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MakiaSnipe October 21, 2020 12:51 am

Ok but... long haired boi is so cute when he knows right from wrong like, yes mommy. Teach him a lesson. I feel like a fight will probably happen, and tbh I hope long hair knocks the shit out of him, along with sense IN him. I understand hes maybe damaged from his past, but can’t nun justify the bad things he’s done, he needs a few pows to rearrange his brain cells frfr

Responses
    MakiaSnipe October 22, 2020 10:19 am
    (You don’t have to read it all if you don’t want I’m sorry I typed a lot) Okay I understand what you’re saying and im not trying to be selfish about anything. People who like to role play and have a kin... IGNORITAL

    Ok- wow. I get it now, Tysm for the response. There is no reason for this person to be rude about how most people feel about the rape—the situation is disturbing and it’s very understandable how many people can’t quite handle it since it’s a terrible thing that actually happens. Completely understood! Like u said- there’s no reason for them to lash out on others and force people to think that rape is okay. It indeed isnt ok and the real thing shouldn’t be supported, ofc. Not sure why this dude is on everyone’s comments like that- probably seeking attention or most likely looking for an argument smfh

    MakiaSnipe October 22, 2020 10:31 am
    (You don’t have to read it all if you don’t want I’m sorry I typed a lot) Okay I understand what you’re saying and im not trying to be selfish about anything. People who like to role play and have a kin... IGNORITAL

    And I too have quite a fetish for force and dominance, I’m really into hardcore BDSM, but even so, I’m very into consent. Reading the rape scenes in this manga weren’t a “WOW this is- I’m SO disgusted” for me. I couldn’t see myself supporting rape, but i must say that ik how to keep this fiction and reality separate. The scenes were hot to me, simply bc I’m obsessed with gay smut and have seen so much shit since 13 and my brain is just- ugh gross but it doesn’t mean that I support it. If reading an actual person’s rape story, I’d be full of hatred and disgust. Rape, It’s wrong and it shouldn’t happen, hope someday this person will have the same mindset

    Quicksilver October 22, 2020 6:03 pm
    Yes no, no one fantasizes about this shit except for you bro, do you see how many people are saying that what he does was wrong and their uncomfortable with it? So I’m pretty sure you’re the only one who en... IGNORITAL

    YOU fantasized about rape when you READ THIS MANHWA!! The whole story revolves around this fantasy of rape, and you're coming back every week, which is why I will lash out at people who KEEP reading this, then come to the comment section to dump a load of their hateful hypocrisy on us!
    Seriously, you've done nothing but put offensive words in my mouth that I didn't say and would never say.
    I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE who is offended by this shit, and some of us have had it up to here after 28 damned chapters!

    Quicksilver October 22, 2020 6:23 pm
    And I too have quite a fetish for force and dominance, I’m really into hardcore BDSM, but even so, I’m very into consent. Reading the rape scenes in this manga weren’t a “WOW this is- I’m SO disguste... MakiaSnipe

    I was with you till you said, "this person" If you mean me, are you actually telling me that you've assumed that when reading someone's personal story of being raped I wouldn't have the exact same feelings of sympathy and outrage? I have not said one single word to give you any reason to think I wouldn't. You're the one drawing all kinds of assumptions about me because I have never said I condone real life rape.
    Talking about me between yourselves and saying things you've assumed about me, things that aren't true, anyone would find that personally offensive.

    MakiaSnipe October 22, 2020 6:31 pm
    YOU fantasized about rape when you READ THIS MANHWA!! The whole story revolves around this fantasy of rape, and you're coming back every week, which is why I will lash out at people who KEEP reading this, then... Quicksilver

    I thought u said u weren’t getting out of character about this? It’s just a story, so let people think how they want to think about the story, yeah? Not everyone is going to have the same thoughts about this as u do, clearly. Ur being way too hateful about this—ppl are hating a fictional character bc he rapped someone, and that’s totally understandable, ppl can love, hate, adore, etc fictional characters, it’s literally not hurting anyone. It isn’t as if ppl are bashing u, or the author, or the plot. Just Simply a character, dude. Maybe their opinion about him will change over time, so don’t go around attempting to force ppl what to think. If u think something different than others, that’s really ok, but don’t spread hate bc of different views on a character.

    And it’s a fact that ppl don’t fully know what they’re getting into when about to read a Yaoi manga. They probably knew there would be rape, but they could have thought that the rape wouldn’t be as harsh as these scenes were. Or they could’ve thought that the rape weren’t between the two main characters. And even if they did know, they’re probably reading it bc they’re curious of how something as horrible as rape will turn into love—or basically how this will all turn out. Just bc they’re reading this, doesn’t mean they fantasize about rape.

    Sorry for the long response again but like...

