Yes, I liked it.
It makes sense now why Jaekyung didn’t tell us about his past, because even he knows it means nothing. What he did to Dan, he did in the present, so naturally he needs to reflect on that and figure out how to fix his mistakes. Not once he use his past to excuse his behavior and THAT tells me he is willing to change, for the better, for Dan.
That’s the kind of reflection and development I was waiting for. Such a good chapter!
its hilarious actually that the coach have to basically spelled it to him, yep he is dumb like that but I still need to see reflection, development, him feeling sorry for what he had done
It makes sense why Jaekyung turn out to be a freaking a$$hole but so? Nothing in these 3 (that's way too many) chapters justified or tells WHY he chooses(because it was a choice) to be such a d!ck to Dan.
I suggest y'all re read but if you don't want to:
1. Uses Dan's financial situation to manipulate him
2. Exposes Dan to a stranger while having s3x because he was "jealous"
3. Had s3x with Dan after he was badly injured and it caused his rear to tear.
4. Accuse Dan of trying to sabotage his match without having any proof
and that's half of it, he has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and I'm not saying this just because, I want to see what Mingwa is going to do because it's a hard one and it takes a good writer to know how to make the audience believe their deserve to be together. If after this Dan's warms up to him then this is not worth it anymore.
He simply wasn't raised properly and has no sense of morals. He got where he got thanks to his own effort and endurance so he got used of doing things his way. It's not about WHY he did that, it's about HOW he'll learn to care about other people i.e Dan, which is something he's never experienced before. Well except for the gym granny which translates to his compassion towards Dan's granny. That's about it.
He is a full adult, blaming his upbringing its understandable until...maybe 18 when he was selling drugs but now? nah and we didn't need to know HOW he turned out to be this way, we needed to know WHY (and also nothing about his supposed "jinx").
He did not abused Dan because of his bad childhood? Come on now.
You don't get it. He had a total of 0.3 adults care for him throughout his whole childhood. He has no concept for compassion and knows nothing about caring for another human being. Since no one cared for him either. In his mind the way he acts makes total sense because no one taught him otherwise.
And if we wanna interpret his case paychologically, Jaekyung created an "asshole" persona as a defense mechanism to protect himself from more shocks and letdowns. That's one way people would react when they go through some shitty situations in life. He might even blame himself for his father's death because he links it to his victory. So he chose to distance himself from people and be a jerk, subconsciously of course. Also mistreating people because that's how he's been treated, as if taking revenge. And that doesn't change neither before nor after 18 honey. He needs to get over his past traumas and heal in order to grow.
And FYI most people with psychological disorders are not even aware of them. They find their actions to be "normal". It's the people around them and their daily interactions that lead them to seek treatment. But since he's a pro at being violent and earns money from it, people just dismiss it as "his character" and don't look too deep into it. Also no close people to call him off, so how would he get any better?
As for his jinx, exactly why are we supposed to know EVERYTHING all at the same time? The series is still ongoing.
Jaekyung is NOT mentally ill baby, he is just an asshole. Also that's so low because not all people who are mentally ill do awful things to other.
Using the excuse that no one taught him how to a decent fucking human being, does not makes sense since someone did. Remember, we know his sob story from his trainer, someone who lend him a hand.
He was not a loving parent but he was a figure that tried to straightened Jaekyung's life and he did actually so Jaekyung may not have "healed" from his past but he definitely moved on. He met someone who was the same as he was and instead of trying the be a decent human being, he chooses to torture him even more, he became just like his father, picking on the weak, he chooses to forget that he was once like Dan. All of that can't be justified with "he didn't know how to act", let's be fucking for real.
To think that a coach who trained someone for a few years (was it 3 to 5 years at most?) can replace both their mom and dad is beyond me.
He's not a father figure, he's a coach who stopped looking for him when he didn't visit for training.
How can you tell that he moved on? We've known that he has insomnia from the start. And his jinx might be another coping habit he created to not feel lonely.
I don't care if you like him or feel sorry for him or whatever. This is human psychology. His past story might seem a bit extreme and forced but you can't deny that that kind of past would shape something like what jaekyung's personality is like.
And in the end it's up to you to appreciate the story as is or leave it.
