it’s like...i Was vaguely aware that they had sex with a dead body like 2 ft from them but somehow......... it rly just hit me you know........... o___o
y’all are actually too much like when the mf pretty boy main character of a webtoon has a tragic backstory where they were abandoned and act out youre all like oh T__T poor bby T__T but when it’s another kid they’re annoying and stupid to you huh give me a break. no one cares that you don’t like kids lmao go get some fucking empathy or read another webtoon then
So what ? I don't like kids, so what ? I mean, she's annoying bc she could have just listen to the adult but didn't. He told her to be careful, but she didn't listen. Any kids is able to listen to an adult ?? You don't have to be mature to listen to an adult when he says "stop doing that" ? And I don't like children in general, I don't expect them to be mature because I'm perfectly aware that they're childish and immature, and that's the very reason why I can't stand them and so, I don't stay near them bc they make me uncomfortable. But are you seriously judging people who don't like children and worse, you're saying that they must have a fucking therapy ???? Are u serous ?????? Just bc she has a tragic backstory doesn't mean that I'll not be annoyed ? Just bc she has a tragic backstory doesn't mean that everything is allowed ? One of the adult's duty is to educated them ? Teaching them that they have to listen to the adults especially if the situation is serious and/or dangerous, don't you think so ? Also, we can be annoyed with a child and still feel empathy for them or in general ? Like, who are you to judge someone by assuming their personality, wether they lack of empathy or not, based on the only fact that they're annoyed with a fictional character ? Also, who are you to assume wether someone react the same way when it comes to fiction and reality ? And who are you to tell them to get a therapy ? And the webtoon is not about the kid, so I'll gladly keep reading it lmao ???
the issue here is ppl are just being stupid about the kid shes not real stop complaining about her and also shes having a... pretty normal reaction to the idea of being separated from a parent she probably thought loved her like any parent should? like i could not imagine finding this kid annoying shes literally just being. an abandoned child in denial about being abandoned.
It's exactly bc this child is fictional that I don't understand why do people take this so seriously as if she was real. Like it may be a fiction but fiction make you feel emotions, some fictions make you laugh, cry, angry etc, even tho it's fictional. Here, one character make some people annoyed, there is absolutely no problem with that. This is just what the author make us feel as readers with their plot, with their characters etc. What I can't understand is why do people are insulting or judging those who are just feeling some emotions that differ from theirs. Just bc you can't understand or you don't feel the same way that you all have the right to judge us. Like, why do they feel obligated to defend her as if she was real? As if we were monsters who would let a child dies all alone in the woods without any compassion. Disliking kids doesn't mean being heartless. But here, this is just fiction, and I really don't care at all. The only emotion she makes me feel is annoyance and I have the right to feel that way bc she's not real and the author is good enough to makes me feel something with just a fictional character.
idk what to tell u other than like complaining about her is still stupid, and also shes supposed to be an upset kid because she was abandoned by her father and shes acting like a perfectly normal kid who would be abandoned by their father and not believe it. i think most ppl feel the need to defend her as if she were real because real children go through this and hating a fictional kid who is acting in a real way a real child would act in real life in fiction probably says something about how youd feel about an irl kid going througgh the same situation. also op pointed out the hypocrisy in the way you guys act about pretty boy mc and a little girl going through an upsetting thing herself. i just simply dont get why anyone would be complaining about her point blank, like shes literally. just not doing anything wrong. also "its exactly bc this child is fictional that i dont understand why do people take this so seriously as if she was real" youre doing the same thing by complaining about her being annoying and also talking about how you hate kids??
honestly i just dont get why anyones complaining about her at all. shes acting like a normal kid. people are judging and complaining because you guys are missing the point entirely.
