Who is worse???

honestly that's why I love http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/may_i_ask_for_one_final_thing/ its so satisfying she punches the people who treat her like trash

Pretty sure this story’s ML is worse, didn’t even bother saying sorry for making our FL feel this way. But it always is a matter of point of views, so this is my opinion ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Indeed. At the very least I understand why readers might like Lady to Queen. It's not THAT bad, even if it remains questionable.

Abandoned Empress however? They clearly have no critical mind whatsoever to think that it's a good story or a representation of pure and fated love. I won't kink shame, they can enjoy it all they want. But at least they should admit just how fucked up the story is.

Ruve is wore by a mile. Want me to develop? I have a fucking file ready for it.

Oups, I wanted to say "worse".

I like Scarlet until I realized sth very annoying...
The older brother of her trash ex-fiancé/ML is a bored sadistic schemer whom the author gave more superiority than the MC.
That writer doesn't allowed Scarlet to punch and really insult that asshole perfect prince who keeps teasing and making fun of her!
I keep asking why why why is she so weak in front of that ML!

true (〜￣△￣)〜 but still I enjoyed more than some other stories

I like to recommend thse two stories to you:

The Villainess' Slow Prison Life Began With Her Broken Engagement (Novel or Manga)

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/her-royal-highness-seems-to-be-angry/

There is a manga adaptation but it does not follow the whole orignal plot faithfully because the MC is in the original novel less sexualized, far more unapologetic and badass.
No King, ex-fiance prince or her whole shitty family can even touch her.

Thank you sis I've just been recently staring to read novels cause manhwa is starting to be repetitive I appreciate it :)

Even before he was drugged and manipulated by a minister/duke from a hostile political fraction, he was already an obnoxious shithead who hated Tia because she is talented and loved by her own parents. And even though Tia's mother took care of him in his younger years he still has the audacities to dislike the MC who is the daughter of your beloved nanny! And when he realized that he fell love with Tia, he still keeps mistreating her!!!
Hey Ruve, You idiot; Shouldn't you take your anger out on your cunt father and try communicate peacefully with your chosen fiancee?

You re very welcome ;)

He was probably not in love with her in the first timeline in fact. He did not know her at all and only regretted when he learned that she did not plan to overtrown Ji-eun and that she cared about him after all. He love the "idea" of her but not the actual her. He had to ask himself who she was because he had no clue. He keep calling her concubine and bitch in his mind and so on. For second Ruve, same thing. He like the emotional her only, the one who cater to his ego. He only started to behave decently when he started wanting. He literaly did nothing after putting her into a comatose state! And so many more...

About that...
In Novel Side Stories he clearly confirms in his monologues his love for Tia especially before his demise caused by the minister/duke...
I find his thoughts and reasons pretty pathetic.

Here’s what I’m saying, I think the first life Tia lived the ML was definitely worse and everything he did was inexcusable than this story but if we’re talking second life with Tia and this story I personally think this ML gives me a headache. The other story also gives me a headache but it doesn’t come solely from the prince. Also I dropped the Abandoned Empress so I’m sorry if what I remembered was wrong. (〜￣△￣)〜

I have read the novel too, and I stand my ground. He did not knew her. He had to ask himself who she was because he had no clue at all. You can't love someone you don't know. He loved the "idea" of her and was physically attracted, but nothing more.

Second Ruve gave me way more headaches by being a self-intintled prick and a hypocrite. He is not that different for First Ruve. It's just that this time around he stopped being prejudicied against Tia. You only need to see how he treated the Princesses and Ji-eun to see that. He is still a prick (and his very off puting POV show it plainly), just not toward Tia. Worst of all, he is everything he hated about Tia (gloomy, self-entitled, thinking he deserve everything, play the victim card when he don't get his way, look down on others...). Talk about irony.

Agree to disagree.
At the end it does not excuse his god awful behaviour and attitude towards Tia.
It was Tia herself all along who changed her world/destiny.
I was very enraged that she had to end up with him after all that bullshit that happened to her in her 1. + 2. life because of him.

Same. Funny enough, I hate more the way it was done that the endgame itself. If the author intended to take this road she should not have thrown away the trauma, victim-blame Tia, made the other potential ML so much more appealing (even with one being a yandere), make Tia solely change and take action and so on. Also, a love story can have a love without basis, but NOT when the ML is the past abuser and the main character was given the power to change fate of all things. What a mess.

You are so right about second Ruve!
MLs like Ruve never takes NO for an answer, don't they?
Why is it that everytime the MC/FL gets a second chance and starts to become more emancipated/open-minded, the (ex) scum fiance prince becomes so interested/OBSESSED in her...
You should see how many manhuas about being reborn or transmigration also use the same logic.
That trope doesn't make sense to me at all!

At least In "Father, I Don't Want to Get Married!" the MC ends with a better man and her former entitled egomaniac ex-lover prince ends up dead :)

Any personal recommendations you like to share where the MC who does not end up with the abusive arrogant prince?