    MakiaSnipe October 22, 2020 6:43 pm
    I was with you till you said, "this person" If you mean me, are you actually telling me that you've assumed that when reading someone's personal story of being raped I wouldn't have the exact same feelings of ... Quicksilver

    Alr if ur actually with us of how terrible the reality of rape is, then I am so sorry, and I shouldn’t have said that last part. It’s just that ur giving everyone the thought that u actually support rape. U could have simply said that u only fantasize about it thru the manga, but would never side with it irl, maybe that would give ppl a better understanding of what ur thinking. But most importantly, u talk about how u find it personally offensive, but what about those hateful comments that you’ve given to others when they thought differently than u? When they had morals in mind while reading the mangas? Ur lashing out on them bc they don’t like the same character as u do, but u talk about feeling offended bc I said I hoped u had the same mindset as us? And as for assumptions—didn’t u once say that I should sit on the beach with murderers, serial killers, and rapists? Bc u assumed, right? I think I’m almost done with this conversation, seriously. But I didn’t mean to offend, so sorry again about that.

    garlic_bread011 October 22, 2020 7:00 pm
    Not you defending a rapist. Okay yeah his childhood is fucked but it gives him NO right to RAPE someone. Don’t generalize rape cause there is literally no excuse for that shit Vixix

    dude, this ain't an excuse or about rights. it's a story but u getting fucked up over it. it ain't generalizing it either. reading and appreciating the author's work doesn't mean promoting rape. do even know if lee kang rapes junho again at the end of the story?

    miki October 22, 2020 9:57 pm
    Bro you’re such a fucking idiot. Who defends rape. Okay he has a fucked up past but that still doesn’t give him the right to go and rape someone, what the fuck is wrong with you. Do you know how many rape v... IGNORITAL

    I been reading your accusing remarks very carefully. There's no excuse for you saying someone said something they didn't say, twisting someone's words into lies is called bad faith.
    Your insults, too. You suck so bad, sister. You don't even know what you're talking about calling down names that way. It's up to the author who Junho belongs with, not you. You rewriting the story to make everything look like it fits in with your hate bcuz you are full to the brim with hate so you can't even see.

    Quicksilver October 23, 2020 2:04 am
    Alr if ur actually with us of how terrible the reality of rape is, then I am so sorry, and I shouldn’t have said that last part. It’s just that ur giving everyone the thought that u actually support rape. U... MakiaSnipe

    I have said that only about a billion times. Why do I or anyone have to say what is obvious, what the entire consiousness of the people of most of our world have known and believed for at least 70 years and more. I should keep saying it? for who? Are you a member of a group whose members condone rape so all of your members have to keep reiterating that you're against it? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? Everyone, even rapists, know rape is wrong. It used to go without saying, and then, about three years ago, people started saying all this radical crazy as hell raving maniac shit about how rape is wrong. well the rest of us are like duh. so why do any of us have to keep repeating these inane phrases like "it's not an excuse for rape." do you have any idea how much this comment section has read the stupid phrase. It's like you're little group is accusing the whole world of excusing rape. No one ever did. so why are you insisting I disclaim till my tendons falll out of my fucking arms?

    miki October 23, 2020 2:40 am
    I have said that only about a billion times. Why do I or anyone have to say what is obvious, what the entire consiousness of the people of most of our world have known and believed for at least 70 years and mo... Quicksilver

    preach it, Q!!!!!!! Makia here's what u said! "for most people in this cruel world, there is no excuse for why rape should happen." So why does this guy have to keep reassuring you and your friends? You conversation w ignorital sounds cra cra to me. both of you sound insecure like you're afraid someone is going to "condone rape" No one condones rape. Are you guys nuts? You sound and keep sounding like you're accusing Q of condoning rape. Isn't that pretty crazy ridiculous?

    MakiaSnipe October 23, 2020 3:52 am
    I have said that only about a billion times. Why do I or anyone have to say what is obvious, what the entire consiousness of the people of most of our world have known and believed for at least 70 years and mo... Quicksilver

    No ones “accusing the whole world of rape”. Step into reality a bit—there are people out there that supports rape, like literally the real thing. And what this boils down to is that, idk u and u don’t know me. For all Ik, u could be someone that wants ppl to get rape (not saying that ur like that, but no one can ever be too sure). There are ppl on this website that condones rape! And the reason phrases like “it’s no excuse for rape” goes around a lot is to keep up everyone’s morals, and for anyone and everyone to learn from it. I hope that those types of phrases go on forever and ever, bc there’s absolutely no reason of why we should keep it unspoken. Just bc u think that it’s obvious rape is wrong, doesn’t mean it should suddenly be unsaid—the same as, just bc YOU understand that rape is wrong, doesn’t mean everyone else knows; don’t forget that there is a whole generation after urs

    miki October 23, 2020 5:17 am
    No ones “accusing the whole world of rape”. Step into reality a bit—there are people out there that supports rape, like literally the real thing. And what this boils down to is that, idk u and u don’t k... MakiaSnipe

    you sound too young to know that it is not common for there to be people walking around saying rape is okay. that's in your mind. who is this group of people? this is childish. You're imagining monsters where there are none. Rape is a crime, and even if someone wants to do it, why are they going to go around stupidly saying so. I don't know where you get these ideas, but I have to think that school sex ed classes is where some of it comes from. there aren't rapists around every corner the way they taught you

    miki October 23, 2020 5:22 am
    No ones “accusing the whole world of rape”. Step into reality a bit—there are people out there that supports rape, like literally the real thing. And what this boils down to is that, idk u and u don’t k... MakiaSnipe

    you show a lot of disrespect for others, and I must say it's not acceptable to keep it up and up. Telling people who are probably older than you to step into reality is not a way to be in a constructive exchange

