Cain might be sus and and hiding something but he has never hurt Jooin. Yall can come for Cain for being in the dark but doesn't change the fact that he's still a green flag compared to Yahwi who emotional and physically hurt Jooin. Now, Jooin said he needed time when Cain asked him for a relationship, understandable, but I swear if it's rushed with Yahwi I'm be so mad. Like how can you tell one to wait while not with the other. Because of a cliché car accidents!? *rolls eyes*
All they can ever say to cain is that he's a dog how arw they believing what cain is saying though, it's Literally going to shift into some fantasy historical kind of shit if he rlly was a dog. If it does, does it rlly matter? He's a human now not a dog lol
I kinda disagree with the cain greenflag thing though, i stan cain but he rlly isnt that green. He's still sussy, we don't know if he's unconsciously manipulating jooin or if hes rlly doing it on purpose
He's like 60% green and 40% red, he's manipulative and does guilt trip jooin but it does not do jooin any harm, it's just so jooin won't hate him or something yahwi on the other hand, does manipulate and guilt trip jooin that harms jooin bcs he actually gets violent
I didn't say he is a green flag himself, I said compared to Yahwi he's more green than him. Cain isn't manipulative (yet) but he has lied a few times, currently his lies aren't manipulative. And I agree it's stupid they keep bringing up he's a dog as if they don't compare Yahwi to a damn cat. What they gonna do if it's revealed he was an actualy cat in the past life?? I swear his stans don't think. We have alot of yaoi BL's of the seme turning human and they're pretty well stories, I bet they liked them but only hate it because it's a character better than their asshole they love
YEAH I KNOW RIGHT??? I SAW YEEHAW STANS ON TWT AND MANGAGO SAYING ABOUT HOW AWFUL CAIN IS TO BE THE EG BCS HES A DOG WHILE THEYRE READING/POSTING ABOUT HOW THEY READ FURRIES OR THOSE ANIMALS TURNED INTO HUMAN STORIES WHAT THE HELL
Looking back at this, the writing was so inconsistent, the characters become OOC with so many switches up to their personalities. I don't want hate Daon because he's been manipulated and gaslight by 2 assholes his whole life but he was so frustrating, as if the author did know how to properly write characters like him. Their lack of writing made him get so much hate.
The ending was realistic, all that trauma isn't gonna disappear but it was so unsatisfying. I seen realistic ending but none of them were so pitifully written.
I do have a feeling the creator's rushed this ending due to the fandoms, especially the korean fandom. It would've been best if they took a long break to get things organized rather then end it, it's obvious they lost motivation for the story and I don't blame them.
I really hate how they put all the blame only on Jaemin at the end when it shouldve been on Soohyun too. I definitely feel like they changed Soohyun character from how they originally wrote him because he was more favored in the korean fan base because how tf are you gonna tell me Daon is scared shitless of him due to the incident back in college then fucking show us the incident and Daon not even scared of him, even after a few days of the incident...I'm telling yall they changed his character at last minute to make him less problematic than Jaemin due to his popularity idk why he was the first to lay his sobby hands on Daon and s3xual assault him because he got angry.
I feel bad for Sunghyeon because he wasn't give the ML treatment everytime he got moments of him it was quickly overtaken by either Jaemin or Soohyun. And the build up to the business trip was so anticlimactic. For a whole season to keep mentiong it then for it to end in 1.2 chapters ridiculous. They gave too much screentime to the assholes than the actual ML.
This story had so much potential but it got ruined and that fault it the korean fandom.
I hope people stop with the whole ML thing. The author already said she doesn't see it nor gave a ML or 2nd ML. Yes there's an endgame but the story isn't focus on romance and the main character is Moran (fl) and that we will see each characters story unfold.
Just because we see more of one character now doesn't mean we won't see the other characters less, their turns will happen.
I always see ppl say that Moran has more chemistry with Siho than Jeha like no fucking duh, both have been alive for thousands of years together. But there chemistry doesn't feel nice(?) because obviously it's one sided so I don't see the chemistry many keep mentioning when all we see of Moran is be indifferent to Siho and persistent to Jeha who just wants to back away from her. So can we please focus on the story instead of some ship simce each ship is obviously lacking.
