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abuse and rape is what’s BORRINGGGGG

What i think would actually be interesting is having a manwha with depth, morally grey characters and dark plot without it being a glorified overly toxic relationship. That sort of storyline is quite possible but very rarely done. That would be more interesting than the author using abuse as a plot device don’t you think?

YES YES YES

abuse and rape is what makes a plot interesting to me i get bored otherwise

You're a weirdo

literally

youll live

Yeah ur name makes sense now. Genuinely get help. Abuse and rape should not make u feel interested in a story

well it does fluff bores me and ive always like darker themes theres nothing wrong with that

Weird ass

Hope you'll find peace and love someday

Wait until it happens to you LMAO

the fact that you genuinely don’t see the issue is mind boggling. I’m tempted to ask how old you are but i doubt you’d admit it honestly, but i can tell you’re young.

But listen, almost everyone who uses this website is a freak of some kind, and i’m sure almost everyone who’s replied to you before has read some dark shit. Which is why i think you really need to grasp that if there’s multiple weirdos telling you that YOU are weird, then there’s an issue and something is in fact wrong.

PFFT well said :))

They most likely have very serious underlying issu (not a diss, just medical fact) OR they had issues from a serious past/history. I realize a lot of people who a desensitized to this/get boredom otherwise have a serious reason. They will prob not seek help from comments under a page that promotes abuse in stories.

have u ever considered the fact that none of this is real? its all fiction and my taste in fiction doesnt tell u a single thing about me. random people on the internet telling me im weird who know NOTHING about my personality or my life doesnt effect me and ill continue reading what entertains me because at the end of the day its not real

dont speculate on my life when the only thing you know about me is the kind of fiction i enjoy

I’m just going on the many of tests that shows my statement to be true. Also when you comment on public platforms, you expose yourself to such speculation. Don't bring your life interests online if it bothers you.

theres nothing that happened in my life that lead me to enjoy rape/abuse/toxic yaoi i literally just like it necayse fluff feels dull to me

In the first place, a story is just a story. Finding abuse and rape interesting topics in a narrative isn’t weird. Being fascinated by violence while exploring that fascination in a fictional setting is incredibly healthy and normal, unless you think playing shooter games or action games (GTA, CS:GO, Mortal Kombat, Postal, Cyberpunk 2077, all of these games have gratuitous violence yet happen to be the most popular video game franchises) you a mentally ill person.

The thing is these are things that actual living human beings go through and instead of sympathetising, you say you enjoy it. Saying it's just fiction doesn't validate it I'm sorry

First offI’m just sharing what studies have shown which I’ll share if you’re interested. Second of off, this person wasn’t JUST fascinated by abuse in rape. They clearly claimed that’s ALL they found interesting and EVERYTHING ELSE was boring to them. That’s where my point comes from. People can find it interesting or compelling but for that to HAVE TO BE what makes the story interesting is a red flag and no defending it as healthy. Lastly and thirdly, you mention shooting gals as if that does not already have links to school schooling in America or violent tendencies in young boys. That is not the case for every child BUT there are stats that show that if a kids ONLY interest and ONLY free time is at video games which shows violence and no outside time, then yes they have a high chance of influence. Hope this helped clear anything up and if you’re genuinely interested lmk

Nothing doesn’t have to happen but you could’ve also been exposed to this at a young age that’s desensitized you to things like rape and abuse. If not, I’m happy for you, but it’s not healthy lol. (Coming from someone who reads a lot of that stuff as well. Just don’t solely find those stories enjoyable)

Also an extra point: a story is a story is a very blanket comment, as we see stories always have influence, big or small. Just depends on the reader

you are so incredibly wrong but your confidence in your misinformation is admirable.

There’s 100% a difference between being curious about dark topics and being desensitized to or entertained by depictions of harm. Treating things like abuse or rape as casual entertainment is not normal or healthy.

And you started off wrong and strong. Fiction is not just fiction. It absolutely affects people. A simple google search would tell you that fiction CAN and DOES shape peoples emotions and their values, it can influence attitudes, and can normalize harmful behaviors.

Use your brain for a second now. How do we teach children values and morals? “The Tortoise and the Hare,” “The Boy Who Cried Wolf,” fairy tales, fables, and children’s books all use imaginary scenarios to shape real-life values.

And sure, video and action games with violence is not going to make someone a murder. But use your head now for me love… if a person everyday single only plays video games with rape, murder, violence and shooting… what exactly do you think they will think about in their everyday lives? How do you think they would initially want to react to any sort of stress or conflict? they’ll react with that same violence if that’s all they know and care about.

But yeah that’s real fucking healthy right, doctor?

Being aware of or interested in dark themes is natural, but acting as if all dark content is harmless is ignorant. Please educate yourself before spewing shite.

Mar et al. (2006) found that reading fiction enhances empathy and theory of mind by letting readers mentally simulate social experiences, rather than by confusing fiction with fact. Similarly, neuroscience research by Tamir, Oppenheimer, and colleagues (2016) shows that reading fiction activates the brain’s default-mode network (used in daydreaming and self-reflection) demonstrating that fiction triggers internal modeling, not belief formation. Its ethical value lies in the intent of the user. Of course if it is used for educational purposes, it’s damaging to portray violence, but entertainment has never signaled anything about a person’s moral beliefs or mental state. Also, shooting games have no correlation to school shootings, there is no scientific evidence that supports a link between them.

Mar et al. (2006) found that reading fiction enhances empathy and theory of mind by letting readers mentally simulate social experiences, rather than by confusing fiction with fact. Similarly, neuroscience research by Tamir, Oppenheimer, and colleagues (2016) shows that reading fiction activates the brain’s default-mode network (used in daydreaming and self-reflection) demonstrating that fiction triggers internal modeling, not belief formation. Its ethical value lies in the intent of the user. Of course if it is used for educational purposes, it’s damaging to portray violence, but entertainment has never signaled anything about a person’s moral beliefs or mental state. There is no scientific evidence to back this up.