Aaand yet in today's chapter we saw them talking and Jaekyung taking his advice....so is the coach an important figure for him or not? Knowing Jaekyung he would not take advice from someone he doesn't care about.
His jinx was what it always was, another mean for him to win and feel he worth something, he need that to win because winning makes him feel better. That's it.
I love how just today all of this was answered.
Jaekyung is not human bro, he is a fictional character and is subjected to a story and a narrative, we see what the author wants and she want us to feel sorry for him, she want us to justify him and I'm allowed to call that lazy writingm
Woah sorry bro, I didn't notice I was debating with a kid with shallow reasoning. What age are you? 13? I'm out.
Am I? I'm not the one leaving a debate because I have no argument. What does this have to do with anything I said?
like come on, this doesn't justify nor tell me anything.
The only nice thing I can say its "that's rough buddy" but are we forgetting he exposed Dan to a stranger? He let a stranger watched them having s3x without Dan knowing, that's abus3 and it was never brought up again. I bet Mingwa doesn't even remember it then again, its not Jaekyung who's telling us his story, its the coach so we still don't know anything about him.
Likeeee!!!!!
I habe no empathy nor sympathy for this character. Let's wrap it up ho back to the present and watch him grovel
true. while I feel bad for Jaekyung going through this shit, it doesn't justify his actions towards Dan. What happened to him back then wasnt his choice. but what he did to Dan was his choice.
yes, we can feel bad about kid Jaekyung and understand his struggles but adult Jaekyung...no thanks
exactlyyyy, two chapters is one too many because what do I do with this info? come oooon
I cannot feel empathy for someone who loses his temper because he sees someone depressed being depressed...
Dan is not healthy, he is not well mentally and this dude just abuses him? and then he reflects on it ok but that's your first reaction?
And he still blaming everybody but himself, he bought all of this upon himself until he did some serious reflection on EVERYTHING that happened till now and how he abuses Dan. I do not care for anything.
Dude is like 50% the reason Dan is in this condition
we don't know nothing about jaekyung and dan....70 chapters in
dan and jaekyung don't have a relationship outside of sex and they don't have nothing in common either
dan said he was in love with him but after jaekyung gave him a reality check, he dropped his feelings, he is obviously hurt but more because jaekyung did not trust him rather than jaekyung not loving him and jaekyung...he is an asshole, he only wants to fuck, period
I love it when people smell the kool aid
I don't understand
I shortened it from “wake up and smell the kool aid”, which references the saying to “wake up and smell the coffee”. Both mean the same thing, to realize the truth about your or somebody else’s situation (aka realizing jaekyung is just an asshole and doesn’t actually want good things for Dan). The saying can also reference the poisoned juice used in Jonestown, which killed like 900 people (I think that’s why the saying changed from coffee to kool aid, but I’m not sure). This can change the meaning a little bit to be “wake up and smell the masked poison in front of you”.
I was basically saying I was glad somebody else realized how bad the writing is and that jaekyung sucks.
Oh ok! I'm not from the US so I had no idea but yeah the writing is awful.
mingwa has absolutely no idea on what to do with the plot...i couldn't care less about the sex scenes, honestly, they are not consensual and they are not hot
also jaekyung's redemption arc is shitty, because he doesn't have any redeeming qualities.
it's not that jaekyung "can't" control himself, HE DOESN'T WANT TO
he knows everything already, he knows dan has hit rock bottom, he knows he is not healthy neither mentally not physically and he still chooses to fuck him anyways
it's how him would always put his needs and wants above dan's and it's dan's fault, of course, for tempting him or whatever
Two good chapters in a row? Is this Christmas? OK, seriously now. I liked it.
Jaekyung isn’t going to change overnight. He’s still pushy, harsh with his words, a little clumsy, and comes off as mean. But I like that, because it shows he’s trying hard and wants to change, not just for Dan, but for himself too. When he said “Forget my jinx,” it meant that Dan is as i important as his jinx and his career, but that those aren’t the only things he has anymore. Now he has priorities, and that’s what helps a person grow.
That said, I saw comments saying he’s basically forcing Dan to be with him again and yes, he is. But that’s the only way he knows. He’s desperate because he knows he is one bad day away from losing Dan forever. He wants a chance, and he’s going to create it.
Mingwa may have disappointed me with some chapters, but this one was great, really good writing and characterization.