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MilkyRose丂乇❀ January 24, 2021 12:00 pm

Holy crap there’s so much hate for the seme... I mean i get we’re your all coming from but damn... that was the past he was gonna let him break it off, though the Uke did just stay with him to not become like his dad. He did get feeling for the seme later on, and to the people saying he should just be with the fated mate no offense but, the hell? I get he’s probably better off cause he didn’t force him or anything but, dude... he knew they were mates and still tried to go in between them.. the uke even said he could trust him.. and the seme tried but he knew that the fated mate was.. well fated mate. That’s why he was so insecure.. I don’t know what else to say but, ima gonna just leave this here and hear your opinions... I love Asuza, I think he deserved better. He was desperate, he loved him.. yet he was getting treated like a tool, and getting used. He loved him his whole life..also at the end you could see him becoming miserable because he knows it would be better if the uke went with the fated mate...to people saying the seme is a jerk, he did one thing out of desperation and he becomes a jerk after that? He also give him a chance to leave him, though like I said he only came back out of spite to not become his dad. But seriously did you Klimt see the part we’re he said he needed him? And was lonely without him?? I can see he gained feeling in the earlier chapters, why can’t you? Just- ugh, like I said ima just leave this here and you can give me your opinion.. though nothing can change my mind...

Responses
    Aniel February 3, 2021 1:17 pm
    You must be a comedian. Did the author or Azusa say his grip was weak because he wasn't okay with the rape or was still tramatized by it? His grip was weak because he was traumatized and scared of his Alpha ins... Soti

    And I recommend reading this comment, the author interpreted the situation very clearly:
    "I I think the amount of people who are willing to give Azusa the benefit of the doubt is almost staggering. Though there’s an equally vocal group of people condemning him, I think it speaks to what a unique character he is that people find his actions defensible. I love the dude, but I can acknowledge that years of subjugation and over idealizing Kaede have probably knocked loose a few screws in this man’s head. The final scene where Kaede gets vulnerable and reveals that he doesn’t like having his sense of agency stripped from him by his “alpha”, Azusa’s declaration that he will “kill” that beast inside of him is extremely telling. Especially because he acknowledges that Kaede and his alpha are entwined, and the only way he can stay with Kaede is to master him. It’s not about being equals or trusting each other. Azusa simply knows that biology has got them fucked, so he’s willing to exert way more force (nearly to the point of violence) than what is normal for a typical relationship. I’ve noticed that throughout the relationship, Kaede is always put in positions that result in Azusa looking more or less like the victim, even though the narrative is completely different in actuality. Kaede was seen as a bad alpha because he didn’t want to buckle down and commit to a relationship that had been forced on him, and even now, when he’s had his control wrestled away from him by his own biology, Azusa forcing him to bite him puts Kaede in a situation where he’s being “unfaithful” and feels guilty for things he can’t change. It’s complicated, and I feel like while it is “just a BL”, the reactions of the community reading are just as interesting as the actual content."

    Aniel February 3, 2021 1:20 pm
    You must be a comedian. Did the author or Azusa say his grip was weak because he wasn't okay with the rape or was still tramatized by it? His grip was weak because he was traumatized and scared of his Alpha ins... Soti

    Seriously he is the only one? Kaesa can mate and bond with anyone else. So it's a bland lie. On the other hand Azusa can't mate or bond the second time. It's not like Auzsa is the only human being who could understand Kaeda's weakness and situation. Whats more he actually took advantage of Kaeda's instincts which he fears so much in the first place. So hypocrisy on the hardcore level.

    Soti February 3, 2021 2:20 pm
    The power imbalance in their relationship is mind breaking. Azusa isolated Kaeda from his friends and always painted Kaeda as the bad one, he isolated him from his potential lovers, he manipulated him into bond... Aniel

    Lol. Okay, you can stop crying now. Clearly, you are still stuck in your own bubble. What triggered Kaede’s trauma wasn’t even Azusa’s rape but the fact that he almost abandoned his mate, Azusa, whom he loves; to bite another Omega, whom he doesn’t love; simply because of a fated bond; just like his father did. THAT was what triggered his trauma in the latest chapter. That was why he told Azusa he didn’t want to ever go through that again. He is now leaning on Azusa to help him get over that trauma. Read the chapters again and understand it very well.

    Soti February 3, 2021 2:22 pm
    Seriously he is the only one? Kaesa can mate and bond with anyone else. So it's a bland lie. On the other hand Azusa can't mate or bond the second time. It's not like Auzsa is the only human being who could und... Aniel

    The only liar here is you. You keep lying to yourself. YES! Azusa is the only one that can love Kaede unconditionally like he is doing right now. Even his fated pair doesn’t love him that and can never! So what exactly is the issue here? You act like you and Azusa are rivals in love or something.

