About drunk and rape

Kuzo November 8, 2020 9:51 pm

I watched some couple court and idk if it true but having drunk sex, it still considered cheating and the woman who drunk didnt mentioned she got raped and stuff. So, I guess it depends on us whether we consider it rape or nah.

For me, I dont considered it as a rape cuz probably I seen alot of drunk sex and there even novel or manga how a protagonist drunk sex with ceo, idk ml and she be like 'oh no. I had one night stand. Im going to run away with my child in my belly and come back to get their father back!' ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

Idk why. Usually, when people commented "this is rape cuz he didnt consent it smthng like that", I will have this feeling that be like,' thats make sense. I guess it considered as rape (80%) and not rape (20%) cuz Im confused. ' But if I dont have that feelings, then I guess it really not rape (40/60/70/80%) in my opinion

Responses
    Bokutachisan November 9, 2020 12:42 am

    Well since you are drunk you are not in the right state of mind so yeah its totally rape and specially when you don't initiate the sex
    And honestly see it from your point of view what if you are drunk and some random person who you might know or might not know have sex with you will you consider it rape or not? You didn't initiate it neither you were in the right state of mind to refuse it or resist so is it not rape..??

    Rachie November 9, 2020 1:45 am

    I completely agree with bokutachisan. In my opinion, i think drunk sex is completely rape because the drunk person isn't able to properly consent because they are intoxicated and not in the right headspace, and with no consent the sex is rape. Regardless of what manga or fiction stories you read and stories of people who had sex while drunk and didnt mention rape, drunk sex is rape.

    Kuzo November 9, 2020 3:24 am
    Well since you are drunk you are not in the right state of mind so yeah its totally rape and specially when you don't initiate the sex And honestly see it from your point of view what if you are drunk and some ... Bokutachisan

    What if the top is drunk and the one who initiates it is the bottom/uke, is it considered as rape?

    Bokutachisan November 9, 2020 8:00 am
    What if the top is drunk and the one who initiates it is the bottom/uke, is it considered as rape? Kuzo

    Yes the position doesn't matter rape is rape just because you are a top or a man doesn't mean you can not be raped

    Kuzo November 9, 2020 10:39 am
    Yes the position doesn't matter rape is rape just because you are a top or a man doesn't mean you can not be raped Bokutachisan

    Your opinion is great. Some people thinks that it aint rape when woman or bottom/uke rape man since it still their pussy/ass that still get violated/fucked(?) ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    Kuzo November 9, 2020 10:46 am
    Yes the position doesn't matter rape is rape just because you are a top or a man doesn't mean you can not be raped Bokutachisan

    Also, what if both party drunk and they just do em? Or what if both party got drugged/spiked and they just horny af? Both of them are not in right state of mind to consent and yet they just....do it? Sorry if Im asking too much. I just want to hear another person's opinion. Σ(っ°Д °;)っ I want to adjust my opinion/views to get big picture of 'rape'.

    Bokutachisan November 9, 2020 10:55 am
    Also, what if both party drunk and they just do em? Or what if both party got drugged/spiked and they just horny af? Both of them are not in right state of mind to consent and yet they just....do it? Sorry if I... Kuzo

    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/can-drunk-sex-ever-be-consensual-cbsn-originals/#
    Its a pretty big article but it can clear a lot of your questions

    Kuzo November 9, 2020 2:55 pm
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/can-drunk-sex-ever-be-consensual-cbsn-originals/#Its a pretty big article but it can clear a lot of your questions Bokutachisan

    Its did not answer my question actually... Its merely said it is not consensual sex. How to find who rape who if both of them too drunk? Is it considered as they raped each other?

    Bokutachisan November 9, 2020 3:07 pm
    Its did not answer my question actually... Its merely said it is not consensual sex. How to find who rape who if both of them too drunk? Is it considered as they raped each other? Kuzo

    OK so if you are really drunk that you are not in your senses you wont be able to even stand properly speaking from like personal experience so initiating and then actually having sex is almost not possible so one of the person would be in their right mind to actually intimate sex so its there responsibility to make sure that consent is involved since you wont be hammered enough to lose all your senses cuz being drunk and being drunk like totally knocked out is completely different