People have the right to complain tho? Just bc u don't understand and u have a different opinion doesn't mean that we are wrong? Don't try to push your own beliefs on people and don't judge them just bc they have different opinions and u can't understand theirs. You feel some pity and other people feel annoyance. Nobody's asking u to justify yourself so you shouldn't try to ask us to justify what we feel on the matter. We just feel that way and that's it. We have different personalities, different opinions and we see this scene differently. When I say that I don't understand why people take this so seriously bc she's fictional, I'm talking about those who are literally insulting people just bc they're complaining about a fictional character and they directly assume things about them and even tell them to get some therapy??? As I said, fiction can make you feel some real emotions, this fictional character annoyed me, and she even made me think about children in general who also annoys me, but does that mean that I see her as a real kid? No, and that's why I don't even feel guilty bc I know she doesn't exist. Does that mean I take this seriously? Well at first no but seeing how some people are insulting me bc of it, now yes. Does that mean I'm a heartless monster who don't have any empathy towards children and who should get a therapy? No. Does that mean that you can assume things about me just bc of what I feel for a fictional character? This is so fuckep up, I swear. People can be super offensive and mean to real people just for a fictional character? Like wtf? It feels like a big joke. This is where the line between fiction and reality disappeared for some people bc they're attacking real people bc of a story which is not real.
Plus, she's just a side character, like, I really don't give a damn about side characters in general (unless it is another gay couple which is not)
idk i can kind of see where ur coming from but imo it really is just like. a fictional character that is represented in a realistic way. idfk man seeing ppl complain about a fictional child and then ppl complaining about ppl complaining about a fictional child is just a circle of stupidity .
I saw some comments saying this = She was being stupid, cuz she didn’t listen to someone to be careful, and she ended up hurting herself and someone else - again take it from someone who’s done something just as stupid as a kid.
Like srsly, if I hurt myself becuz I was stupid, then I was being stupid
And if I hurt someone else becuz of that, then it’s even more stupid
Even if she’s fictional ppl will still get frustrated lol, mostly cuz they’re so invested with city boy. And idk about anyone else, but I just find her annoying, which I feel like is understandable, like this child is being dumb, like just cuz she’s a child I’m not gonna excuse everything they do. Here it's not even about being mature, just listening to someone telling you it's dangerous. And don't worry, hating a side character in a story you're reading just for purple haired guy and his soon-to-be boyfriend doesn't make you a child abuser in need of therapy in real life. = this sums everything up very well and explains why it's not "stupid" to complain about her. I mean it's the comment section, we're supposed to have the right to talk about about anything we want.
so i read this today and i’m a little confused why ppl are so mad at bona for “stealing recipes”..? he gave her the recipes so he could figure out if the dude he was dating was actually the guy at the cafe so is it her fault for using what he gave her to use??? to me it seems like her and the chef guy are close so they can joke fight about changing the recipe and stuff not that she’s actually backstabbing him am i reading this wrong lol
i think there is more nuance to why people are upset that he might lose weight than some of these commenters seem to believe. yes he did gain the weight due to trauma and him losing it may represent ridding himself of that trauma, that makes sense narratively of course. but the bigger picture here is that BL and a lot of manga in general just does not have fat characters, and i have rarely read any stories where the fat character doesn’t become skinny in the end.
so even though him losing weight makes sense story wise, it’s like why did the author choose to make that the obvious choice instead of letting fat people see themselves in a story where the mc stays fat the whole time AND is still loved, gets to have sex, etc? i’m sure there are also people out there who can relate to this specific mc, but for others it just ends up being the same song and dance where they once again are not allowed to exist in media. obviously this manga is not done yet so this is all just speculation and the author might even approach this with a lot of care, but i feel like it’s unfair to say that people are not allowed to feel frustrated just because he gained that weight due to trauma.
TLDR: mc is not a real person, all of the mc’s thoughts and actions were written by someone with bias, so even if it seems that him getting skinny is a logical progression, a person (again, with bias) wrote it to be that way.
This was well said! I feel the exact same way about being slightly disappointed if the author decides to go after the weight loss route. Don't get me wrong, it is good if the mc wants to change for himself, but the fact that there are hardly any stories about self-love and learning to stay as who you are, especially for those that are struggling with their weight, makes it sad.
Again, the people aren't upset that he's losing weight, but upset about having a character finding love until they become skinny again. Why can't it be normalized even if he were on the bigger side?
I hope the author doesn't do that, but I wouldn't even be surprised at this point.
thank you and i totally agree with everything you’ve added on! even if this story ends up that way i really hope to find stories (esp cute BL or any lgbt stories in general!) in the future that show someone happily finding love without having to lose weight first :’) i’m sure must be some hidden gems out there!
i think the phone in the last chapter is shizume’s not kiumi’s, even tho there’s no name there it’s made more obvious by the fact that the sex friend is asking for his handcuffs back and shizume’s the one that does/used to do bdsm type play. i think it’d be pretty weird if shizume was going through kiumis messages so i feel like i need to protect his honour lol
i feel like i can usually get over the age difference thing in manga because they get together when they’re both adults but the way this author constantly flashes back to scenes of yuma being a caretaker is sooo weird like do u want us to see this guy as an adult or a child please choose one???