    Aniel February 3, 2021 2:24 pm
    Lol. Okay, you can stop crying now. Clearly, you are still stuck in your own bubble. What triggered Kaede’s trauma wasn’t even Azusa’s rape but the fact that he almost abandoned his mate, Azusa, whom he l... Soti

    Lmfao I've never said that the rape triggered trauma. I said the trauma was one of the main reasons why he "chose" to stay with Azusa. You are in the bubble if you think it's sweet love, not some toxic copying mechanism. I was talking about the first part of the story.
    And Azusa is a hypocrite because he was the first one who used Kaeda's instincts against him.

    Aniel February 3, 2021 2:26 pm
    The only liar here is you. You keep lying to yourself. YES! Azusa is the only one that can love Kaede unconditionally like he is doing right now. Even his fated pair doesn’t love him that and can never! So wh... Soti

    No, I'm just saying that Azusa is toxic,abusive and manipulative rapist :) that simple
    Who is possessive and obsessed.
    It's typical manipulative mechanism to make someone believe that "you are the only one who can love them,help them" etc. Did you even read the story?

    Aniel February 3, 2021 2:28 pm
    The only liar here is you. You keep lying to yourself. YES! Azusa is the only one that can love Kaede unconditionally like he is doing right now. Even his fated pair doesn’t love him that and can never! So wh... Soti

    And no there are billions people out there. Kaeda could find other people who would come to love him and understand him...
    What is that logic even that Azusa is the only one?

    Ruisha February 3, 2021 5:34 pm
    The power imbalance in their relationship is mind breaking. Azusa isolated Kaeda from his friends and always painted Kaeda as the bad one, he isolated him from his potential lovers, he manipulated him into bond... Aniel

    I dont get you. Just what is it youre trying to point at? Azusa is a manipulative and obsessed person then what about it? Just what do you want to happen? You keep repeating it over and over again. You want them to separate? Thats why i told you to gtfo because thats not gonna happen.

    Aniel February 3, 2021 6:33 pm
    I dont get you. Just what is it youre trying to point at? Azusa is a manipulative and obsessed person then what about it? Just what do you want to happen? You keep repeating it over and over again. You want the... Ruisha

    Why so angry? I just disagree with some readers' interpretation of characters and some threads of the story and explain my own side. You can't discuss pov and compare them with other readers? Idk what YOU want to achieve? People with other insight should be banned? They don't have right to speak their mind? What's the point of comment sections then?

    Of course they will stay together but we should acknowledge their relationship is definitely unhealthy/toxic at places and Azusa is obsessive and manipulative.

    gTfO and stfu are so mature :")

    Soti February 3, 2021 7:55 pm
    And no there are billions people out there. Kaeda could find other people who would come to love him and understand him... What is that logic even that Azusa is the only one? Aniel

    Loool! Just look at this absurd reasoning. If his own fated pair can't love him like that, who else will but Azusa? Or are you the volunteering yourself to love him? Are you Azusa's rival in love? I'm starting to think you are.

    Soti February 3, 2021 7:57 pm
    Lmfao I've never said that the rape triggered trauma. I said the trauma was one of the main reasons why he "chose" to stay with Azusa. You are in the bubble if you think it's sweet love, not some toxic copying ... Aniel

    You aren't making much sense. If his trauma is the reason why he is holding onto Azusa, why is he still relying on him to save him from his instincts? You are yet to tell us your real problem with Azusa.

    Soti February 3, 2021 7:58 pm
    Why so angry? I just disagree with some readers' interpretation of characters and some threads of the story and explain my own side. You can't discuss pov and compare them with other readers? Idk what YOU want ... Aniel

    You are not comparing your POV with others, you are projecting your hate onto a character that doesn't even deserve that much hate from you or anyone. He is gonna end up with Kaede and Kaede loves him. You keep denying it but that's a fact.

