To be honest, I think Senzaki committed suicide. It could be the translation, but when Senzaki talked about how he couldn't settle for the boring world, how he was going to make a final disappearance, said Tasumi have to come with him and how he would wait, this all gave me the sense that he wanted to leave not to another physical place but to transcend the physical world aka suicide.. What really confirmed my suspicion was when Tasumi visited their old love den and broke down crying screaming "I'm sorry" over and over (for not following him). The guy with the glasses (sorry forgot your name!) can be seen in the panel as he is trying to asked Tasumi what's wrong but is shocked by Senzaki's presence. Howeve, when Tasumi turned around, he wasn't there! Senzaki vows to never let Tasumi be happy and will follow him everywhere, suggesting that he will haunt him. Tasumi lives knowing that Senzaki will never forgive him, giving him Senzaki's feelings of both love and betrayal, something Tasumi can carry on ahhhh. I love their story so much, it hurts. I can't be the only one who thought the same about this or his suicide.
you are very smart, and I agree with your theory. Thanks for sharing.
…and, don't you think what Senzaki invited him for, actually was a double suicide?…In a way, he's a pure character, while all of them has more than one face. He left his family, and that's interesting too, I got he came from a yakuza background, so it shouldn't be so easy for him to simply decide to leave… but he wants a clear end. Will we read something more about him in the future? It wouldn't surprise me one bit.
I thought the same thing like I was sure their story is going to end with death (suicide) also I dont think Senzaki would be able to keep on living without Tatsumi (thus leaving him) since he showed how devoted he was
Interesting interpretation. I noticed there was a picture of an open window, so I think that's Senzacki's exit--but I see how you could read it as a metaphor for suicide.
I thought the same at first ! Really !
But after I red it again and again, I saw, just like "Anoni Grrl" that the window was wide open. It's that kind of detail that makes me understand that Senzaki isn't dead.
The fact that he doesn't fogave Tatsumi means that he's still really in love with him.
But Tatsumi says that he waits until Senzaki ends his breathing...
It makes me feel as if he thinks Senzaki will come and kill him one day, and Tatsumi is ready to accept it
But if Atsumu (I think that's his name) could see Senzaki, that should mean he's still alive right?
Anoni Grrl, I noticed the open window too, but the entire sequence seems strange to me. (Atsumu…. I admit I do not take him seriously - when I see him, I'm automatically so irritated by his presence that I do not play enough attention).
My guess is that Senzaki might have become a demon (even if not a evil one. Let's say a demon that pursues revenge through his love). An entity you can occasionally see with your own eyes, but, who knows. Maybe he's alive, I just like the hypothesis of the suicide more. It would be so much more meaningful, not to mention the opportunity it is Tatsumi, not Karino, the one who'll succeed their father. That would be… interesting, and to me, it might be connected to the strength that comes to him from loosing the one he loves. As someone noticed, he lost his previous cautions. He's free now. He wouldn't be really free, while waiting for Senzaki to come back.
That's what this entire story is about. The freedom that comes from loosing everything you have. Since you've got nothing left to loose… you can be the King of the world by destroying every single obstacle.
Once you've got something precious you have to take care of it, somehow, I mean, even Kuze realizes that, even though I cannot honestly say his caring is too careful and he can placidly go to hell any time, according to me.
This leads us directly to one point: is Azusa "something precious" to Karino, or not? Does he have enough value to his eyes to become an obstacle between his wishes and reality?
Sorry for wasting your time reading, I've got nothing to do today. And Jyuriann hit the target, for me.
Yes! I totally agree with everything you said and the double suicide. With the author's style, I think suicide would have been more likely. While the open window may play a part, but just looking at the way they delivered the scene makes me think otherwise. Why would Senzaki make a final disappearance just to come back? That's just not like him and contradictory. Senzaki, like you said is pure, yet twisted. I think the idea that he became a ghost or demon is possible considering the author's writing style. And yes, the theme of the story! I'm glad someone caught that. Thank you ヾ(ﾟ∀ﾟゞ)
Not necessarily, it could signal a ghost or entity. While the open window may play a part, but just looking at the way the author delivered the scene makes me think otherwise. Like my other response, I think it would think it would be out of character / contradictory of Senzaki to comeback when he resolved to make a final disappearance just to come back? Senzaki is pure, unchained yet twisted. I think the idea that he became a ghost or demon is possible considering the author's writing style.
Of course! I think the weight of Senzaki's love and feelings of betrayal would do so. It's not impossible to do so, dead or alive! So it's up for interpretation and I love the author's writing style that allows that. But again, I think it's the idea of Senzaki as an entity who will never let him go or be happy and Tasumi accepting it is a symbol that's pointing us to the theme of the story as Blackdia pointed out. Tasumi is now free and stronger because he lost everything he had. He chose this. And while he lives his life like everything seems to be the way things are, he knows that he can never forget him nor will Senzaki allow that. Senzaki will never let Tasumi be happy without him or for betraying him and Tasumi has to live with that. It's a sense of freedom and grasp that is unique to Tasumi's situation in life, something that become one of his life motivation.
