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Rare wise words from a fujoshi, respect.

its because siwon cares for jinha......thats why he never gives up,and he remembers everything....jinha is being all mean to siwon because siwon did some bad things to jinha...but siwon saw the past,and finally understands..

i seriously don't see them as lovers just really gay best friends basically free!

well,atleast be considerate cause some people here have different opinions.

I agree with you completely, we all have different point of views

me too.. even if they end up together I don't think it would be a healthy relationship. At least not until Jinha learns how to be more considerate and stops playing the victim

that just proves that siwon is being more mature than jinha is. Jinha is being mean to Siwon because Siwon didn't remember him (which is pretty reasonable because some people's face changes over the years), and then he overheard Siwon talking to his friend and jumped to conclusions that Siwon hates gay people.. oh and never forget that he took advantage of siwon once, of course anyone would be pissed. At least Siwon is mature enough to attempt to fix their broken friendship. But all Jinha does is pitying himself

I'm partly, only partly agree with you on this. Why are ppl getting mad about siwon and keep dissing on him while he does nothing wrong? He was drunk at that time and he has been trying to explain and saying sorry over and over again.
But personally I don't think Jinha is trying to play the victim or anything, I think he gets it, the fact that siwon didn't remember him is completely acceptable for him. but maybe it is just too painful, to know that the person he has always loved for more than 10 years didn't have any memory and feelings towards him at all.
I believe Jinha just wants to avoid siwon for some time to recover and heal his broken heart (by not seeing his face and by meeting up with new ppl). By doing these things, Jinha is trying to give up on Siwon, not because he actually thinks it is siwon's fault.

agreed.

yeah but he wasn't really gentle about it. I know he was trying to give up on siwon but surely acting civil wouldn't hurt, right? Or he could've said "Sorry please don't talk to me for a while I needed space" and be done with it. Siwon would probably understand. And it's not like Jinha was completely without fault. Did he ever apologize for taking advantage of Siwon? I'm pretty sure he didn't. He got angry instead at siwon for not 'remembering' it. You know this heartache could've been avoided if Jinha just sucked it up and re-intoduced himself to Siwon from the start

Jinha didn't know Siwon was that type of person who forgot everything after being drunk so it can't be considered as taking advantage. Taking advantage is when you know for sure they can't discover the truth afterwards so you did the crime, but Jinha on the other hand, thought Siwon was aware of the situation and even became shocked when discovered the truth (that Siwon couldn't remember him) remember?
And yeah he could just have said gently "please don't talk to me I need space" or sth like that and reintroduce himself to SW, but from what we've learnt, that totally is not his personality at all. I know his high ego is a weakness, but nobody is perfect. For me, that reason only is a little bit too weak to say Jinha does not deserve Siwon.

actually it's still considered taking advantage .. when you're drunk you have no control over yourself, that means you have no ability to give proper consent. When you're drunk you're not your real self. It doesn't matter even if Siwon remembered afterwards. It's still considered a violation without consent. Jinha should've known that at the very least. That's why he should've apologized. And yeah I know his high ego is his biggest problem.. that's why I don't think he's suitable for Siwon, not until he learns to be more considerate and mature. The Jinha right now is too fragile for Siwon.

I think so too

That's true but that doesn't mean that he should be an asshole too and talk like he doesn't want to give him a chance, cuz he's gay??
tho i agree that both are assholes.
but still i feel sad for Jinha... his life is miserable, after all.

siwon shouldn't be so much of a homophobe ass abt jinha's feelings, but to be fair, if someone's straight, they're not gonna wanna suddenly give someone of the same sex a chance if they're interested in the opposite sex, even if this is shounen-ai

yes I understand that Jinha's life is so miserable but that doesn't excuse his actions. Also Siwon is not obligated to give Jinha a "chance".. he has the right to date whoever he likes. And no I don't think he didn't want to give Jinha a chance because he's homophobic.. how can he do it when Jinha has been anything but nice to him? Jinha didn't even treat him as a friend, so..

Well, you both are right. But he clearly said (you selfish "gay" bastard) if he said (you selfish bastard) i would've accepted it. But just like Nisiro said, he's straight and that's a normal response. But still it's painful to read since you know how good of a friends they were...

hmmmm did you miss the part where siwon agreed with his friend that being gay is freaky and gross?? That was before he was going to tell him who he was..he already felt defeated. and anagry...to be fair Kang Jun wasn't the nicest person to him..true...but Siwon was also super disrespectful..i don't think he's really being a drama queen but acting out cause he was hurt not b/c of what happened in his childhood

Yeah Siwon did say that, but it's not like he knew that Jinha was gay, right? I'm sure if he knew, he wouldn't have said it was freaky in front of him. And also it seemed as if he only agreed with his friend because he didn't know what else to say. It may be true he doesn't agree with the gay lifestyle but he surely doesn't hate them as much as his friend does.
Also, just because he said that doesn't give Jinha the right to be a dick to him. Don't get me wrong, I love Jinha and I feel very bad for him, but he keeps blaming Siwon for things he didn't really have control over.

That's what the f@ck I've been saying

I thought it was obvious that Siwon agreed to it only because he had to? It's not like he knew Jinha was there... or if Jinha was gay. Jinha was being a drama queen for no reason. I know he was hurt but it's not fair to put the blame on Siwon. He keeps blaming Siwon for not remembering him when he could've just said, "Hey Siwon! I'm Kang Jun, remember me?" but nooo he chose to be passive-aggressive and pretty much being a major asshole. And he even blamed Siwon for not remembering what was happening when he was drunk... like wtf it should be Siwon who's furious at him. Jinha took advantage of him when he was fucking drunk and had the nerve to get offended when Siwon didn't remember. If I were Siwon I would've kicked his dick so hard

it really isnt. i really wanna know what his problem is

ikr its getting annoying now all of them are getting annoying(╯°Д °)╯╧╧

Ugh Ikr.... the red haired girl was too much of a tsundere (not to mention abusive), the girl from the dojo was quite abusive too (and annoying).. the pink haired witch was making me uncomfortable.. and the sick girl was too innocent and bland (though she's quite forgiven for that, given her condition). Well all of them are pretty bland actually. Can we have a decent female character who's not desperate for the MC's dick, please...?

At this rate I don't even care if it's shounen or shounen-ai I just want the harem to STOP

lol I rooted for sun il since the start at this point idc what happens to the others I just want sun il to take his man from those girls(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ I also feel like theres also too much explaning and i think the author wants to give small comic relief breaks to the readers but and after all its shounen so its become a norm for these to have many pairs of big boobs and small ones too...for diversity?idk lol .but I think that I can pass for thethe pink haired wich because shes strong and helped jeehan a bit but the others are completely useless

I rooted for sun il too but I really doubt they will ever end up together... this is a shounen manhwa after all :/ Wellyou don't have to resort to harem and ecchi to make the story "good" ... Seriously, get rid of those and the manhwa would be perfect. Or if you really have to resort to harem at least make the female characters likeable... not these abusive/annoying/horny/boring big chested girls -_____- Well the pink haired witch was pretty useful but she's really creepy.. though at least she's better than the red haired girl, she's annoying af

haha youre right hes so concerned for jeehan and the affection when jeehan observed sun il kinda got my hopes up

I grew to not hate him eventually. I'll never forgive him and think he's scummy, but I don't hate him.

agreed