    Aniel February 3, 2021 8:09 pm
    You are not comparing your POV with others, you are projecting your hate onto a character that doesn't even deserve that much hate from you or anyone. He is gonna end up with Kaede and Kaede loves him. You keep... Soti

    I've never denied that they will end up together. Never. I've just acknowledged that their relationship is toxic and unhealthy at places and Azusa is definitely obsessed. It's not projecting, it's literally in the story. And that the important factors that brought them together was guilt, responsibility from Kaeda's side and some weird obsession which lasted years from Azusa's side.
    Azusa is a rapist. Who manipulated someone into bond. He deserves spiteful words. That for sure. As every sexual abuser out there.
    Kaeda's a victim of rape. He could have developed some feelings for Azusa with time but once again a very important factor why he returned to Azusa was guilt , triggered trauma associated with his mother and responsibility. And copying mechanism is also an important part and Azusa helped him with the process by putting him in the place that both of his choices were hard, that he used words like: "I'm the only one who..." Which is typical mechanism abusers use to make the other party even more tied to them etc.

    Soti February 3, 2021 8:12 pm
    I've never denied that they will end up together. Never. I've just acknowledged that their relationship is toxic and unhealthy at places and Azusa is definitely obsessed. It's not projecting, it's literally in ... Aniel

    Okay. But you admit that Kaede is fine being with Azusa and he loves him, right? They both love each other, right?

    Aniel February 3, 2021 8:24 pm
    Okay. But you admit that Kaede is fine being with Azusa and he loves him, right? They both love each other, right? Soti

    Idk. Can victim of rape and manipulation who wasn't even into men in the first place love Azusa? Is that some twisted love? Is that some sort of copying mechanism because he wants to take responsibility? Even on p23 of the newest chap he shakes off Azusa's hand from his face but Azusa gripped Kaeda's hand firmly.
    Azusa's feelings be it love, be it some weird toxic obsession look much stronger that Kaeda's. Kaeda is unsure, he looks confused,he thinks about his mother. I think at some point he started genuinely care about Azusa...but once again is that love? He started enjoying sex too but I can't say it is a pure love or some twisted copying mechanism which kicked in so he can deal with the situation and live more or less peacefully.

    Soti February 3, 2021 8:29 pm
    Idk. Can victim of rape and manipulation who wasn't even into men in the first place love Azusa? Is that some twisted love? Is that some sort of copying mechanism because he wants to take responsibility? Even o... Aniel

    Looooool! He shook off Azusa's hand from his face? That is what you saw? That is how you interpreted that scene? What the fuck are you even saying? Nah, no way you're not being exasperating on purpose. Nobody can be able to reason like this and be serious about it. This must be some absurd joke.

    Aniel February 3, 2021 8:35 pm
    Looooool! He shook off Azusa's hand from his face? That is what you saw? That is how you interpreted that scene? What the fuck are you even saying? Nah, no way you're not being exasperating on purpose. Nobody c... Soti

    That's literally what you took from my whole answer? Kaeda is unsure and uneasy in this scene. He is still shaken up. And here we have Azusa smiling madly and talking about KILLING the beast in Kaesa every time. But that's not the point. The one who most of the time initiates and pushes is Azusa.

    Aniel February 3, 2021 8:37 pm
    Looooool! He shook off Azusa's hand from his face? That is what you saw? That is how you interpreted that scene? What the fuck are you even saying? Nah, no way you're not being exasperating on purpose. Nobody c... Soti

    It's rather questionable that you don't see many red flags going in their relationship.

    Soti February 3, 2021 8:41 pm
    That's literally what you took from my whole answer? Kaeda is unsure and uneasy in this scene. He is still shaken up. And here we have Azusa smiling madly and talking about KILLING the beast in Kaesa every time... Aniel

    At this point you are writing your own story in your head to suit your narrative. Kaede is shaken up by what happened because of the way his instincts kicked in and he reacted to his fated pair; eventhough he didn't want it. Azusa said he will help him by being there for him to make sure he doesn't go overboard like he did earlier and also kill the beast within him (his Aplha instincts); and that is what you have a problem with? Him being there as a support for his lover? Seriously? Okay, what do you make of Kaede being distraught at seeing Azusa lying on the hospital bed or the way he jumped to hug him when he came to? Is that also Azusa manipulating Kaede to be worried for him and show him love?

    Aniel February 3, 2021 8:46 pm
    At this point you are writing your own story in your head to suit your narrative. Kaede is shaken up by what happened because of the way his instincts kicked in and he reacted to his fated pair; eventhough he d... Soti

    Jfc. You are being so fuckin slow.
    I've never denied any of this things. Never.
    You are making it as if Azusa was making it all for Kaeda and not also for himself. How naive you can be? Azusa saying these things is RIDICULOUS because he was the first one who took advantage of Kaeda's instincts. It's disgusting hypocrisy.

    I've never said anything about Azusa losing consciousness. But there were many scenes where he manipulated him through the story. He even said Kaeda is really naive.