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that guy cheated and has a big as ego as a cover up, how is he not the worst?

(not biting your ass -yet tho- but genuinely asking cuz I like hearing other people’s opinions)

Maam are you FR

For you, what's the worst then?

Ew.

"He isn't the worst but he's one of the worst"

If we're gonna compare Mincheol w other manhwa character like Sovieshu frm remarried empress (In my opinion I think he's the worse) I kinda agree with you tbh, but I don't feel bad for him.

Let's not forget he freaking cheated, denied Hae Soo, do the deed in there own freaking home and a lot more...
What I feel bad the most is Ari, just like Na-Hae Soo she needs someone better. :

He literally effed around and found out lol.

Bffr

that man is narcissist asf i bet if he wasn’t good looking u would hate him to the core as well

Well, I wouldn’t say I feel bad for him…but he definitely lost his way. when they showed the past and how much he used to love her and how you would think they would be happy for life…while I don’t have much sympathy for him, I wonder how he got this bad.

I like him a bit too so i feel for you, hes pissed and i love that for her not because hes hurt but bc he cares and yes hes a bad husband but like i said before he didnt cheat until he was thrown a woman and his wife was refusing intimacy, he was able to treat her so poorly bc she allowed herself to be a punching bag but mincheol loves when she shows emotion or human feelings he looses it and i love it

the victim blaming goes crazy w this one gang

have u ever thought that maybe….. she was too tired to have intimacy because she have to have at least 5 jobs to pay off mincheol’s debt while he himself is jobless???????

the victim blaming goes WILD mate

yes but she should have left him. dont get me wrong mincheol is trash but naeso is weak. and none of this would have been possible if she wouldnt have allowed it. im not saying she is to blame though it sounds that way. they are both toxic for one another. naeso is a human being deserving of love and kindess but so is mincheol he deserves forgiveness to just not from naesoo and idk i just think that anyone who is with someone who allows them to do anyhting they want will turn dark eventually no matter who

To mika and manchukawaii.

“Not the worst”??? Girl, are we reading the same damn manhua or are you into this kind of man?

This man cheated, freeloaded, and he take loans under his wife name. He also DIVORCED her just so he wouldn’t get chased by the loan sharks then said something like they'll get married again when they're done paying the debts. (Like ghorl, are you for fucking real?) He ran from his responsibility and dumped it all on Hae Soo like it was nothing.

Let’s talk about Hae Soo. She’s out there killing herself with multiple jobs, literally carrying the mess he created, while this man-child is jobless, irresponsible, and screwing another woman, even did it in their own damn house. And you're telling me “he cares” just because he got pissed? Ghorl, he’s mad because he didn’t expect Hae Soo to actually find someone. His ego is getting bruised.

You “love it” when he gets pissed? Girl, wake up. That’s not emotion. That’s a narcissist losing control. He doesn’t love her. Maybe he did once, sure. But the Mincheol we’re seeing now? He doesn’t even respect her. And you don’t do that to someone you love.

And that line, “he only cheated when a woman was thrown at him”? Excuse me? What is he, a toddler with no self-control? A man who cheats when given the chance is still a cheater. Stop trying to dress up garbage behavior like it’s some misunderstood tragedy. There is no excuse for betraying someone who’s literally breaking their back for you.

And don’t you dare say she “allowed herself to be a punching bag.” That’s straight-up victim blaming. She stayed because she loved him and believed he would change. She was loyal. And he used that loyalty to walk all over her. He knew she had no one else and that she’d keep forgiving him. He’s disgusting. He doesn’t deserve a single ounce of forgiveness.

So no. He’s not “not the worst.” He’s one of the worst. A narcissist. A cheater. A manipulator. A walking red flag that somehow got romanticized by people like you.

And seriously, what even is “the worst” to you? Like what, does he have to kill someone before you finally say he's the worst? Because based on everything he’s already done, the only things missing are murder, rape, and drugs. Is that really your standard for “worst”? You need it to hit criminal levels before you stop defending him?

You’re embarrassing yourselves.

I knew this is coming surely get lots of intentions.let me live a peaceful rainbow live. I just gonna go back to my The S-Class Guide as Sweet as Honey (Yaoi) I already asked nicely not to bite my *ss and they still did. Good bye!

this take is INSANE. haesoo clearly probably has some problems such as attachment issues cause if u don’t know mincheol and her has been together for 13 YEARS. 13 YEARS. plus the fact that he was the one who was with her since she was being abused at home that probably made her stay into the relationship. but that doesn’t mean that mincheol has the right to degrade and cheat on her when HE HIMSELF PUT HER TO THAT SPOT! oml yes, haesoo stayed but she didn’t deserve to be cheated on and be degraded. Mincheol, on the other hand deserves ALL AND MAYBE MORE OF THE HATE HE’S GETTING because he narcissistic asf and he manipulates haesoo into staying into the relationship by saying they would get married again once all of the debts are paid BY HAESOO. HE DOESN’T LOVE HAESOO, HE LOVES THE THOUGHT OF HOW SHE TREATS HER LIKE HE CAN JUST GO BACK TO HER W/O ANY PROBLEMS.

