
It's not rape if they were both drunk *runs away*

I mean, I can see why you would think that but technically it is. There are laws that dictate that sex while drunk is rape. However, I imagine that if both parties are drunk it is hard to argue in court which one is the victims you know? I think maybe they look into the situation and decide? Im not sure, I’ll have to look into it because it does seem very confusing.

Well yes they weren’t in the right state of mind
Then again it was a kiss
Bottom thought it was a dream
Since top was drunk or maybe half drunk who knows, they fucked and yea...
It’s different in some sense but I would think it was rape but who knows and it is true they are both to blame to be honest since bottom just went straight for it (while thinking it was a “dream”)
I still think this was a dream because chiwoo would’ve felt that aftermath of unprepared sex. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

I think you don’t understand what the victim blaming actually means because you’re throwing it around randomly
The bottom initiated by kissing without consent which is basically sexual assault
The top then proceeded to do the same thing which became rape on both sides
No one’s victim blaming but they both did that to each other because they were both drunk they were both under the influence to not make the proper choices
I was actually raped multiple times in my life and groomed for several years I literally know how this shit works so shut the fuck up and leave me alone

You literally lack the understanding about basic knowledge on this type of topic and since I’ve experienced it firsthand for multiple years of my life I literally know what I’m talking about so leave me alone dude
Second of all I never blamed any victims I said they both initiated it
They both were victims
Now leave me the fuck alone :/

Ok ok, but y'all discussing law semantics but like do we even know if any of them are "victims"? Like do we even believe that either of them was left with some sort of trauma and/or emotional distress? The court won't do wack if you can't argue that one of them suffered from the process.
So if this somehow ended in court they'd most likely drop it since they can't even be sure what damages need to be paid for (through various means)

( don’t take offense to this comment because I don’t mean it aggressively or offensive in any sort of way i’m basically going to use it as a way to back up my claim because Kirby is literally throwing words at me that are fucking cab )
This person is saying that I victim blamed which is not true
All I said that is both parties initiated it which basically means both parties and consentedly touched each other and it led to rape
They were both under the influence and we’re not in the state to make any sort of choices for themselves
That makes them both victims
This person thinks that saying they were both under the influence and initiated it is victim blaming even though that’s literally not what that is and they clearly don’t even know what they’re saying about that :/
I am a rape victim and assault victim survivor and I went through that for seven years of my life so literally they need to shut the fuck up because I’ve experienced it firsthand so I literally know all about this kind of thing
Literal hell and clearly in the situation that’s not what it is
This person is ignorantly throwing around victim blame
Second of all they kept trying to say that it was a dream even though there’s not one piece of evidence to back that up
When you say you’re hoping it’s a dream that’s literally proving my point so that’s what I mean
You’re proving my point
But I say this in a good way :)

I just get really defensive and aggressive when someone accuses me of things like a victim blaming when I literally am a fucking victim Makes me so fucking mad it makes my blood boil
So I just hope they shut the fuck up and educate themselves in something like this because literally I am a victim it’s so fucking annoying when someone talks and they don’t know shit about it
Fucking pisses me off

I was debating if I should even reply to you but I feel I do have to clear my side up.
Look I’m just saying what I see based on what you have stated: which is “uke initiated” it is implied there that you are victim blaming. Did you mean to? No, but it is still implied. Additionally, I’m deeply deeply sorry that you even had to have gone through a situation like that. It’s horrible, and I sincerely hope that you are in a better situation now. However, you can not make assumptions about me at all! You do not know what I have been through in my life so you do not get to dictate on what I am allowed to discuss.

That’s true, but I assume that if Chi woo does find out about this and about the time that blue hair assaulted him in his sleep then he wouldn’t be very happy. Also, I ended my statement with we won’t know what really happened until the next chapter. Im just commenting because people think a kiss is a green light and it’s wrong to even think that.

I think the ch is hinting as Chiwoo believing it only was a dream, being like "am i dreaming?" since this is Hwan's flashback and so it's his memories.
Tbh I don't like people on both extremes. A drunk kiss isn't a green light, but also a kiss can be pretty terrible if you're in a position where you can't consent. Overall it's gonna be glossed over most likely in future chapters so all the arguing is a bit pointless

True true. I should of made myself a whole lot clearer because this whole chat is a mess. I didn’t mean to side with Chiwoo so much because, yea. An unwanted kiss can be pretty bad too. I was just pretty mad that people were excusing blue hair because they were both drunk and because Chiwoo kissed him. But your right! We’re arguing over something that might be completely glossed over next chapter lmao

Yup, I read all your replies. It’s much clearer now, although I don’t appreciate how you kept calling me ignorant. You first reply does make it seem a certain way so can we both agree that we both were a bit assuming? Either, in the end this argument might not even matter anymore depending how next chapter turns out
When will we get more chapters. The crops are dry. The children are starving. Please
LOL IM DIYING