Minnie's Topics (275)

I'm so sorry. I meant to upvote! He's a cutie pie!

Don’t sweat it

yes, please stop having an accidental re-upload while giving us all your free time and effort for our enjoyment.

Lamo, so u think u’re throwin’ shade at me??
someone ALREADY gave their time, effort, and money to upload everything ON TIME ..
so the least people can do is RESPECT that and NOT REUPLOAD their stuff

I think she thought you meant you were angry at the translator for the accidental re-upload, the re-upload usually gets done by bots and I think yall misunderstood each other ╮(￣▽￣)╭

If that them i’m sorryyy

Because he was? Would you forgive the person who send people to rape, torture and kill your pregnant significant other? I would have done the same.

Nah

He didn't want them to rape him bruh...

No one said anything about forgiveness I think you’re forgetting that Aeroc didn’t mean for Rafaiel to die and it was an accident, although I don’t think Kloff knew/believed him which is fair game. Still, I don’t think expecting him not to rape and forcibly impregnated Aeroc until he died is too much to ask for. You are such an odd individual for defending Kloff after everything he did in the first lifetime

If you send criminals to do bad things do you think they'll stop easly? Kloff is insane himself, but aeroc isn't that much better since he started everything.

I think ur heavily missing the entire point of the first season. First of all, NONE of this would have happened if 1st TL kloff didn't have such a big ego and sooo much pride. That's what's diff about 2nd TL Kloff, he set aside his pride and ego and now he can live a life with who he TRULY wants: Aeroc. 1 TL Kloff wanted aeroc but his ego about alpha x alpha turned himself away from aeroc and he started flaunting around rapheal to Aeroc as if "if i can't be happy neither can u". Then when Aeroc slips up by retaliating all the bullying KLOFF initiated this terrible thing to rapheal happens (when he just wanted to take it out on kloff by "scaring" rapheal).Is what Aeroc did to rapheal (sending ppl to scare him) right? No. But is Kloff's bullying, scamming, and intentional graping of aeroc a way to make aeroc pay for something involuntary HELL NAH! Kloff cannot proclaim to be the victim if he was the reason all this started in the first place and the fact that u said "I would have done the same" is so effing disgusting

He didn’t ask them to sexually assault or torture him! He just wanted them to push him so he’d lose the baby!!
I honestly can’t wrap my head around how anyone could justify Kloff’s brutal crimes against Areoc!!!

finally, girl, someone who actually gets what happened!! he WANTED Aeroc from the very beginning!

If you claim 1st TL Aeroc as the villain then I’ll claim Kloff as the PURE EVIL… girl 1st TL KLOFF WAS THE DEVIL himself !!

exactly.. defending kloff is insane behavior, actually

I mean would you impregnate and rape the person who “killed” your lover? Lmao, he used that whole situation to get what he wanted, aeroc. Normal people would just kill aeroc, but kloff gave in to his true desire.

What aeroc did was wrong, no one negates that. But the novel heavily insinuates fated pairs, imagine being areroc seeing the man ur destined with be with another omega. It would make a person go insane.

Now I completely agree, what aeroc did was wrong. And he knows this. In his death he brought up how this is what Raphael must have went through, he let kloff do whatever he wanted because of his guilt for Raphael, he even forgives kloff for everything because he knows he killed his pregnant omega.

Aeroc reflected what he did, kloff did not.

OFFICERS ITS THIS ONE OFFICERS

Never said he was sane but let's be real, if you send people to beat someone PREGNANT, someone who really did nothing to you just because he snatched your man in your thoughts, you tr more evil than someone who is insane.
Kloff is insane, aeroc tho took this upon himself, the only real victim was Rapiel in all this, who did nothing and died while pregnant.

And I agree with all this, but many people still defend Aeroc like a victim, he redempted himself, he was not insane.
Kloff is completely ouf of his mind with almost anything from what we can see from the manhwa, i haven't read the novel but yeah, I think anyone can see that kloff is insane.

The point is, it's not right that Kloff went full on rampage on Aeroc in their first life, at the same time tho Aeroc did a very bad thing since, compared to kloff, he is more composed and that choice to hurt another human being was calculated. Was the punishiment after deserved? No, ofc Kloff is straight up insane and its not that different in his 2nd life, Aeroc on the other side had his redemption and this translated in his new life.

Aeroc is a victim, he was raped, tortured, starved, had his children taken away, had a shit ton of miscarriages during his time in the slums, homeless, and lived in a damn shed. Aeroc has gone through absolute hell.

