You have been reading this for 14 years? That is an exaggeration - the first chapter was not published 14 years ago - it was 12 years. And if the scanlation group refuses to share - that is their prerogative. Wait and buy the versions when they come out in your language instead of calling the wonderful people who do this work, lazy. Or maybe you should learn the language and do the work yourself - if you can actually get the scans. SMH some of the stuff you spout is just so juvenile.
Oh, dear, instead of being annoyance to many people, you should have tried doing it yourself. Try to scan, clean, and type the translations. You just really have no idea how hard it is; how it will take longer time to have the whole thing completely done.
You aren't entitled to the updated chapter that people work on scantalating for free in their own spare time for your benefit. If you want the copy that badly, go and fucking pay for it instead of being ungrateful and calling people lazy.
Agreed! I read online so my copies don't get wrecked - but that person (@reponce) is obviously feeling entitled and spoiled is s/he is calling the scan group lazy...they work hard to bring us this work and that kind of slandering would make anyone feel unappreciated.
really some of vf fans are annoying to death!
it's break so i tried to read other manga so i read the comment below of each manga and i was positively suprised, i noticed that other fans (readers) of other manga they are nice even if one of them complain you don't see others clic on annoy button or clash each other like here, here it's like battlefield !!!
compared to dec chap the translation came two days after the chap was realesed, energetic is opposit of lazzy or not? i can garante that everyone come here everyday to check if there are an updates but you don't phrase ur frustation and if another make such a comment u clash him/her hypocrite that's how i see it. calmos for for God's sake, let everyone a chance of freethinking !!!!pffff
Lazy is not the opposite to energetic. They will release it when they release it and no sooner, most of us wait quietly without complaint, some don't but NO ONE before you has had the audacity and the down right igorance to insult the scantalating team by calling them lazy.
Perhaps it's time to take a step back and think about why your posts get flagged as annoying, and why the fans here come across to you as nasty, it's because of the way your comments rub people the wrong way, not because people here are all bad people. Suck it up like everyone else, be grateful for what you're given and wait.
You have a way of saying things that annoy people - face it - you are confrontational, rude and surprisingly ignorant. You are one of the more annoying commenters on this page, so grow up a little. This is one of the most popular mangas on this site with the most views - of course there are going to be more comments here. And not many manga arrive only days after their original release date, so quit bitching, if the scan group does not want to share their work - that is up to them, not up to you, and is not a matter of being lazy.
ashida, i don't know why but when i read the last phrase " be grateful for what you're given and wait" i smiled coz the first image came to my mind when i read it, it's the poor from medieval age in europe ! and yes lazzy is opposite of energeic i sheck it out twice and by the way i didn't mean to insult them, but u allows urself to insult me ignorant, nasty, "not because people here are all bad people"it's what i said "some of vf fans" not all people here, don't deviate my thought as you want. can I make a remark or not? suck it up like everyone else, wow i will write dans une langue que je maitrise , zut alors! on a plus le droit de dire ce qu'on veut, se taire et faire comme les autres! on n'est pas des moutons! chacun est libre de penser ce qu'il veut ! we are not bunch of sheep! so i can't say what i want! u people who think like that are not in their rigt mind specialy who named theirself anonymous, it's supposed that they think and do otherwise of other and not to follow , u live in " democratic" country but behave like socialist what a joke! u must learn what's freethinking and not impose ur rule over everyone! let me say what i want and if u don't like it pass like other do! by the way i salute them.
Tror du, du er den eneste, der taler andre sprog her? Eller er du bare forsøger at vise nu?
Autres ici peuvent également écrire ans parlent d'autres langues.
My first language is not English either, and Canada has two official languages - French and English, so if you think that writing in your 'langue maternelle' is supposed to impress, there are may others here who also speak other languages. And being insulting and unappreciative are not going to make you any fans.
@reponce, go work on your doctorate some more and shut the fuck up. You are an absolute pest.
For your information: "THEY" had the new chapter scanlated in less then 24 hours after it's official release. So "THEY" have been anything but "lazy".
a) As stated by another poster, they don't owe you anything, most certainly they don't owe you to post the fruits of their labour here for your personal, free-of-charge enjoyment, reponse. b) Have you taken even 3 seconds to consider that they no longer share the scanlations everywhere because they have been TOLD not to do so by the publishers or else they will be shut down?!?
No. Of course you haven't considered that, reponse. Because your life's motto is "Me. Myself. And I". God, you are absolutely hopeless.
