Honestly this is so good, this how good toxic stories should be written, where both are equal crazy and infatuated with each other
Wait who's Choi Simon? Idr his name being mention before
Ngl I remember not agreeing with others saying they wish the Beta cheated but I only disagreed if he cheated first lol I completely understand if after because it's very obvious this alpha does not give a damn about him and makes him feel so lonely. I hope the alpha gets a taste of his own medicine
I never question people on what they read and complain about because we all are curious on how things go but damn, most of yall aren't even reading the story properly anyone and speak out yall asses. How dare yall say for the story end with Yahwi and Jooin so Cain be happy somewhere else. Do yall not read? Cain would literally stay by Jooin said whether Jooin chooses him or not. And how dare yall to say speak badly on Jooin who's finally a uke who's not being easily swayed and is just as conflicted with his feelings. Jooin doesn't need someone like Yahwi and it's so sick yall just want him with someone who abuses him because Cain could possibly be hurt. Cain would be so disappointed in yall. I know he's fictional but yall stan him but don't understand him.
What's there to understand about him? I was crazy about Cain when he first appeared, but as time went on, I realised he's one of the most boring, one-dimensional characters I've ever seen. Okay, he simps for Jooin. What else can you say about him?
Judging from you're comment you don't sound like a stan for him anymore, I'm speaking about one's who are but dismiss the points to his character by insulting Jooin. You think what you think but to me, he's not boring nor one dimensional. I noticed readers like to call decent guys boring when they don't have traumtic backstories or lack aggression. Sorry Cain is just a normal person who acts normal.
Why tf are you projecting your bad experiences on me? Lmao I don't thinking he's boring because of his peaceful nature and lack of tragic backstory. I think he's boring because he doesn't want shit except being with Jooin. Notice how in one of the specials, when he was asked about basic stuff he made every answer based on Jooin's. Which means he can't even answer simple questions without dragging him into it. But sure, just believe in your delusions so that your image of Cain is not damaged.
I get why you'd feel Cain stan is projecting such sentiment and why you'd question their support toward him. I've been reading some of the comments as well and believe me, Cain stans are not trying to push for Yahwi and Jooin to end up together. The reality of the fact is that they've all come to a conclusion that the author of the manwha has been feeding all of us a certain narrative. Yahwi and Jooin are the end game no matter what or who they bring into the story. If you've read the second arc of the story, after the hiatus, you can clearly see how the author has been trying to fix the awful doing Yahwi inflicting on Jooin. Basically, for more than two months, all we got was sobby Yahwi victim tripping on Jooin because of his past trauma. Sure many will argue that Cain is not a saint either, well, I'll say to those people Cain did not abuse, rape, manipulate, emotionally/psychologically drain Jooin to the ground and then later use what had happened to him in the past to excuse his behavior toward Jooin. So Cain stans see how the author is trying to erase that moment (which was traumatizing for Jooin) to turn Yahwi into the perfect man. Plus when they see that Jooin, does not use a firm NO to push Yahwi away, it's like getting tired of hearing the same excuse over and over again. At the end of the day, Cain stan, are now accept, without saying it's OK, the narrative that the author has been feeding all of us. This is more like: "We know where you are trying to go with this story, just get there quickly because this dragging crap is getting embarrassing or annoying".
I am not a Cain stan but I'm on the side of respect and in this story between all three of them, Cain has more respect for himself and Jooin. Sure people will say: "but Cain lied to Jooin so that he could stay at his place or We don't know much about him or so forth and so on". I'll say, well nobody told the author to spend half of the second arc destroying this manwha. He could have covered Yahwi's past story in two to three chapters and then moved on to something more interesting to build work on the character development. But, he didn't do that. All he did was try to fix someone who was unfixable at that moment. Not that Yahwi does not deserve redemption; of course he does. It's just that his character development was a flop.
At least that hos I Cain's stans reactions look to me.
?? Tf? I ain't even projecting nor do I have bad experience. Gtfo here. The last part was in general I said "I notice readers" I wasn't specifically talking about you. Like stfu already. "Delusions" please aint nothings damaged, you act as if i put him on a pedestal. And you're talking about the Q&A where Cain around that time was not fluent in Korean. Plus is wasn't meant to be taken serious the authors used it as a gag and pun. Most of yall are so stuck in S1.
This is actually a nice imput thank you for sharing. It's understandable now, and I didn't see it that way. Thank you for giving a different perspective
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Anytime, I'm glad I could help
I can't with people saying it needs Ben in a poly or a threesome. It's crazy to think Cain would ever be part of any kind of relationship with Yahwi, even if he willing to stay by Jooin side. Cain does not like that man.
And neither do we, amen
LMAOOO
Notice how devastated Jooin looks by one international call compared to the constant pity story Yahwi keeps giving him. I think that says a lot on how Jooin feels. I hope what Cain saw doesn't make him back down and actually even brings it to Jooin too since Jooin was kissed while exhaustedly sleeping
I'm pretty sure Jooin is scared for his life bc the brother must have threatened him or something.