This is more so up to the reader, since it’s very opinionated, but in my opinion no aeroc is not more evil than kloff. Yes aeroc messed up by ordering those men to scare off Raphael, not realizing the repercussions, but compared to everything I said above? Are you seriously saying that was more evil than kloff raping and torturing someone? Aeroc had a moment of desperation since his fated pair got with someone else, so he sent people to scare off Raphael. Kloff doing all these horrible disgusting things to aeroc was not due to insanity, he justified all his actions very meticulously, even getting Martha on board with the torture.

The only time kloff was insane is when aeroc died.

Not to mention how torturous and traumatic his pregnancies were, there’s a reason everyone calls aeroc a victim.

IKR?! He WANTED AEROC FROM THE VERY BEGINNING!!

then he went and fulfilled his twisted obsession and desire in THE MOST MESSED-UP WAY POSSIBLE
he was too damn proud to admit he wanted to be with another Alpha, so he started hating him instead!! then when his so-called “mate” or let’s say spouse died, he forced Aeroc into becoming an OMEGA just so HE COULD FINALLY LIVE OUT HIS SICK FANTASY— all under the excuse of “revenge” and “hatred”
he LOVED him the whole damn time, but he was insane, arrogant, and too damn stupid to realize it :(( and that’s horrible

Indeed

Gurrlll, that line “you’re more evil than someone who’s insane” just proves my point — you keep acting like Aeroc was the villain when he was actually the victim most of the time!! Like, hello?? Kloff wasn’t just his “fated partner” in his imagination/thoughts as u say, he actually was! from the very beginning, Aeroc was Kloff’s victim — this arrogant idiot couldn’t handle the fact that he was attracted, both physically n emotionally, to another Alpha, so he started hating him instead! then he went and got engaged to someone who looked exactly like Aeroc just to mess with him, saying he’d “make him into an omega version” he literally bullied him, called him a pervert and sick just cos he wanted another Alpha!!

and then, to make it worse, he started showing off that omega everywhere — at parties, in front of Aeroc’s face, even in his own damn house!! ALL just TORTURE him and fight his own OBSESSION with Aeroc

when Aeroc finally had enough and decided to make him feel some loss — to scare ‘em, not actually hurt his spouse — things went wrong…HE MADE A HORRIBLE MISTAKE, YES, but it wasn’t planned or intentional! he regretted it the second it happened and even tried to save Rapiel, but it was already too late!

then that psycho Kloff turned around n impregnated him, stole his children, made him live in misery and poverty, beat him up on the streets, left him bleeding out and half-dead from miscarriages n assaults, and when Aeroc finally saw his child again — Kloff kidnapped him, kept abusing him, raped him, and tortured him every day!

GURLLL, PLSS.. enough with the “Kloff and his spouse were the real victim” nonsense
Aeroc was a victim too, just like Rapiel. Both of them suffered cos of that arrogant, deranged monster Kloff — in 1st TL

couldn’t agree more

In all this, i never said Kloff was a victim IN ANY WAY
I literally said that Rapiel was the real innocent victim.
I said multiple times that Kloff is insane, I hate him with all my heart but i can't even bring myself to say that Aeroc is innocent, he is a victim of Kloff but a murdered himself, even if he went ona redemption arc.

Never
Said
That
Kloff
Is
Innocent
He is not

it’s ofc up to you how to explain the situation, but i still insist that Aeroc was Kloff’s FIRST VICTIM, and that he was the REAL VICTOM all along… just like Rapiel

Exactly man... It was a horrible mistake. He repented like hell for it. He was forced into prostitution, starved, raped again and again. And he died a horrible death

Yep, and the ironic part is, none of it was for Raphael. Just his sick twisted fantasy on forcing aeroc to be an omega. He married Raphael for convenience and it shows.

yep.. :((( my poor Aeroc

IMO, only married Raphael to live out his messed-up fantasy .. pretending he was with an omega version of Aeroc, the guy he’d always been obsessed with, wanted in every way, body and soul :)
when he lost Aeroc, he completely lost whatever was left of his sanity; not because he loved Raphael or saw him as some kind of soulmate, but because he lost the omega version of Aeroc that used to feed his delusions and keep his twisted urges quiet if u get what i mean
that’s why he got so damn fixated on forcing Aeroc to become an omega .. he’d already lost the one that existed in Raphael, and he couldn’t stand not having it again!!

