I CANNOT STOP TWINKling's Topics (606)

you cannot say rape is the victims fault. no matter what you do,, nobody deserves to get raped. are u fr?????

The culture depicted here pressures people to drink at afterwork gatherings to build team relationships and trust. The uke should've been dropped off at home or at a hotel unmolested...that is the unwritten rule of understanding. And let's not forget that the seme's torments were also a huuuge factor in his alcohol intake so the seme actually got to screw him twice...both literally and figuratively. That's fd up.

No. The problem lies in the fact that he should be able to get drunk af whenever and wherever, but he can't. That is the problem.

You're not entirely wrong, But FYI it's people's responsibility if they want to take precaution before they regret doing anything in the first place. I mean in reality, rape is really inevitable. That's why you need to be careful of your own surroundings before doing anything incautious. Like what you said, nobody want's to get raped. Take a step wrong and you might not want the consequences aftermath.

i think rapists should just not rape.
rape is not a consequence of your actions??? it's the racists fault for being a rapist. you can't say you should expect to be raped if you're in a compromising situation. that is literally victim blaming.

rapists*

i understand disgusting sick people will rape but that does NOT give you any right to blame the rape victim. they are definitely not "asking for it" like you implicitly suggested.

Rapism wouldn't be inevitable if they could keep their d in their pants.

Exactly.

“rape is inevitable” what the actual fuck? so basically ur saying, assault comes naturally and the only way we can prevent it from happening is taking personal precautions. how bout instead of that, we stop the fucking rapists. the people in the comments who are trying the justify what happened are out of them minds if they don’t think it’s rape. there was no consent. and even if he DID want to have sex, he was literally intoxicated, which means he COULDN'T give consent. people get drunk in public all the time, but what ur saying is that he was the cause for the entire situation, as if he was hold a huge sign that read PLEASE RAPE ME. none of this is his fault. your entire argument is victim-blaming and disgusting. i hope you educate yourself next time before you decide to comment bigoted things.

also the people who are adding onto this thread are absolutely right. hope u learn something from them.

This is like saying that a woman deserves rape if she wears a mini skirt like the seme aient a beast in heat he could perfectly control himself if he wanted

Do you even know how to stop rapists? The fact that there are more rapists out there and we don't even know who they are and where they are and you think there's a possibility that we could easily stop them and being vulnerable at that. Actions comes with consequences and it's chronological. You can't stop a rapist unless you're fully careful. OF COURSE, it's not entirely the victim's fault because, obviously the rapists also did something disagreeable too. it's both their fault. How do rapists exist? And how do victims exist?

Why do victims get raped? Because there are two factors, either people taking advantage of them and also being vulnerable and thoughtless beforehand.

i think ur fucking forgetting that people still get raped regarding of how careful their precautions are. it’s not cause and effect. it’s never the victim’s fault. for example, there are plenty of sexual assault cases where the victim wasn’t even drunk and they were wearing modest clothing. CLOTHING DOES NOT EQUAL CONSENT. to answer ur question, yeah a lot of rapists don’t get what they deserve, and that’s a major fucking problem. that doesn’t mean that it’s the victim is to blame. BECAUSE THE VICTIM WASNT ASKING FOR IT. and wow, calling rape something “disagreeable” is also fucking gross. some people can never recover from that trauma of being touch without consent, whether they were intoxicated or not. if you knew someone who was assaulted, i hope to god you would never tell them it was their fucking fault. rapists exist because they’re sick in the head. and victims exist because of the rapists. not the other way around. so literally stop. you’re wrong. don’t victim blame PERIOD.

Being drunk with friends, wearing short skirts, thight clothes ect arent illegal its raping which is and rn you sound like a catholic mom with an iq of 3 like if we use your logic there should not even be any kind of sexual assult in country where alcoohol is forbiden or hijab is obligatory yet there is because rapist are horny pigs who can't control themself and i m sure that if you defend them you are probably a dirty ass pig yourself and deserve the worst death you dumb little bitch

Period.

İ wish they could but this person seems like a really dumb person with really low iq looking at the shit argument they gave like they basically defended rape so i doubt ;_;

how are you gonna blame the victim? its his right to get dead drunk if he wants to, stop blaming the victim blame the rapist

I made a mistake, that is i probably forgot to tell you that my opinion was solely based on the chapter's situation and IRL similar situations where a person got raped because he/she got drunk in public, not even knowing the consequences beforehand. Plus you're basically implying that i'm wrong just because i also said that the victim's at fault TOO. I literally pointed out it's both their fault.

It's because i'm not being prejudiced in the current situation. Plus there's literally no point in defending the rapist when i clearly implied it's BOTH the victim's fault and the rapist's fault.

That's because i'm not being prejudiced in the current situation. Plus there's literally no point in defending the rapist when i clearly implied that it's not just his fault too. Wouldn't that be hypocrisy?

