ummm i don’t really think that will apply in their situation i mean i don’t think the bottom is really into that kinda stuff clearly the top seems to so i don’t think having a safe word in their relationship would really matter is more about listening to what your partner is saying and being considerate of their feeling but their relationship is basically him paying his fathers debt aooo
I agree with you about them needing lesson for plays and safe words but it seems like theyre not fully developing trust toward each other at 100%.
I have a question about submission drop that you mention. Since SY arent aware of his tendency, can submission drop happen already? Like im not fully understanding about this.
Safe words are important and even vanillas should use them, but you’re right it’s not like they’re in a consenting/equal agreement anyway
oh yeah i totally agree with the safe word but they just are in a consensual one
you got a point but regardless the bottom was clearly uncomfortable and it was clear the top has feelings (sort of) for bottom and so he really shouldn't had pushed for the sex. but all-in-all it's what I observed. and yeah stop means stop so he really should had stop regardless if the bottom looks like his enjoying it. but thanks for ur opinion. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧(▰˘◡˘▰)
I'm not that knowledgeable of plays but from what I understood (I read the etiquette for BDSM to understand BJ Alex and point of three(?)), submissives can subdrop regardless if the top isn't aware of his tendency. cause subdrop is the feeling of overwhelming feeling (in this case its physical pleasure) and then they start feeling vulnerable and strange as well as confuse. normally the top in BDSM "experiment" the limits of there bottom and comfort them if it became overwhelming. that's the safest and normal way of learning your bottom's triggers. but in the case from the chapter the top really didn't know how to see the signs of subdrop (if that's the case in the chapter) and so he just BAM his way to pleasure. and because the bottom doesn't have the capability to communicate the situation got worse.
but if u really want to know how subdrop happens it's best to search on your own because my perspective of the topic might be different from ur understanding.
and if I'm wrong anyone can correct of course. I don't do BDSM and probably will never do it so it's really not my expertise.
This explanation is really good! I do a small amount of BDSM (I’m a rigger, so I tie people up) so I’ve seen sub drops happen to my friends and it can be really scary afterwards since they don’t usually remember anything.
i totally i agree with that but one thing that many bl authors do is exactly what happen it’s getting out of control the amount of stories that base their relationship with rape basically ,it’s always the same when they start their “relationship” but even if he said stop they aren’t even in a consensual relationship to start with considering he is using sex to pay his fathers debt if am not wrong and not just that but the bottom has a trauma because of the ex or whatever with the exact same thing rape
Thank you for appreciating my explanation
Am I the only one who thought he sub-dropped? The best thing that he could have done was to comfort him not go through sex. He was supposed to talk to him gently and make him feel assured and safe. Clearly he was scared and didn't understand he's feelings. As far as I know that's a sign of a submissive drop. They need a lesson for plays and a safe word, immediately.