TBH I liked the ending from the raws. I wish it was less open-ended, sure, and it’s… like, really depressing. But I think it’s logical based on the world built and the character’s stories.
So the kid’s probably dead, the dad is hiding it because iirc zombies are reanimated dead in this universe (instead of spreading thru like bite or something), and that’s gonna cause a problem.
Wonder about twins. Like they are behavior normally while they have zombie at home
Man it’s really weird to go back to a work I read forever ago and just seeing now how dark it actually is. That psychological tag is putting in work.
I wonder if the usage of a clownfish to represent the MC's penis was intentional. I feel like it must be, because they call his masculinity into question and talk about becoming a man.
"The girls don't treat him like a man." "But this is practice in order to become a true man."
Clownfish are a species that exhibits sequential hermaphroditism - basically where some males will mature into females if a female isn't present.
Looking at that in a less exact way and more-so "male clownfish becomes female clownfish" way, the story follows the same beats you see in many stories that involve the male character being feminized, "bitched" (not in the omegaverse way here, but that is still applicable), or sluttified. He gets his nipples played with, the top compares his chest to a "flat chested character" in a game he likes (implying a flat chested woman), then there's prostate play and anal sex (rape) and squirting. Despite him declaring that he's "like a man" for fighting and liking sports, the story ends with him shaving off his pubic hair, using a vibrator, and putting band-aids on his nipples.
To me, and I'm over analyzing this for a story I don't even really like, I wonder if the clownfish is supposed to portray a midway point where the MC will either "become" a "man" or won't, and while he's under the impression that he "became" a man, the ending implies that, no, he didn't?
I've put too much thought into this now.
I’m going to lose a year off my life every time I see someone say that Ash is the greenest of flags. I am begging you to reread the end of the main story.
How are we forgetting that Ash showed that he was in control of his actions and thoughts during his rut (in the conversations after his rut). He said he had no regrets knotting Lyle and that he meant everything that he said that Lyle found degrading and hurtful. He was aware enough to understand what he was saying and thinking and doing.
This means we know he was aware enough to know that Lyle was crying, begging him to stop, screaming no, that he was in pain. He was aware enough to know that he fucked Lyle unconscious several times.
Anyways this is a shame bcus spanking (and punishment) is my main kink and I get so excited every time it’s depicted, but unfortunately this is the second scene in the story that triggered me (the first only triggered me on reread, as I wasn’t a survivor the first time I read it) so I can’t enjoy it.
(The rut scene didn’t trigger me, I just found it disturbing.)
I like to finish stories even if I don’t like them. It’s kind of a thing with me. There’s like, only 3 chapters left or something, debating whether or not to see it through to the end.
IDK.
True ee but karlyle himself admit that he is into it soo I can't complaint
…after the brutal rut scene at the end of the main story I cannot see this going well
idk like not to be an asshole, i understand why ppl find this hot, but i’m begging y’all to stop calling ash a green flag when he does shit like this.
I have a feeling he is literally going to just sleep in the same bed but still!!! Progress!!!!!!
I’m curious where his memory starts like. Does it start when we see him in the prologue? Bcus he remembered enough to be like “I’ve always wanted to live in a house like this!”
For people who read the novel:
I really don't wanna go through and look myself since the novel is so much more brutal. I'm just curious, does the whole, Jiwook making a joke about suicide that happened this chapter (26) and Jiyeon freaking out and getting upset, happen in the novel? TY ^^
ok i lied i looked on my own.
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a few small differences.
Jiwook says like, "okay yeah that was a bit too much" almost immediately after seeing Jiwook freak out (as opposed to saying no after being asked).
After Jiwook confirms he wasn't being serious, Juyeon pushes Jiwook away from him roughly when he had been gripping Jiwook's shoulders, where here we don't see him let go of the shoulders, he just goes from holding onto the shoulder to not holding onto the shoulders.
What I found interesting (Assuming it just wasn't a translation error in the novel version I read) - Juyeon ran a hand over his own face (like in frustration) in the novel, but here he rubs his hand against Jiwook's face?
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IDK why does this matter? Bcus I'm wondering/hoping the ending is at least slightly softer than the novels...
I keep on seeing that the novel readers says that the manhwa is more "softer" than the novel, so mayybbeee there's a chance the ending will be different. Which I hope so because some stuff I've read breaks my heart but at the same time I hope it ends similar to the novel
now that we’re beginning to see some (albeit very mild) canon divergence from the novel to the manhwa i wonder if theyre still gonna use the no love trope from the og at the end or if itll develop into some kind of feelings between them... chances are low esp since its rapist/victim but it would be nice to see since juyeon looks like he almost cares abt jiwook rn opposed to the novel scene lol
Actually where we can read the novel
https://lilyonthevalley.com
It's called "Empathy" on there, I believe. Also, yeah, if I remember correctly, he did freak out when Jiwook mentioned suicide.