That's because i wasn't being prejudiced in the current situation they're in. Plus there's literally no point in defending the rapist when i clearly implied that it's not just his fault too. Wouldn't that be hypocrisy?

saying the victim at fault AT ALL is wrong. i have a huge problem with the statement that it’s both of them. cus it’s fucking not. again, if someone you knew got drunk at a WORK GATHERING (because that makes it all the more wrong) and was raped, i hope you never say, “well you shouldn’t have gotten drunk”. that’s victim blaming, no excuses. also, someone else in this thread talked about how going to these gatherings in korean culture is supposed to convey trust between coworkers. the seme totally disregarded that trust and raped him. how can you say that’s the uke’s fault? HE DID NOT ASK NO BE RAPED. BEING DRUNK DOES NOT MEAN “RAPE ME”. you can try to keep making the same dumbass argument with literally no support of claims, but i will always stand firm on this topic: that it’s never the victim’s fault. they’re literally called VICTIMS for a fucking reason. do not justify the seme’s actions. it’s ONLY his fault. if it wasn’t, he wouldn’t feel the need to apologize.

saying it’s the victim’s fault AT ALL is wrong. i have a huge problem with even giving him an ounce of blame. again, if someone you knew got drunk at a WORK GATHERING (cus that makes it all the more fucked up), and was rape, i really hope you have enough common sense and compassion to not say, “well, u shouldn’t have gotten raped”. HE DIDNT ASK TO BE RAPE. BEING DRUNK DOESNT MEAN “RAPE ME”. you can try making the same dumbass argument with literally zero support of your stupid claims, but i will never falter on this topic, that if one is sexually assaulted, REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION, it’s ONLY the rapist’s fault. saying otherwise is victim blaming. it makes me sick to my stomach that you’re still trying to justify this. get educated, bitch.

So the drunk guy didn't have any company with him since the sober guy had an easy chance to take him somewhere else, so the question is if you're going to drink alcohol to the point that you can't think straight why drink in public especially with no one to accompany you or take you home? Both are to blame, most blame goes to the sober guy but the drunk guy was too careless going out and drinking to public like that considering that something bad might happen to him because he's drunk. It's the consequence of his heavy drinking.

***“well, you shouldn’t have gotten drunk” (grammar mistake, my bad)

"not entirely the victims fault" um????? it's not the victims fault AT ALL.

have you not been paying attention not any of the other comments? the uke had no fucking idea that the seme was going to rape him. there’s no way he could’ve known. also, AGAIN LIKE SOMEONE ELSE SAID, it’s considered rude not to go to WORK GATHERINGS, HE WASNT EVEN GOING TO THE BAR FOR PLEASURE IT WAS FUCKING BUSINESS. NONE OF THIS IS HIS FAULT. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL AND INTO YOUR TINY, VICTIM BLAMING BRAIN

hi you're really ignorant lmao u know so many women who literally did nothing but walk down the street who are completely clothed get raped just as much as victims who were drunk or wearing revealing clothing. victim blaming does nothing except normalize rape even more. i know you're not endorsing the action but saying that "rape always happens and it's inevitable" just normalizes the action of rape in society's eyes. rape can be prevented, but only if you fix the rapist's side, not the victim's. a rape victim could take every single precaution and still get raped. so even if you think the situation can be prevented, in reality, the rapist would still be a rapist.

can you please stop. IT IS NEVER THE VICTIMS FAULT AT ALL. EVER. it is ALWAYS and FULLY the rapists fault. stop victim blaming. it's pathetic. stop trying to justify the actions of the rapist and undermining their role in this situation.

exactly.

jesus this is so well-said, but i think op is way too stupid to understand what you are telling them. but i completely agree with you.

exactly. like how tf can anyone justify rape and then blame the victim on top of that. it's disgusting.

i cannot believe you actually believe this. pls educate yourself.

stop blaming the victim for being a normal human being and getting drunk, blame the rapist for taking advantage of someone whos so intoxicated, ppl like u r the reasons why real life victims dont want to speak up ur disgusting lmao stop victim blaming

yes, EVERYONE is pointing out that you're wrong. maybe instead of being ignorant you can ask yourself why. maybe, just maybe, you ARE wrong. and maybe you'd get support if you educated yourself and stopped victim blaming...

i don't wanna be harsh because by your thought process i can tell that you're a child, so please do yourself a favour and educate yourself and stop your backwards thinking.

Woah...rape is NOT inevitable

Oh but the victim still isn't at fault lol. Even if u say they should b cautious they shouldn't lol cuz they have the right not to?

What's that suppose to mean?????

Selfish? Why?

But it's too shortt ╥﹏╥

Yeah but hart said that last name in this chapter and Jasper had no reaction. However it could be a fault in the translation and he truly hasn’t mentioned it yet ╮(￣▽￣)╭

its supposed to be just light fluff

maybe bcs it's still the beginning