    MakiaSnipe October 23, 2020 5:53 am
    you sound too young to know that it is not common for there to be people walking around saying rape is okay. that's in your mind. who is this group of people? this is childish. You're imagining monsters whe... miki

    Before talking to be as if I’m just some child without a single brain cell in sight, u should first know my age. I wouldn’t call u out without being aware of who u actually are. Tbh- this conversation was only between three ppl, I was gonna just ignore anyone else who decided to butt in but whatever ig. And I’m sorry- is it wrong to stay cautious? This time, I’m telling YOU to step into reality, because there are predators lurking in every damn corner, ma’am/sir. I hate it, but it’s a fact. There are much more good than evil in this world, but it doesn’t mean that we can just turn a blind eye about the actual evil that’s out there. It seems that u got all of ur information from Sex Ed, bc they don’t teach u just how much acts of forced sex and assault goes around in the world—which definitely seems to be where ur coming from. Not tryna be too rude, bc I’m not that type of person, but get a reality check. And oh, childish it is. VERY childish of the fact that I have to keep telling u people these things when we could all just be on the same side—the side of how being disrespectful towards people when they don’t like a character bc they raped someone is wrong— and get along. This conversation shouldn’t even have taken what, three days? About this topic. I’m gonna say this as simple as possible:

    Being rude towards ppl who hates a character for a moment, bc said character raped another character is very low, and u should stop with starting arguments about others viewpoint. Rape is wrong, and so what if ppl know that already? Rape is wrong, rape is wrong, rape is wrong. It should keep being said, and no one gives a rats ass of how annoyed u feel. If ya think rape is NOT wrong, seek some mental help. Also! Fictional or fantasy rape is fine! People have those types of kinks, do ur thing! However, supporting rape in reality is not ok! And once again, get help. There ARE cruel people everywhere, just waiting for a victim, and everyone should stay cautious about that for their safety. Being uninformed about it would most likely let u end up in a bad place. Instead of trying to push traumatic things like rape to the side, acting as if the world is cleansed of all evil, u should be cautious urself. And what is say is not to scare anyone, there are so many good moments in life- but everyone should be aware of the bad too. Did u read all of the conversation before immediately taking WuickSilvers side? No need to answer because I’m indeed with this conversation now. Still don’t get it? Hope u will someday, love. And with that being said, bye-bye.

    Quicksilver October 23, 2020 2:29 pm
    Before talking to be as if I’m just some child without a single brain cell in sight, u should first know my age. I wouldn’t call u out without being aware of who u actually are. Tbh- this conversation was o... MakiaSnipe

    Like Mickie and others I have lost patience with people shipping that blond character with Junho. It is beyond offensive to keep reading people blithely talk about the wonderful blond who they want to betray a friend who needs them. They're all gooey drawers, wanting blondie to betray his best friend who needs him and steal the person they know lee kang is interested in and already involved with. Lee Kang needs his friend. As in real life, you can't know how close to the edge a person in his position is. I don't think it's right for so many people, in this case, someone like this Markia clown to ignore every other evil in the world except rape as being okay to do.
    The blond's best friend is in mortal danger for his life as well as serious mental trouble, and this jerk with no morals is all starry-eyed wanting him to dump on his best friend, take away the one he likes, and leave him, removing something both his love interest and his closest friend who he needs if he has any chance of surviving the hell his life has been. No matter what Lee Kang has done, it doesn't make it right for the other people around him to abandon all morals as well and steal his one solid support out from under him. So, yes, some people are going to have a visceral reaction to such an obviously offensive statement. People here are a little shocked at this hairbrained ass having heart-shaped eyes over the worst kind of betrayal. I think it's not a bad reaction to be tired of hearing people go all romantic and wetting their pants over betraying a friend. You think rape is worse. I don't.

    miki October 23, 2020 7:11 pm
    Like Mickie and others I have lost patience with people shipping that blond character with Junho. It is beyond offensive to keep reading people blithely talk about the wonderful blond who they want to betray a... Quicksilver

    Thanks for being patient enough to explain this again to people who don't seem to know right and wrong.

    miki October 23, 2020 7:26 pm
    Ight. To clear it up, it’s terrible—his past, and I wish it didn’t happen. But u see survivors of abusive relationships and situations may be traumatized, but u don’t see them going so far as to blackma... MakiaSnipe

    I don't think that a young man who was so severely beaten and traumatized needs anymore violence in order for him to realize his mistakes.
    I don't think you or Quicksilver should have to keep clearing things up for people who should know right from wrong.
    People who like this story and author are tending to hope that Junho will show lee kang a way out of hell with love. That sound silly, but I am hope so too.

    Quicksilver October 24, 2020 4:40 am
    I don't think that a young man who was so severely beaten and traumatized needs anymore violence in order for him to realize his mistakes.I don't think you or Quicksilver should have to keep clearing things up ... miki

    miki is really such a big softie. LOL