits. Otherwise, stop bitching because this manga doesn't fit your pretty ideals, and stop reading stuff like this.