If someone is so deeply affected by a story they decide to become a murderer, rapist, abuser, pedophile, etc they were probably going to do it anyways.

We don't but it's a different story when like someone getting brutally hurt and find it interesting in that is weird

sorry, but im not a child. i know the difference between fiction and reality. obviously i know rape and abuse is bad. if you cant tell the difference between reality and fiction you shouldnt indulge in dark fiction

First off, a story isn’t just a story. Depending on the reader it can have all the impact and or lessons (good or bad). Second, if you ONLY find abuse and rape interesting, then yes.. IT IS (I’m going off the commented saying anything outside of that is BORING). Third, you mention video games as if there aren’t any studies and evidence on a child or impressionable mind who only enjoys violent video games being linked to violent behaviors and worse case CRIMES (like shootings, abuse towards animals, violent towards others). You mention the popular games but fail to realize that those popular games are probably not a persons ONLY source of entertainment in gaming.

Nothing needed to happen. You could’ve also been exposed at a very young age (under 17 is considered a young age to be ready things in this nature). If neither case is true I’m happy for you. Doesn’t take away that it’s weird. If you could not post this on social media or even a comment section like this, without getting backlash. That should tell you it’s NOT normal. (Coming from someone who reads such stuff. I just do not solely find it entertaining. Or in some cases at all)

i never said that i only find rape/abuse entertaining. there are other troupes that i like, also what do you really plan to gain from calling me weird and continuing to say i have mental problems? regardless im going to keep enjoying what i enjoy and my preferences that ive had since i was a child wont change

Since a CHILD uhm ok

Why did you reply to me with the same comment reworded? Regardless, I’ll paste my reply to you again: Mar et al. (2006) found that reading fiction enhances empathy and theory of mind by letting readers mentally simulate social experiences, rather than by confusing fiction with fact. Similarly, neuroscience research by Tamir, Oppenheimer, and colleagues (2016) shows that reading fiction activates the brain’s default-mode network (used in daydreaming and self-reflection) demonstrating that fiction triggers internal modeling, not belief formation. Its ethical value lies in the intent of the user. Of course if it is used for educational purposes, it’s damaging to portray violence, but entertainment has never signaled anything about a person’s moral beliefs or mental state. There is no scientific evidence to back this up.

Yeah nah not only do you need to get help but ur parents need to get consequences for letting you see rape and abuse at such a young age online. You're genuinely so weird and it's sad that you don't realize it

Maybe they read some similar stories but at the end the fl go back together with the ml, like most manhwa and novel are like that with the shitty ml, I think they like the regret arc when the ml beg and shit.

Ngl I think the author wants that . So far the husband is not one of those "obsessed with the FL bc he sees her as his possession." there are no active female antagonist either who he ends up favoring over the FL cliché which is often a foreshadowing of the husband ending alone and obsessed over fl but not liked back.
Actually so far who he acts and is written reminds me Abbondoned empress where the author made the husband in the second timeline because he never did the horrible things he did to fl and has never lusted for the other girl.

I'm just saying it's EXTREMELY rare that a male charcaters who has liked or has been with another woman ends up being the ML in these kind of fictional stories. MLs are by default often must be lovestruck only for the heroine.

WAIT SPOILER I DIDNT INCLUDE

Yess

Where do you read that?

Yes do give link you find it. I searched the whole world for the translation of the novel

I tried to give links for different things but they’re getting filtered and deleted so just go to anas archive the website and search for this manhwa title and download the EPUB for the 5 volumes. Hope that helps

I unfortunately also do not know where to read it but I’ll update if I can find

go to the website anas archive where you can pirate epubs and pdfs. I’ve already searched and they have all 5 volumes of the novel. download them from there

Hello! I went to the website you suggested but there were only 4 volumes. Is there anything else I should do to find the 5th volume?

SAME I WANTED ONE TOO.. but ig they’re at a point in their relationship where they consider each other as kind of a married couple right? Also ig it’d be too much of a problem to explain at their workplaces… but ugh i love them so much

I think he does have some sort of interest in Angela. In one of the later chapters, he did tell Rayburn that he likes her (Angela), but on the more later chapters, he thought that he's not as strong as his brother so he doesn't think he can protect her and would be satisfied if he can be allowed to be near her at a safe distance at least. Something about a past memory with his mother that reminds him to not be greedy is also one of the factors why he'd rather not stand in the way of Rayburn & Angela.

To be honest, I think his interest can be interpreted in many ways. For some readers, it could be romantic - yes, but personally for me, it's more of awe & reverence. Both brothers have been chained to their dark pasts for a long time but when Angela came in, they saw her a their "light", and suddenly, their worlds have never been the same as before. Only that given the amount of time Rayburn and Angela spent with each other (and other factors as well), there definitely develops a shift in Rayburn's outlook for Angela. Thus, his revere of her eventually became romantic. Idk, this is just my opinion as another reader (pls don't come at me)

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Fr...hr had the right to become a villain

I read something about this on Reddit where Shirohama was more so warming up to the idea of his friend being in a homosexual relationship. In addition, based on the school festival arc of the most recent chapters, it seems the author is setting something up for him and Ugawa (Sasaki's college friend).

1. We have Ugawa who wears masks to hide his identity at the anime/manga convention and the school festival, possibly because he might be a popular Otaku like a cosplayer or something else.

2. Kyouji feels like he saw Ugawa somewhere other than with Sasaki near the candy shop, perhaps at a convention or on social media.

Overall, I think they might become the next pairing in the story or at least become Otaku friends.