Sigh...the author really needs to not have a same face syndrome. If yall look at the author other works where they were the artist you can instantly tell who's ML and who's 2nd ML this would've been more fund if they didn't constantly have the same default design.
Wait I can’t tell who’s the 2nd ml
If you look at all the other author works where they're the artist you can instantly tell who's gonna be ML and 2nd ML. Gibaek is the common setup for their 2nd ML design
at least the personalities are swapped around this time, cheong’s persona reminds me of taku and gibaek is more similar to jowoon
Oh now that you pointed out, yea you kinda right but there's still a little something I don't really see in Cheong as Taku
I heard that l3zh!n has the uncensored version where the lightsabers are drawn not white out but someone said they're ugly and not pretty edit: they updated it with a proper uncensored now. I'm curious how the old one looks like tho
I WAS FLABBERGASTED WHEN I SAW THE UNCENSORED VERSION IN THE EARLY PEAK OF THIS MANHWA I remember how I was so damn relief when it become lightsabers eventually
I do admit Keira is not well written compared to her novel counter part. She feels less mature and depends on other too much. I prefer the novel as romance wasn't even a subgenre and didn't make Keira seem like a silly fool. I still care for her tho but I'm allowed criticize the author way of writing her in the manhwa.
Now, I see so much hate against Keira I know most are lying that they don't hate her because she pushed away the ML candidates because that's exactly why yall hate her. And they way yall attack both ML's is silly too, both these guys are well written and kind (Novel wise these two mf barely pop up). Stop hating on these three when honestly they're not even bad. They're allowed to feel how they feel.
The hate got worse due to one showing more ML hints and his stans are being more aggressive so all I'm say is that yall need to fucking humble yourselves because originally he's not as kind in the novel and be luckily Yuun (manhwa author) changed him up.
Honestly, yes i am mad at everyone, and just as you have the right to feel the way you do, so do i. I don't hate them, nor the characters nor the author, and as i said in a comment, i actually really like them. i really don't think they are all developed that well, but it's just my opinion. I don't care wich one is the ML, i don't care who appears more than one (even if in my comment it seems i do, i don't, i just feel an irritation everytime Joseph appears, and i don't even know why, because i do like him), i'm just here for the story and for Keira, since she is my favorite character, and that is why i'm mad (beyond my thinking about the romance overshadowing the main plot, in my opinion, of course) she just became a damsel in distress sometimes and so focused on the MLs and whatever feeling she is having for them, other than that she seems like an overall confused person sometimes and almost doesn't seem like the same character. So please, don't generalize the situation. Specially because just like Joseph is not as developed in the novel, Erez was not this good good person he is here in the manhwa, at least from my memories, so that was not my point. I don't even know much why am i this mad and giving so much of this energy at a manhwa that isn't even completed, or at your comment, since you said it for everyone in here, not me in particular, but i am. I just answered because, yes, i felt attacked by your comment, not that you care of course, since i didn't lie about my feelings, and if i do need to humble myself because i wrote what was in my heart, as someone who really likes this manhwa and the novel, so do you, since everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I do agree, however, that some comments are a little too angry. I just wanted to let this go from my heart once and for all. Let's just agree to disagree. So, sorry for anything, peace above all.
I made my comment before I read your comment. But I did shift it a bit after I read yours because how you basically came for Joseph. So I copied and paste the last part from my previous comment where I said the same thing.
I made my comment because I kept seeing ppl attack Joseph and say they don't hate Keira or Joseph, then right after literally attack them or express how they actually dislike them, esp Keira when they say she not a good person simply because she is pushing away and keeping distance (from both). I seen hate from both side but currently it's from Erez stans. I made my comment in general, not because of you. Sorry you felt that way but I'm just tired of others acting neutral when they aren't. Most of the things I see ate from tiktok and IG, especially on IG. IG is the worst one.
