Is this a possible reason why Isis also cursed Seth...? (scroll down if you don't mind S...

Jayjay December 5, 2020 1:37 am

Is this a possible reason why Isis also cursed Seth...?

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Like others, I've also been wondering if the author had another reason to have Isis curse Seth as well, besides the obvious.
And then I remembered this scene from chapter 59, where Horus and Anubis are talking, and Horus remembers a conversation that Ra had with his mother Isis, when he was little and Isis had taken him to Ra in order to ask for Ra's help. That's when we hear Ra say, this is the result of the four siblings ignoring a warning she had given them (either to Isis, or to all four of them):

Ra: (to Isis) "꼴이 참 우습구나. 이시스. 도와달라니, 수치도 모르고. 정말이지, 너희 남매는 인간이나 다름없구나. 넷이 모여 구질구질하게 살 때부터 알아봤지. 신이 인간을 흉내 내며 살았으니 이 사달이 난 거 아니겠느냐. 내 경고를 무시한 대가를 치룬 게다." (That's funny, Isis. You say 'help me' while knowing no shame. Really, you siblings are like humans. I've been expecting this since the four of you gathered and lived together. Gods who lived imitating humans. So this four month was born -?- You paid the price for ignoring my warnings")

My point is, while Ra's meaning is that Horus' weakness is a result of his parents having lived "the human way", her mentioning that there had been a prior warning makes me wonder whether this warning wasn't what was in Isis' mind when she briefly held that knife to kill Anubis. Back then, she thought of Anubis as "the source of destruction", which we can all agree was pretty unfair... But what if she meant it in the sense that he was the child born and raised as a result of its parents' desire to imitate human love and human families, particularly as a result of Seth's own attachment to human values? ...I mean, if Isis giving birth to a weak, human Horus is the result of living the human way ignoring Ra's warning, and if Ra is right that these four gods' insistence on having (and raising) kids that way is a violation of the proper god's "code of lifestyle", and a trigger for trouble, catastrophe, karma, devine retribution or whatever we call it.. then Seth's wish to be a father in the human way would have to have been the first violation of Ra's warning, or trigger for karma, or whatever... and that's why Isis shifted her anger from Anubis to the four of them, who brought this on themselves (if Ra is to be believed) by yielding to their "human-like" yearnings.

Anyway, this would only make sense in an Asian webtoon, definitely. In the West, we usually put an intention over its effects, so we don't normally think much of this particular (but existent) interpretation of karma as in "all actions that come to harm others will give you karma, notwithstanding your original intention"

Responses
    sovrenn December 5, 2020 2:08 am

    oh wow this makes so much sense i would have never thought about that

    Jayjay December 5, 2020 2:20 am
    oh wow this makes so much sense i would have never thought about that sovrenn

    I thought of this because we always see it in Asian fiction, how someone being "too greedy" is never a good thing, and may get you some karma. Like it's a bad idea to "want more beyond what you're given or what you're supposed to have"... I see that phrase over and over and even when a character wants things that are perfectly understandable... That's why I thought, maybe that's also the whole point of Seth's "mistep": the four of them already had Egypt to rule all by themselves, yet he had to go and "become greedy" by asking for even more than that, even in spite of knowing (if he even did?) that this was going against Ra's warning.

    xielian_inlove December 5, 2020 2:22 am

    (⊙…⊙ ) omg this is so very interesting, ty for sharing your thoughts! lol i should be studying yet here i am reading ennead theories.
    in response to your initial question: yes why not, it makes sense to me. but that means this for sure goes WAY deeper than just the hotly commented ~rapist osiris + vengeful isis + madman seth + weak nepthy~ situation we see. this is adding a meta/cosmos level layer added to this story on to top of everything else.

    wow, is this intentional on behalf of mojito, or are we just reading way too deep into this? I am not familiar with any of their past works (if they have any others) so I'm not sure if they tend to go deep, or just dip in and out and stay in more mundane things like usual drama + well-drawn smut.

    Jayjay December 5, 2020 3:00 am
    (⊙…⊙ ) omg this is so very interesting, ty for sharing your thoughts! lol i should be studying yet here i am reading ennead theories.in response to your initial question: yes why not, it makes sense to me... xielian_inlove

    Yeah, I agree it sounds a bit too deep... but Horus' conversation with Anubis, Ra's "weird views" on the whole matter, as well as many other things in the story, would not make sense together, otherwise.

    All I see here, all the time, is a Buddhist-like mindset applied to the setting of the Egyptian mythologycal cosmos... (that is, if it doesn't turn out Egyptian mythology is more "Buddhist-like" than we ever imagined)... Mojito makes Horus say even stuff like Seth's and Anubis's attachment to each other is undermining their respective godly powers... That wordly attachments of this kind are typical of humans, (and therefore, gods should reject them). These are all typical Buddhist ideas, and since Buddhism is one of the popular religions in Korea, I can't help but think that this may be where the author's ideas are coming from.

    xielian_inlove December 5, 2020 4:44 pm

    "Buddhist-like mindset applied to the setting of the Egyptian mythologycal cosmos" what a clever thing to come to realize. i absolutely agree, it makes sense for a korean author to regard any myth with their own world viewpoint as baseline. it's like when people nowadays make their own version of the hades & persephone story and make sure to make persephone's consent super explicit (in original hades abducts and rapes her).