P.S.: And the opposite of "energetic" is "lethargic" or "apathetic". "Lazy" is the opposite of "busy", "hardworking" or "diligent". So stop being such an opinionated, insufferable, incorrigible and know-all little b****.
a) I'm sure that "THEY" will share the translation and i'm tankful for that if it's not here we can find it somewhere somehow like in tumblr or even in facebook! i will suprised if they can shut their compt.
b) how can you ask someone to leave their name and email it's totally insane (u have asked that up in other post).
c) http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-thesaurus/lazy here u can read black on white that energetic is oppsite of lazy certainly english is not my mother tongue but at least i can read and i have learned, and like i said I checked up twice !
d) what beats everything! you claims to know my moto's life? !!!
and finally if this web site will updates the new chapiter than you became a liar coz u claim thay u know them, that "THEY" don't need any help from outsiders, and the publishers contactes them and told them to not share the scanlations otherwise they will shut down this website. we will see and then if it"s true I will apologize to call u liar, so untill then bye bye little girl.
a)Honey, you SERIOUSLY need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I NEVER said they WOULD NOT share it. I said that a) YOU are not entitled to demand that they DO so or to insult people who do this for free and in their spare time by calling them “lazy” and b) I asked you whether YOU in your arrogance have considered the fact that the group MIGHT have been asked not to share scanlations and that if they did they might be forced to close down. I NEVER said that the publishers HAD considered them. But if you knew just one IOTA about scanlation groups you would know that this is what has happened to a great many scanlation group in the past. NOTE: THIS is the part where you apologize to me for your name-calling. Expect: I couldn’t give a rat’s ass whether you do or not because honestly, I don’t give about your opinion.
b)The group itself NEVER consciously shares the scanlations. In the past the group owner has been asked by members of the group if it was okay to share scanlations here and elsewhere. This always took place after the usual one week waiting period which is customary for scanlation groups. Since the new chapter hasn’t been published here (YET!) it means that either a) nobody from the group has bothered to ask the owners for permission to do so (YET!) this time or b) they asked and the group owners said no. Simple as. Someone might still ask for all I know or they might not. You might get it, you might not.
c)The point being: Don’t even DARE to try and twist around what I said and claim it to be something it is not. And don’t even try to take this away from what my post was about: A reply to your obnoxious and arrogant original post calling the scanlation group lazy because they hadn’t “posted” the chapter yet.
d)Yes, of course I know the group and the group owners. And my initials here will most likely tell those who are regulars of the group who I am. I have been a member for a very long time and I post and comment there on a regular basis. I am also a member of the group that does the summary version (they specifically ask that they work is not shared outside the group).
e)Your post tells us all very clearly that you have no flipping clue of what scanlation groups have had to deal with in recent years. Let someone here with more time to waste tell you about all the scanlation groups that received cease and desist letter from publishers and where therefore forced to close down or move. Let someone here tell you how the Harudaki group had to move an entire group of several thousand members on LJ because some blabbermouth wouldn’t stick to the group rules of not sharing outside the group. But of course you think you know it all, don’t you, reponse.
f)I asked Anon for her name and email address to see if she was actually serious about her offer or if it was someone trying to find out the location of the group to cause trouble for them. Of course I was not going to exchange details here. Don’t be ridiculous! Besides, don’t you know what a dummy mail address is and how it works? Please grow up, you silly girl. I already gave her a dummy address of my own so she can contact me.
g)LOL, this cracked me up. I KNEW you would post the Collins dictionary link. Well, dear: You are still wrong and you don’t know how to interpret the English language and good ol’ Collins properly. Because what Collins means is: Energetic = being full of energy. The opposite: Lethargic, apathetic = the absence of energy, not being able to do something due to lack of energy. Lazy = not liking to work hard or to be active, being able to do something/having the energy to do it, but not doing it. I suggest Merriam Webster for a closer look. Take it from someone who is not a native English speaker either, but who transcribes and translates English projects as part of her job. By the way, I speak five languages fluently, but I would never in a million years run around and shove that into people’s faces with the arrogance that you keep portraying here. Most of us are not native speakers. But we don’t behave like arrogant pricks the way you do.
h)I have no idea what “my moto’s life” is een supposed to mean. Learn to speak some proper English, if you want to communicate with people.
i)The only “little girl” in every way, shape or form around here, my dear, is YOU. You behave like the worst spoiled brat I have ever seen and I am glad you are not one of my children. Oh yes, I have a career, a husband and children, hon. And if any of my children ever dared to behave the way you do around here, they would have another thing coming.
j)I have watched you for a while now and by now I am almost sure you are just trolling. Nobody can be that thick. Either that or you have a social disorder of some sort. You are just not normal.
