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nothing but factssss

hey, you said good polite stuff. much appreciated

that's f'ckd up. You're nothing but a cult. NO one ever had all these squeemish problems and loudmouthed, hysterical complaints in 20 years of yaoi. The problem is not all the readers who came before. You're the problem, and the things you say and try to do are screwed up and unjust

Maybe because 20 years ago our society was plagued by a lot more inequality and oppression than we face in current year. Rape should never be romanticised or normalised in any form of media, and the fact that yaoi used to be so heavily centred around sexual abuse is just a testament to the time in which those stories were written: a time where people did not care about sexual assault to the degree that they do now. I’m not going to try and explain to you why rape is wrong, because the fact that you typed this up, proofread it, and still thought it was something worth commenting means that you yourself are deep in a “cult” of misogyny and blatant homophobia.

No. Rape is not “necessary” or “acceptable” and the fact that most people in current year are able to recognise that is a step in the right direction if we want to enact change. People like you, that see the denouncing of sexual abuse as “cult-like behaviour” and praise depictions of rape and abuse, are the reason I feel unsafe walking home by myself at night.

And just while I’m still here, I’ll take your low-hanging fruit of a troll comment on a ride.

I agree that this story revolves around rape and seduction. That is a fact. Most of the stories written by Mizukami Shin take place in a much earlier time period than the one we currently live in, so obviously, context matters. In the context of Imperial Japan, stories like these were a lot more common—those of visible power dynamics and abuse being present in relationships. So when you say that this story could not exist without the aspect of rape and seduction, I completely agree with that.

However, that fact does not justify the actions taking place. Regardless of what kind of historical context is behind this story, the act of rape and sexual abuse (or any kind of abuse for that matter), is never acceptable. As I said in my previous comment, I’m not going to sit here and explain to you why rape is wrong. I’m assuming you’re old enough to figure that out by yourself. Either way, the fact that you see the concept of consensual relationships as “puritanical” and “tasteless” truly makes me weep for you. I can’t imagine what it must be like to be so red-pilled that you cannot accept criticism about human-right abuse without getting offended. But I digress.

You say that we should have some respect for the author and not denounce their depiction of sexual abuse, and to that, I have a comment to make.

You can appreciate art while still acknowledging it’s flaws. As I mentioned, Mizukami Shin’s stories are inherently flawed because they show a dark side of relationships—those that are built on abuse. However, despite these “flaws”, I would still consider them art. I absolutely love this author, and most of their stories are ones that I truly cherish. This doesn’t mean that I cannot recognise that there are toxic behaviours being portrayed in them. On the contrary, if you truly want to be as pedantically “tasteful” as you’re making yourself sound, then I would assume that you would at least pretend like you’re giving the story some critical thought. But alas it seems like I am mistaken.

If you can’t read a story that depicts rape and abuse without critically thinking about what you’re reading, then I regret to inform you that you’re not viewing it as “art” but rather as a regular story that portrays rape, and you seem to have no problem with that. You accept it at face value without questioning WHY you’re appreciating the abuse taking place, so the only “cult-like” person here is unfortunately you.

Thank u so much for explaining!! I couldn't have put it more better- sometimes new young readers get the wrong idea through such art even tho the author never intended it...it's weird to see rape as tasteful...i tend to ignore rape coz there is some reality in it...but in the real world it only breaks lives than build relationships...Its sad...I think its not wrong to comment saying it's bad...but the person looked really agressive so I got scared and backed off...oop

Ummm ma’am, idk who’s gonna tell u but just because rape has been normalized in BL doesnt make it okay plz check yourself before u start advocating for things such as sexual assault.

Pop off kweeenn

Ma’am, you’ve gained a follower

No no no no....I didn't mean it like that...Its my feeling towards this perticular first comment...and tf I sound so old....I am young too...but just said that after I remembered ks romanticism....idk what iam talking abt anymore....

Oh god....I messed up again after ur reply after mine...aaaaaaaaaa

Our society? People of previous generations have been working for awareness, justice, and civil rights for the good of all. You have no right to pass judgement on people who have been striving for these things for far longer than you've been alive. What you said about them is reprehensible.

Dude I think you got the wrong idea. They were trying to say that 20 years ago, there were ALOT more inequality and oppression. They never undermined the previous generations hard work. Read the paragraph again.

How do you know anything about 20 years ago? 20 years ago the crime rate was less. Civil rights laws were already in place. The many benefits of the civil rights movement were coming to fruition. twenty years ago is not that long ago. Were you alive 20 yrs ago? The USA was at peace for the most part. There's more inequality and oppression now, and it keeps getting worse, taking us backwards with every passing day. don't believe me? Check out cancel culture, blm, antifa, the horrors of the stupid woke movement, riots, critical theory, safe spaces and tws. segregation, races pitted against other races. the snowflakes and all their pathetic bullsh*t. Leftist power grabs, stupid threats that the climate change will end the world in 12 years - scare tactics. This time period makes twenty years ago look like a cake walk. LOL

also why on earth are you jumping in and taking up Howl's cause? Is he weak?

this is wrong. yaoi was never centered around abuse. the rapes were 99% all about love and seduction, and those au's were fictional and had ZERO to do with the rape of female victims in RL.
I wouldn't call what you people do "caring" Rape is not wrong in fictional works. Wanting it to go away is a call for censorship. Don't you get that you're on the wrong side of the issue? seriously? You want to infringe artist's rights to such a degree that it's outright authoritarianism. No one is running around saying rape is not wrong. that's stupid.
The accusation itself is enough to get you hated for such slander.
You don't get to destroy other people's rights. You can't complain away the constitution. and you have no justice on your side.
Look, you, you don't have any right to tell the artists what's necessary and unnecessary in their art. If they think it's necessary, it's necessary, little hitler.
I've never once said that sexual abuse in RL shouldn't be denounced. this isn't real life. it's artistic expression. it's not your story. You have no right.

but mom........... ! lmao

I'm not a girl. stop assuming

I should report you for that