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I'm here, my friend, getting confused what they're saying...

ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ hahaha no mames...

Same here. I couldn't get inti it lol

Same here. I couldn't get into it lol

hahaha c'monit is that your replays were so funny like: Mind if you die with me? No? ...o-ok(￣∇￣")

I saw it in two possibilities in that ending. One being rape. The other being that the uke knew the seme well enough to fake the whole thing and was referring to how he would control the relationship with sex when he snags him

But you do actually see him getting ready to have sex with him in the second last panel. He has no reason to fake that display when no ones watching (and he's not looking towards the reader, so I don't think its a case of breaking-the-4th-wall).

That aside, I reaaaally hope these dislikes are from people who disagree on the "really cute" part and not "rape is not okay" part. Can't imagine they'd be happy to know that while they were sleeping, someone used their body for the own sexual needs.

I 100% agree. I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but the ending of this story really bothered me! I can't help feeling that if the roles were reversed and the seme was the one to force himself on the sleeping uke, people would be really upset. I don't think the ending is cute just because the one who happened to be unconscious was the seme. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I'm kind of surprised that the majority of commenters seem to be totally fine with the way this story played out

There were no rape, he pretended to be sleeping.

Right? It's the same way how people think that if a woman rapes a man, it's not really rape because obviously, 'the man must've have enjoyed it'.

But I'm not surprised about the responses. There's a reason why I don't like associating myself with this fandom, a lot of yaoi fans say a lot of things I hate, and thinking that this isn't rape is one of them.

How do you know he's pretending to be sleeping? Nothing implies that he's faking. In fact, the uke even makes it clear that the guy's asleep.

It's annoying that rape is prevalent in yaoi manga and people continue to whine about it. Guess what else is in manga? Murder, gore, cannibalism.

It's not real. It's ok to be bothered about it but it's ridiculous to be bothered about one thing and then act as though nothing else is wrong. Rape is common in yaoi. It's not as prevalent now as it USED to be. But it's still there. Instead of complaining about it, how about just stop reading yaoi? Just like no sane person is going to murder someone after watching a murder manga. No sane person is going to rape someone. So if you're bothered, stop reading. Simple.

If you want to preach about it, preach to something that's happening IN THE WORLD. Where your whining may be of better use than on a manga comment that is not real Nor true in any context.

Wow.....I should stop reading all yaoi because there's rape in some of them. What a wonderfully, thought out reply! /s
My beef isn't with the actual act being in the yaoi. Depending on the story (like if its by harada), including it adds to the plot.

My problem is with the fact that the author sees nothing wrong with someone raping their lover (as evident by how she wrote that part out). She included it as a cute, fluffy moment. And it seems to me that you also think thats ok, and thats why you're being so defensive of this part of the manga. Wonder how you'd like to be raped and used like a sex toy while you were sleeping. Wouldn't find it pleasant, would you?

and guess what: rape is prevalent in the word. Just because in this case, it was in a manga, or man-on-man, and taker-over-inserter, doesn't mean that its not as important as rape incidents of man over women. The fact that you dont see the problem here, with everyone thinking its a-okay, is an issue that is not uncommon, unfortunately.

Agreed. It is the portrayal of rape as acceptable and normal that gets my goat.

Yes! For me, this is totally the issue. Horrible things can happen in manga (and the real world, as you stated in your later comment), but they need to be acknowledged as horrible. Another aspect of of the ending that REALLY bothered me was the fact that the uke raped the seme, and then did not correct the seme's misconception that he was the one to drunkenly initiate sex with the uke. Many of the seme's actions and concern for the uke stem from guilt related to this encounter. It's so manipulative! Seriously, I do not think this part of the story is remotely cute.

The bubble shows he's saying " Zzz" not actually snoring. he's saying " I"m pretending to be asleep " It's like he's giving him the ok to go for it, it's hard to french kiss someone while you're asleep and using tongues
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/toyed_aniya_yuiji/mi/685b726235fe9c9082213a63bb9e535f_chapter-1/28/

oh wow, I'd completely forgotten about how the seme was guilt-ridden from the experience. That's even worse, how can you be so horrible as to not only rape someone in their sleep, but then make them think you raped them and cause them to feel guilt over that? Wow.

How deluded are you?? Actually,a question for you, is english not your first language? 'zzz' is a onomatopoeia used to indicate that someone is sleeping. Sometimes, that person will be faking it, so they'll be pretending to 'zzz', but in that case, the author makes it obvious that they weren't awake (such as showing them peeking to see the person's reaction).

Not in this case, the guy was very clearly asleep.

THANK YOU.

I agree! Rape is rape no matter whose doing the raping.

I agree rape is wrong. However, I don't think the uke actually raped him. It's pretty much impossible to get a hard on when you're dead drunk but everyone is free to believe whatever they want.

Rape is sex without consent. Getting an erection is not consent. Being unresponsive is not consent. The absence of a "no" is not consent.

I don't believe they had sex. I'm not saying that getting an erection is consent. All I'm saying is the guy that was the seme wouldn't be able to get hard so he wouldn't be able to have sex with the uke.

I pressed dislike button! Sorry my mistake, I completely agree, this is rape.

I totally agree. But I'm also not a bird fan to begin with, so that probably has something to do with it. To each their own ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Yes I love Yamamoto for this. She's also one of very few BL mangakas that has had a character unashamedly say that he's bisexual. I was beginning to think the concept didn't exist in Japan or something.