so he MASKED IT ALL behind REVENGE and HATE, trying to convince himself it was abt payback when, really, it was just his sick OBSESSION and HUNGER for Aeroc eating him alive

sorry i mean when he lost Rapheal*

no youre mixing this up, kloff became the villain later on but this all happend because of AEROC he was was unable to let kloff go, hes clearly an unreliable narrator as when perspectives switch between him and kloff you can see he isnt trying to kindly reach out to kloff hes belittling him and he tries to humilate even raphiel when looking at raphiels injuries, he only gets scammed of the money AFTER the death we know this because in the 2nd timeline hes already set to ruin clearly with our without kloffs help because he doesnt know how to work money. aeroc is a noble- his ignorance is clear when he pays people to punish a pregnant omega and then is shook when he gets raped then he states 'its not my fault i didnt know'' like it doesnt work like that raphiel knew nothing and did nothing wrong but suffered and aeroc doesnt even try to make amends right in any form even when he realises kloff knows its him who killed raphiel, plus we even know aeroc had a second change to save raphiel when he sees the scene beginning through his carriage. kloff takes it to far by his repeated disgusting punishments and hence the idea of him being in purgatory, he carries sin on his hands too but its insane to say 'oh yeah your omega got raped when pregnant all because you didnt want to get with a guy you thought was looking down on you the whole time' . theyre both evil but kloff just desends into monster

like i really believe kloff by the end was genuinely devil reincarnate because of his intentional actions genuinely another level of depraved he deserved hell , and i truly cried for aeroc because his ignorance in the whole matter doomed him and he went through so much in the name of him repenting but we know this because we get to see aerocs pain and his thoughts while kloff sees a man who doesnt cry no matter what , it just feels wrong to try and say its kloffs fault it all started

Both of them couldn’t let go. You already pointed out why Aeroc is wrong. So I’ll proceed with why Kloff is also wrong. He didn’t have to keep attending those events… worst of all he didn’t need to drag Rapiel with him. You know this Count likes you… if you truly love or at least care about your wife.. you’d take yourselves out of that mess. And honestly Kloff started the humiliation by rejecting Aeroc the worst possible way… you can turn down someone, but to call them swine? He enjoyed it.. he enjoyed getting into Aeroc’s skin. He hated how Aeroc never had a lot of emotions.

What irks me about Kloff is after Vol 1-2 you get this tiny pieces of why things happen. He describes his future marriage with Rapiel as peaceful.. to the point of being dull. So… it clicks. He made his marriage into this game to piss Aeroc… (the fact he keeps dragging Rapiel everywhere to kiss him.. to show him off.. that was just evil.)

Im not excusing what Aeroc did… but imagine being inside a pressure cooker that’s basically what Kloff did. He made Aeroc feel inferior because he couldn’t be loved. Aeroc ultimately exploded and I hate it… and Rapiel had to pay for that.. and Aeroc committed the one wrong thing is his life… when it was Kloff who instigated things.

Why couldn’t Kloff just be happy with Rapiel!? Why did he want his cake and eat it too?

Exactly! I said something with the same meaning above

He really is which is why vol 5 is really an eye opener for kloff… he realized it was really his inferiority complex and doing why Aeroc became a devil. He was projecting a lot of things to Aeroc…

you are very articulate thank you for the response, made me realise that aspect too

Totally

Exactly! fuck Kloff! idk why it even needs to be debated. He's the spawn of the fucking devil imo.
What Aaroc did was absolutely wrong yes, but its something he did in a moment of weakness and lapse of judgment, influenced by emotions that Kloff purposely caused!! Aeroc didn't mean for Rapiel to die.. he himself was also mortified by what happened. Everything Kloff did was INTENTIONAL! for his own ego and out of spite! that's the fcking difference! Kloff caused everything!!!!! and then he had the audacity to play victim. locked Aeroc up, starved and raped him for years, impregnated him and treated him like a cum rag.. treated him worse than you would an animal.. FOR YEARS!!

Happy to help. Reading the novel a few times really opens your eyes about Kloff’s part in this hell which people don’t see immediately… it’s understandable because Aeroc did kill Rapiel so he is the more despicable person in a lot of people’s eyes. He does demonized himself throughout the novel painting Kloff as the unfortunate husband.

Like you said… Aeroc is an unreliable narrator, he seems to be humiliating Kloff on purpose in book 1. But reading book 5 Aeroc isn’t really a terrible person, he retaliates to humiliation but he tries not to go overboard.
Kloff kept pushing him on the edge of this book 5… but a lot of his comebacks were childish and sounds like provocation.. but Aeroc just doesn’t know how to handle his emotions and outbursts really well. When Kloff made him feel small again, his answer was to just get it over and have sex in a brothel (he doesn’t think.. because he keeps everything bottled inside. He realizes it’s stupid.) you see them both in their no-memories counterpart.. and honestly Aeroc’s V5 makes me sad. He could have lived a better life without meeting an asshole like Kloff.. even Kloff realizes.

Unlike Kloff Vol 2 who tried using Rapiel as a tool… to feel normal about liking an alpha. Who punishes that alpha because of his disgust… even in vol 2 how he humiliates Aeroc for being this dumb blonde at investments or because Aeroc was talking to other alpha. Kloff needed to take out his frustration… and you see why book 1/s1 is a mess

He is despicable… thank you fanfiction that Aeroc has other choices than that scumbag