Last, but not least: Consider this my final response to you. I am not wasting any more time on your lunacy. I just feel sorry for your family and friends who have to deal with you on a daily basis.
Well said. Thanks for taking the time to instill some reality checks for @reponce. Many of us find this person to be extremely arrogant, over-entitled, rude and childish, hopefully your information will get through, but I doubt it. This person is a troll and seems to take joy from irritating behaviour, so it will likely continue. Ah well, what can you do but throw your hands up in disgust? Some people are slow to learn, or never learn. (reminds me of the rabid attitude of the anti-vaxxer people or religious fanatics)
They don't phrase it because they realize it won't help the case at all. If anything it's going to annoy the few members who'd maybe bother to wake up a morning and ask to share it because they'd be happy to. It's not like anyone in there feels like they even have to at all. Most don't even get involved in the community here.
As much as you're free to voice your thoughts, anyone is free to not share their work whenever they want. Besides, everything M. G. O. just said is true. It's actually a very complex situation, and each time they're sharing a chapter they're putting themselves at risk. The only thing that prevents them from being sued at the moment is that the group is hidden, but it really only takes one person to screw it up... Which is what happened with Harudaki.
That's why most feel everyone should only be thrilled that they're generous enough to share it, regardless of the time it takes. When they first shared, the response from here was: the scans and translations suck, leave it to a professional. When they got better, the comments were that they were cocky and "elite" and they should all go and die. That's why they just wait for someone to ask them to share it, they have had enough stress out of mangago that they don't want to get involved with it anymore.
With all that being said, that's why comments of this nature can get quite annoying. Things here are more serious than you seem to think.
it's toooo long it will make me 2 days to read and understand this long and complicated comment. but to judge someone "me" beind a screen somewhere far from what you are geographically, culturally is a bit odd, and i have read many books of psychology, all of them said that when someone start to say :you, they, or pepole are like that ; all what he says is his own inner personal traits, it means; what you said about other it's just a mirror of what u are truly depper inside you! how u can judge someone u don't even know his name, face, nationality? even a psy give a pen to see what a patient dran or what he interprete from bizzar pictures to try to figure out his personality! you have judge "me" with social disorder, abnormal specimen from a mere comment o.O
and insult me spoiler, bitch??? don't fight against windmills like don quichotte, for you I am nothing but a comment on the web, what i mean you pour all your anger on me from one comment???, take a long minute and think over calmely i don't deserve all your anger and insult just for one single mere comment ? you write : Because your life's motto is "Me. Myself. And I" you don't know me at all. u konw in my country to know someone we should borrow money or have some besiness with him or travel with this person far from our homeland or we live with him for a long time. u don't know me at all, i hope i will learn more but i think i'am all grew up to not jugde someone by the look or by a mere something as futil as this virtual thing the web, people are like onion with lot of leafves, it take a lifetime to know if we are bad or good to go in hell or paradise, or to know how we are deep in our heart. i'am sure somehow i'am older than you little girl :P
it's always a pleasure to read you, sincerely, if they don't phrase what they want, they will become like werewolf in full moon, full of frustration they will attack everyone over a mere word, they came here every day to chek if there is an updates so you can imagine their disapointment and frustation kept inside them until they find a prey lol it's how i imagine it. i can bet than most of the fans are afraid to share their thought they are afraid to become a target of a rude comment and thumbs down ! and about the translator, they can read the manga even in raw, if they take all the pain and time to translate it, it's to share it with everyone and i'am very thankful for that! it's their hobby and pleasure, to go far to defy the laws for free I suppose!
LOL, wow, you didn't understand a word of what Lightasus was trying to tell you. That's too funny. She wasn't agreeing with you, you know. On the contrary.
i knew ! but she speak rather write calmely and rationally that's what i like about her. we have different opinion but we speak kindly like civilized people without belittling with insults and such.
Lightasus does. You don't.
the translation group has changed or they are the same? i mean it's been 14 years since the first chap ! i don't see myself reading this manga and waiting all this time a decade and half...a lifetime!, beside people are changing constantly so the world around us, what if this chap is the last....? TT.TT