EXACTLY! I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS MINCHEOL DEFENDERS. SO EMBARRASSING

EXACTLY! I DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE MINCHEOL DEFENDERS. SO EMBARRASSING

forgot to add but even in the part where their relationship is still new, haesoo has been giving little to no reaction to everything mincheol does but he still loved her and stayed with her and manage to be together for years before he decided to fvck around. so if ure going to blame haesoo and say that mincheol only do what he does bc he loves seeing haesoo feel things. you are VERY MUCH wrong.

I agree with you glad someone could see my point of view a little

“She should’ve left”? Do you think it’s that easy? Thirteen years. They’ve been together for thirteen years. That’s not just a relationship you can walk away from in a snap. People don’t just leave overnight, especially when they’ve given everything and built their entire life around that person.

Yes, Mincheol is trash. Finally something we can agree on. But calling Naeso weak? No. She wasn’t weak. She was exhausted. She stayed not because she “allowed” the abuse, but because she believed in him. That’s what love does — it makes you hold on, even when it’s slowly killing you. And that doesn’t make her weak. That makes her human.

Also, "anyone who’s with someone who allows them to do anything will turn dark eventually"?? That sounds like you’re saying it’s her fault that he turned into a piece of shit. Let’s be clear. There are plenty of people in relationships where their partner is kind, trusting, and supportive — and they don’t cheat or destroy that person. Why? Because being decent is a choice. Mincheol CHOSE to be selfish. He CHOSE to lie, cheat, and hurt her. That's on him.

And forgiveness? Sure, he might “deserve” forgiveness — from the universe or karma or whatever. But not from Naeso. Not after everything he put her through. She doesn’t owe him closure, healing, or grace. He burned that bridge.

So no. She wasn’t weak. She was human. And she gave that relationship thirteen years of her life. That is not something you throw back at her like it’s her fault she got hurt.

STOP BLAMING HER.

Thank you! i hope this ppl would NEVER be in the same shoes as her because best believe i would say the exact same thing they’re saying to her.

They be blaming everyone except the one who really is to blame. Can’t believe they really read everything from the start to recent update and their take would be “it’s her fault for not leaving” damn. Even saying that she’s refusing intimacy that’s why she got cheated on is soooo LOW.

The man literally is jobless, cheats on her, is addicted to gambling, degrades her, put her into debt, doesn’t even let her eat, put himself over any thing, and manipulates the fvck out of her but sure let’s forgive him cause he’s good looking and hot

true i agree

idk im a psychology major in college so ive read multiple stories that test this, what humans are capable of doing when given absolute power over another. And the results are always the same, they become violent, cruel, and dehumanize them. That does not make that person evil by definition but by situation. So in my opinion mincheol is bad for naesoo but not bad in general, there are glimpses of passion and human like emotions froom him that are deeper than the other characters. He does not deserve her but he does deserve his own happiness, they drew out their relationship for far to long and allowed themselves to be ruined in the process. Naesoo was far to traumatized to even be in a 13 year long relationship anyways so she should honestly be single and try to find herself now. Mincheol saved and ruined her and his time with her should be done but i do not hate him as a character.

Psych major or not, you're still trying to romanticize a man who abused, cheated, and manipulated a woman for 13 years. Saying "he’s not evil, just a product of the situation" is the exact excuse people use to downplay accountability. We’re not talking about some lab experiment here. This is about a man who consciously chose to betray someone who gave up everything for him. That’s not situational. That’s character.

Yes, Mincheol saved Hae Soo when they were young. He protected her, gave her comfort, bought her a phone so they could stay connected. And that’s exactly what makes his betrayal even worse. Because he was someone she trusted. Someone she believed in. And he used that trust to slowly break her down. He didn’t just ruin her. He broke the one person who believed in him the most. You don’t get points for doing the bare minimum in the past when your present self turns into the very thing that destroys her.

Saying he’s “bad for Naesoo but not bad in general” is such a cop-out. That’s like saying an abuser is only abusive in certain relationships, so it doesn’t count. Newsflash — if you’re capable of doing that to one person, especially the one who gave you everything, that IS who you are.

And about those “glimpses of passion” and “human-like emotions”? He had years to show that passion in ways that mattered. He showed pain when she pulled away — not because he loved her, but because he couldn’t stand losing control. His emotions weren’t about her. They were about him.