Yes, i'm sorry as well, that's why i explained i felt attacked and apologized for my comment even if it was not directed at me. I understand you, some people trespass the boundaries sometimes with their hate, so i get it. You don't need to apologize, you have the right to say what you said, just as i did. Thank you, and i apologize once more for anything. Hope everything becomes fine in the end. ૮(˶•ᵕ•˶)੭
Read through the comments and Ik some of yall don't like Jooin (honestly idk why) but I can't even understand how yall can say that BOTH tops deserve better. How does Yahwi deserve better when he is the abusive one!?!?!!!...JOOIN is the one who deserves better. Yall got me fucked up saying a terrible red flag deserves better than a MC who's just naive and trying figure his way and his feelings
Now different topic;
I remember someone made a good analysis on how Cain could be endgame but with the hate the creator's got from a Yahwi stans I feel like the 100% gonna do a switch and make Cain the bad guy
Fucking right. The uke is the one deserves someone better! I bet Yahwi is the endgame... *Sighs*
The most boring cliché troupe has been used. Most likely the only way to give Yahwi his development and become changed since he never showed us his maturity. They had use this troupe to give Yahwi a moment since he never gave us anything this whole time. That's how bland of a character he is. This was probably made to make Jooin feel guilty and forget all the nasty things Yahwi did to him, so disappointing. And as someone said Yahwi only good for pity because this be the 3rd time they try make us feel bad for him when he hasn't give any proper development.
Anyways, I hope this incident at least makes Jooin remember his past life because I need to know what's up with that.
Oh and if Jooin gets amnesia I'm be piss.
EXACTLY
I been thinking, Cain definitely is hiding something and he definitely seems to have a more aggressive personality when things get in his way (who wouldn't) but he doesn't seem problematic. He could be a obsessive red flag but he's not one who will ever hurt the one he loves. For an example, I'm not saying he's the same at all, but the seme, Pil-gyun from Miscreants and Mayhem (Open Board), he's a red flag and obsessive but he's never hurt Namu (uke). I think Cain is like. He's a sweet obsessive seme who's red flags are slightly starting to show but he's not a problematic one. What do yall think?
I had say someone mention it on twitter and it just had me thinking about it and wanted to share it.
Ive got so many theories in my head about what cain is hiding and the theory that im holding on rn is that he doesn't rlly have bad intentions and just love jooin, bcs we all seen his brothers right and they seem like the most sane character in the entire manhwa, and cain has parents so theres a hugh chance that he's raised in a healthy family. I agree the hes kinda obsessive/possesive red flag type but DOES NOT HURT THE UKE hes half red flag and half green lol
EXACTLY!!! Wish there was a way to like replies because me and you are on the same wave link
Tomorrow is update day, are yall ready for the clicheness that's about to happen!?
*insert opera screaming to the crowd with a microphone*
Yeah its so predictable or is it? Its either yahwi gets hit or jooin gets hit or its none of the above bcs yahwi might pull jooins qrms and save him idk i just know that im about to get cyberbullied by yahwi stans again on Facebook for literally one comment that is pointed out on yahwi(which is true)
Omfg there's Facebook ytc?? Facebook the worse breed when it comes to bl's
YES THEY'RE WORSER THAN TWT I SWEAR MOST OF THEM ONLY LOVES YEHAW FOR HIS LOOKS, THEY ALSO JUSTIFY R4PE THERE SAYING "ITS NOT RAOPE BCS JOOIN MOANED" THEY ALSO MADE A "JOKE" ABT HOW THEY WISHED A CAIN STAN WOULD GET R4PED ON THE STREET THEYRE THE WORST IM GLAD THAT YTC GROUP WHO ONLY FAVORED YAHWI ISNT QCTIVE ANYMORE.
U CANT LIVE A DAY ON FACEBOOK AS A CAIN STAN BCS THEY WOULD ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO CYBERBULLY YOU THERE( IM NOT GENERALIZING ALL YEEHAW STAN) FILIPINO YEEGAW STANS ARE THE WORST KIND
THE ONLY CAIN STANS U CANT FIND ON FB ARE SPANISH PPL
You can find*
Just recently got cyberbullied bcs i said yeehaw brings bad luck everytime he's with jooin which is very much true