I put this story down for one minute and come back to this!? Did my boy Gilles do something bad? I hate when when characters like him get the end of the stick. I wonder what happens to him in the novel. Gilles can't be that bad compared this Irritating ass ML.
Edit: okay yea that's a bit weird but I'll look the other way, he's an innocent virgin guy who got hot and bothered. I mean this one thing compared to the ML trashy behavior and even putting chole in a horrible situation. I'll take Gilles.
CP Micheal is so handsome and kind, it's a shame he has to deal with this (same goes for Keira) because adults can't be adult. But I do understand Isaac, he wants justice for his sister, I just wish he didn't involve Keira and her mother about her birth when it's the grandfather at fault.
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Now about Joseph I wasn't gonna comment on it but I saw so many twist Joseph character on twt and a tiny few on here. Here Joseph is being aggressive, there's no lie there but yall are only thinking of it as jealousy when that is NOT the case.
Joseph is kept in the dark about Keira plans and her fight with Cosette as Keira doesn't want him involved as she does not want him to sacrifice himself as he was willing to do in their first life were he was risking his position and could be considered a traitor for her. (ch.41-43)
So as someone mention, all Joseph has is his suspicions and assumptions. He's being alert as a knight should be for his ladyship. He does not know Erez and is very cautious of him as when they first meet Keira had a negative reaction to Erez (ch.32). Joseph knows his place as he said "I no right to get involved" but he warns Erez that IF (key word IF since he does not know) he's the reason Keira mood was off the past days, he, Joseph, won't stand by. As readers we know and Joseph is correct despite he himself not knowing the full story.
All Joseph is doing is being sure his ladyship is safe. You think he should just ignore what happen that day as a knight?
Also before anyone brings it up, yes part of it could be jealousy, as before Joseph has said he wants to be more helpful, thats were we saw bits of jealousy, so he feels like hes not doing his job, thats why he, according to others, "beg" for Keira to let him be useful to her than relying on someone he's cautious of.
And unlike Erez, Joseph no powers and he is human, with that he shows more emotions than Erez. He acting as anyone should be as a knight and as a human.
I apologize if I didn't write things in order and have mistakes. I don't mind others sharing there opinions too but I'm just sick others saying Joseph is only jealous, mad and that he doesn't try when that's it, that's not what's fully happening.
Also I would give credit to someone kind enough on twt who allowed me to use some of their points, they're not comfortable with putting their @ but they made a nice thread explaining things too.
Thank you for explaining things some readers can miss. Some tend to focus on one part than the overall picture. My friend told me about the twt drama and It makes me sad people made Joseph out as someone who isn't considerate. So it's nice seeing others properly defend him and thank you for defending him without bringing down another character. The fandom has a problem defending one while bringing down another. I also blame the process the author is doing too, she drag it out for far too long and it's causing so much heated tension within the fandom. tt and IG got so much worse since chapter 104.
Back to the writing process I already see what the author trying do and I don't like it especially how she wrote the beginning of Joseph to now, I could go on for hours pinpointing but honestly it's no use seeing how much change the author did (not necessarily in a good way)
Thanks for sharing your point of view, I never really thought to think of it that way. I'm still sticking with my view that he was being needlessly nosy, but I now understand why it was so.
No problem, it's best to always share our thoughts from different perspective. Though maybe being needlessly nosy might help but I won't lie. I do feel like the author gonna take it too far and ruin his character as a knight. Since her direction implies many negative things lately. So I'm not shocked many say what they're saying but at the same time it's frustrating because it also implies thing from past chapters many do no remember which are positive.
Anyway yall can complain about the author but I know they're saving something for us. Like why are they showing all of Yahwi backstory/ground now if he was indeed the ML? We still have unanswered backstory/ground for Cain. And the author obviously is writing Yahwi more pathetic and showing us how irritated Jooin is with him why would they do this when we are close to the ending of the last season? They're up to something.
Don't make me delude myself into thinking that cain has a chance i alr gave up hoping
Honestly out of all the love triangle bullshit. Ytc really does give both guys a chance especially Cain. That's what a love triangle should do but instantly know who endgame is lol. It may be frustrating but the author are doing a good job ngl
Should do instead** of knowing instantly who endgame is
I forgot about the this, I'm a slow reader but judging by comment there was no actual misdirect with kwando? He legit did kiss pink hair, it was one sided? And actually talk bad behind FL back? I thought the author was tricking us because the flashback as kids, he genuinely look like he cared for FL? I was trying not to be bias because I like to see different view points but damn is really trash?
Um maybe I should read to make my own opinion, the comments are angry and when angry we become bias asf
I don’t even understand it tbh. I’m trying to understand his characters but there is no progress or his actual POV yet. I thought he cared for FL too from the scenes before he kissed with pink hair and bad mouth FL….
I don’t think he’s trash trash but somewhat trash. To me it seems like he just feel superior and want to own her??
It was not him who badmouthed her. He was just giving company to the pink hair and not defending fl
Which is the same as agreeing with Pinkyyy （/TДT)/