Woah

yuxzoa January 20, 2021 3:37 pm

This makes so much sense- like from the beginning it was obvious that Yama was the one who planned it all/was responsible for what happened, and that 704 wasn’t at fault. But I could never understand why?? This explains a lot ;-; I feel so bad for him aghh

If anyone’s confused then rb with which part confuses you specifically and I’ll try my best to explain (pls don’t just say to explain vaguely cause idk where to start from ;^;)

Responses
    Bëanîn January 20, 2021 4:13 pm

    Why are we blaming 704 for anything and how is Yama involved?

    dgn January 20, 2021 4:19 pm

    Actually, I feel like I understood the main point, but I didn't understand Yama's role. I may have forgotten a little bit, I haven't been reading for a while. Can you explain a little about Yama's function? and San is the human rn right?

    January 20, 2021 4:42 pm
    Why are we blaming 704 for anything and how is Yama involved? Bëanîn

    I think it’s because before it seemed as if 704 made a mistake and San ended up in the underworld even tho he was not actually dead.

    Now in chap54 we see Yama give 704 a note that shows an “unaccounted death” and tells him that to go collect the soul. The note says that it’s been 10 hours and 704 says the soul might not be there anymore but Yama tells him to go anyways. They were already behind on the records so 704 didn’t question it and went.

    I guess this kinda shows Yama planned it? Because he knew that San had strong spiritual powers and that he was unique. San’s body can enter the underworld along with his soul whereas other humans’ souls would be forcibly separated with their bodies.

    yuxzoa January 20, 2021 5:09 pm
    Why are we blaming 704 for anything and how is Yama involved? Bëanîn

    Agree with person above ^!

    Basically in the previous chapter when Yama told 704 to pick up the soul from 10 hours ago, it hasn’t been confirmed yet, but it’s very likely that it was San. He knew about Geumsun’s plan to get to Hwan through San- though Yama was the one who orchestrated it all to begin with- and needed someone to bring San back to the Underworld since Geumsun couldn’t do it himself, as a goblin.

    Like Geumsun said, Yama already knew that San wouldn’t be killed (cause Geumsun wouldn’t be able to kill a human). Yama used Geumsun as a means to threaten or warn Hwan.

    Even though he knew that San was still alive, San was reported as dead, and Yama made sure that a reaper would come and get him (which was 704). Yama probably waited 10 hours so that 704 wouldn’t meet Geumsun there, in case he told him he was still alive.

    Because of that, 704 blamed himself for bringing San to the Underworld. He probably felt guilty that San lost all of his memories, and essentially any evidence that he had ever existed. The problem is that he wasn’t aware he was just being used by Yama :0

    Yama was basically the mastermind behind it all I guess- I don’t think he can leave the Underworld freely unlike Geumsun and 704, so he just used them.

    Also Geumsun never intended to implicate 704, so that’s what the ending of the recent chapter was about.

    Bëanîn January 20, 2021 5:24 pm
    I think it’s because before it seemed as if 704 made a mistake and San ended up in the underworld even tho he was not actually dead.Now in chap54 we see Yama give 704 a note that shows an “unaccounted death...

    Ahh i see now, thank you! :)

    yuxzoa January 20, 2021 5:26 pm
    Why are we blaming 704 for anything and how is Yama involved? Bëanîn

    Oh yeah and I think the reason 704 is involved is because San saw him? Cause Yama mentions that he is able to see through the shadow mask. It’s likely that the reason reapers (and goblins?) wear that so when they take a soul, the person can’t see their face- think of it like, a kidnapper killing an innocent witness cause they saw their face and might report to police

    yuxzoa January 20, 2021 5:31 pm
    Actually, I feel like I understood the main point, but I didn't understand Yama's role. I may have forgotten a little bit, I haven't been reading for a while. Can you explain a little about Yama's function? and... dgn

    Hmm to explain his ‘function’ is kind of hard, since that won’t become clear until it’s completed- but basically what he’s done is set the play into motion? He’s known as the god of death in Hinduism and Buddhism- that’s why he kind of resides over the Underworld in this. Hwan’s existence though, puts the Underworld into chaos because suddenly too many people are dying, they’re short of staff, and ‘unknown’ deaths are troublesome- he’s basically willing to do everything to get rid of Hwan. You can see he’s really bothered by the death records etc.

    If it weren’t for him, 704 probably wouldn’t have brought San to the Underworld, Geumsun probably wouldn’t have tried to hunt down Hwan through San, and San probably wouldn’t have become a ‘goblin’- I mean, he would’ve been eaten by Hwan, which would’ve been detrimental. Cause then Hwan would become powerful and mess up the death records even more. Yama prevented that, but he’s kinda manipulative to get what he wants. It’s not like 704 willingly agreed to get involved, for example.
    You can argue that what he’s doing is good, but then, he never explains what he’s doing- he tried to kill Hwan a third time, but to do that, he had to get MC alone by luring San away, which almost killed them both. He sees everyone as his tools cause, yknow, he’s a god- or king(?) idk what title they use in this.

    And yeah San is probably still a human at this point? Since his soul and body never separated. All that happened was that evidence of his existence disappeared. He was only disguised to look like a goblin, so if they removed it- like the symbols and everything- I think he’d still be human.

    dgn January 20, 2021 6:14 pm
    Hmm to explain his ‘function’ is kind of hard, since that won’t become clear until it’s completed- but basically what he’s done is set the play into motion? He’s known as the god of death in Hinduis... yuxzoa

    You explained very well, thank youu sm. Everything is clearer in my mind rn. Yama is not black or white in this story, I think gray. may be different. we'll wait and see.

    yuxzoa January 20, 2021 9:15 pm
    You explained very well, thank youu sm. Everything is clearer in my mind rn. Yama is not black or white in this story, I think gray. may be different. we'll wait and see. dgn

    Yess I agree- Geumsun is kind of morally grey too, though leaning more on ‘good’. I like those kinda characters haha but I lowkey resent Yama for gaslighting 704 *^*