You say she was “too traumatized to be in a 13-year relationship” as if that justifies how he treated her. You don’t fix a traumatized person by loving them halfway and cheating when it gets inconvenient. You either commit to healing with them or leave — you don’t ruin them further and call it love.

He does not “deserve happiness” in the way you're saying it. Not after what he did. He deserves consequences. He deserves reflection. He deserves to be alone and face the reality of what he did. Happiness doesn’t come from destroying someone and moving on like nothing happened.

So no, you don’t get to excuse him because he had a soft backstory. So did she. The difference is, she gave everything and he threw it away.

You’re allowed to not hate him as a character. That’s your choice. But don’t dress it up like it’s some deep psychological analysis. Let’s be real — he knew exactly what he was doing. He didn’t even feel guilty when Hae Soo caught him cheating. He just stood there, emotionless, like she was overreacting. And in his head? He thought all he had to do was give her time and she’d come crawling back like always. That’s not heartbreak. That’s pure arrogance.

What a disgusting, entitled mindset. And no matter how much you want to understand him, you don’t get to justify his actions. Understanding isn't the same as excusing. You can analyze his behavior all you want, but don’t twist it into something that makes him look like a victim when he was the one doing all the damage.

Psych major or not, you're still trying to romanticize a man who abused, cheated, and manipulated a woman for 13 years. Saying "he’s not evil, just a product of the situation" is the exact excuse people use to downplay accountability. We’re not talking about some lab experiment here. This is about a man who consciously chose to betray someone who gave up everything for him. That’s not situational. That’s character.

Yes, Mincheol saved Hae Soo when they were young. He protected her, gave her comfort, bought her a phone so they could stay connected. And that’s exactly what makes his betrayal even worse. Because he was someone she trusted. Someone she believed in. And he used that trust to slowly break her down. He didn’t just ruin her. He broke the one person who believed in him the most. You don’t get points for doing the bare minimum in the past when your present self turns into the very thing that destroys her.

Saying he’s “bad for Naesoo but not bad in general” is such a cop-out. That’s like saying an abuser is only abusive in certain relationships, so it doesn’t count. Newsflash — if you’re capable of doing that to one person, especially the one who gave you everything, that IS who you are.

And about those “glimpses of passion” and “human-like emotions”? He had years to show that passion in ways that mattered. He showed pain when she pulled away — not because he loved her, but because he couldn’t stand losing control. His emotions weren’t about her. They were about him.

You say she was “too traumatized to be in a 13-year relationship” as if that justifies how he treated her. You don’t fix a traumatized person by loving them halfway and cheating when it gets inconvenient. You either commit to healing with them or leave — you don’t ruin them further and call it love.

He does not “deserve happiness” in the way you're saying it. Not after what he did. He deserves consequences. He deserves reflection. He deserves to be alone and face the reality of what he did. Happiness doesn’t come from destroying someone and moving on like nothing happened.

So no, you don’t get to excuse him because he had a soft backstory. So did she. The difference is, she gave everything and he threw it away.

You’re allowed to not hate him as a character. That’s your choice. But don’t dress it up like it’s some deep psychological analysis. Let’s be real — he knew exactly what he was doing. He didn’t even feel guilty when Hae Soo caught him cheating. He just stood there, emotionless, like she was overreacting. And in his head? He thought all he had to do was give her time and she’d come crawling back like always. That’s not heartbreak. That’s pure arrogance.

What a disgusting, entitled mindset. And no matter how much you want to understand him, you don’t get to justify his actions. Understanding isn't the same as excusing. You can analyze his behavior all you want, but don’t twist it into something that makes him look like a victim when he was the one doing all the damage.

Exactly. Like be f**king for real. The bar is in hell if we’re out here justifying a man’s abuse because “he’s hot” or “he cared once.” What kind of twisted mindset is that? He’s not misunderstood — he’s just a walking red flag in human form.

He did everything wrong. Cheated. Lied. Gambled their life away. Made her starve. Gaslit her. Made her take on debts he caused. Treated her like sh*t in their own house. But somehow the takeaway is, “well she stayed, so it’s on her”? No. Just no.

People love to act like leaving is easy, like you just wake up and say “yeah I’m done.” When you’ve been manipulated and broken down for years, you don’t even realize how deep you’ve sunk until it’s too late. That’s what abusers like him thrive on — control and silence.

So yeah, let’s stop babying grown-ass men who know exactly what they’re doing and start holding them accountable. Hae Soo isn’t weak — she’s a survivor. The real clowns are the ones excusing his behavior like he’s a misunderstood prince instead of the trashbag he really is.

Glad you see it clearly. At least someone still has brain cells left.

Real.

sorry I meant to like your comment

There’s some spoiler in the comment section and honestly it made my stomach churn.

Why is this comment so True??

I hope so lol