I was thinking exactly the same. It's like the author takes pleasure in portraying the relationship almost like real siblings, or some kind of "father and son". It's just rare and a little uncomfortable.
Psst- it's supposed to be uncomfortable, even the characters are uncomfortable with the situation "shoul've stayed a child"? They're all confused, we're all confused. The author did a good job. That's the point.
Lol I was thinking the same. If we weren't a little bit uncomfortable about all this, then we wouldn't be understanding what the couple is feeling, and this would be another X yaoi manga with good RarePair! Smut and nothing else.
i mean you’re not wrong, the author’s intention could really be to make people feel uncomfortable. saying they did a good job is pretty subjective though because i’m less uncomfortable and more just...finding it ridiculous i guess? things like this Iconic Baby Scene that just happened immediately takes readers way out of whatever smut is happening, and that honestly makes me feel bad for the author for having worked hard to draw all that because i’m too busy laughing at how they compared a sex pose to that instead of appreciating idk, the titties or smth. rly as someone who hasn’t even bought this work though i can’t criticize the author tooo much, just stating my personal thoughts
Again... that's the whole dynamic
Idk if you are getting it
It's not a random baby shot
It's intentional
his parents....let their teenage son go live at some guys house really easily huh lol my parents would've lost it if i even asked
WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO LIVE THERE?? YOU'RE ONLY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT? IS THE JOB NECESSARY? WHERE IS IT? IS IT SAFE? HOW WILL YOU COMMUTE? YOU CSNT COMMUTE FROM HOME? WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF YOU
LOLOL
i thought i was crazy for missing hwi when he was here litrally 2 chapters ago but i'm glad we all feel the same lol
If you are crazy, then I am crazy too.....I hope we get to see sexy sexy sexy Hwi soon......He is so fine.......
seconded about being confused as to why ppl are saying taehyun has a crush on hajin i really don't think he does? i think the most obvious proof that he doesn't is that we've already seen what he's like when he has a crush (dokyung) and this is nothing like that... i think we just need to accept the fact that he sees hajin as a bby (because he is a baby) and feels as affectionate as a brother/cousin would
lol i was thinking of starting this today but reading the comments it seems like ppl are pretty pissed at one of the characters, can anyone tell me if it’s worth reading rn or if i should hold off for a bit?
Yes read!! Form your own opinion, you'll like it. the main couple is cute
It's not a bad manwha tbh i really like the main couple. The pink hair bitch be ruining a lot of stuff and thats not cuz he's bad its just how the author is trying to justify his actions in a very poor way. I would say to wait till its completed cuz the cliffhangers do be very frustrating. ╥﹏╥
Honestly, totally great wording there "pink hair bitch be ruining a lot of stuff and thats not cuz he's bad its just how the author is trying to justify his actions in a very poor way."
I personally think it's a decent read but i feel like the build up is either lacking or confusing tbh, that's really it. Every story has its own a**hole* though
thanks for the response!! i think as long as the main couple is enjoyable i’ll be willing to give it a read but maybe i’ll check back in a few more updates to see how it’s going then ^_^
Yes thank you! I tried to not spoil stuff while trying to respond. But at least assholes in other stories are at least a bit likable i.e the author will give proper reasoning and char development or they just get what they deserve. I dont think i will ever like seungho here no matter his crappy backstory he's even a very weak willed villain too if he just turns into a new leaf cuz doyun saved him or some bs. LIKE PLEASE NO. That bitch still be needing therapy and JAIL FOR ALL THOSE DAMN MURDERS THE AUTHOR IS JUST GONNA BRUSH UNDER THE CARPET.
You're welcome!! I would love to know what you thought abt it after youve finished reading!! But no pressure ahahah (▰˘◡˘▰)
haha i got impatient and it took me a little while but i just caught up!! i forgot i had actually started this story a couple of months ago so i was surprised to see the first little bit was really familiar... anyway i love the main couple T T they’re so cute together i hope after this they’ll get to have more time to just be together and be lovey dovey