Cool. I kind of like the demon theory, but it would be very different for OC. I think until we see more, we are free to see it how we want to. (●'◡'●)
I see it more and more.
true. Let's just hope to see Karino and Azusa sometime soon.
I fell like I'm asking for too much.
Not too much--I also want them next. I am a bad fan because I confess that when I see a Red Theater update (which isn't to my personal tastes because the uke does everyone except the seme--I get the power game, but it's a turn off for me) I think--"The more time spent on that means less time on Azusa." Of course, OC has the right to spend her time any way she wants and never has to work on the story I care about, but still, I want Azusa too. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
damn, I don't want to built up illusions. I want to keep waiting quietly, and that requires to forget about Azusa. When I read a 20-pages short story that goes nowhere and even insinuates the doubt that the two might end up together, I feel like my usual aplomb is laughing at me straight to my face.
The "I want to believe" path is too emotively expensive for me. But I'll be the happiest around if they finally come back.
I feel you. Well, they will be together in fan fic, if not in canon (but I hope in canon too).
Edit: Thanks for some people and google clearing up what Borderline Personality Disorder is. I see that Yoom Bum has BPD. I probably got that mixed up with Split Personality Disorder. Which could possiby add to Sangwoo's character, tho not canon. I just think it's fun to make a case and adding on to the psychotic sociopath :) This is long and I thank those who read this far in . Spoiler for those who hasn't read this yet...
Few things to notice:
1. Yoon Bum's Home Invasion. After he was caught by Sangwoo, he felt that the Sangwoo he knew wasn't there. Aight, so far nothing cuz dude is fucking crazy amirite?
2. Post-Sexy Time. After their little game of hide the sausage, Sangwoo acts differently to the point that Yoon Bum felt like he was living with a twin with another personality. Yeah, you could say he developed a soft spot for him, but this is a sociopath that probably doesn't even love Yoon Bum. Sorry shippers! I refuse to sympathize because it's unhealthy and Sangwoo is a psychotic murder DESPITE HOW CUTE HE IS arrgghh I love and hate him. Every damn time he gets me like aww look how cute and lov-- WAIT DONT GET ROPED IN. Anyways...
3. The Game. Sangwoo went out and got Yoon Bum a playmate. This guy refers to Sangwoo as Hyunwoo, which throws Yoon Bum off. It could just be an alias, right? I mean, Sangwoo seems to be offputted by gays based on how he calls them homos and stuff. So he needs an alias to lure them or whatever... But what if it's more than just an alias??
4. Car accident and Officer I'm Gonna Get Into So Much Shit. After snooping on the black box film and taking Sangwoo's ID down, the officer didnt even recognized Sangwoo at first (heck I wasn't sure either cuz when the fuck did he drive). He notes that the way he talked and mannerism was completely different from their first encounter... Just good acting skills or something else hmmm???
Edit: I still thought these might have just been loose characteristics of Sangwoo as a psychotic sociopath. This could just be coincidences, but hey maybe he has a slight SPD. Who knows. It might be interesting! Can wait to see more and congrats on reading this far. ° ʖ °
It's kind of obvious he has BPD, because he has unstable emotions and he's afraid of being abandoned. That's the reason he suddenly kept Bum as his mom.
You have to remember Bum's stalking is what got him into this mess. Both of them have their problems but Yoonbum is the one with borderline personality disorder. Check out what the symptoms are http://psychcentral.com/disorders/borderline-personality-disorder-symptoms/
For someone who isn't familiar with it, I guess I was thinking more about split personality disorders. Also I know it must have been obvious to some, while I'm slow on the uptake, buuuttt I wasn't sure whether to just deem this as BPD or this was just him as a psychotic sociopath.
Oh hell yeah. I'm not putting Yoon Bum completely out of fault in the relationship. I just think it's kinda ridiculous the amount of people romanticizing their relationship, especially Sangwoo. Like he's hot, but he's a psychotic sociopath. And thanks for clearing that up! I was thinking more along the line of split personality disorder which can happen? Maybe I never know. It makes more sense for Yoonbum to have BPD.
Yeah, that's a different disorder. I don't think he had that though, because it usually does in very different ways. I have no idea whether to trust the people claiming to have it on YouTube though.
Oh and psychopathy and sociopathy usually has a symptom that shows lack of emotions and sympathy, whereas he has almost too much of both
Hmm I also thought someone being psychotic was them experiencing a disconnect with reality, often times crazed, and sociopath as someone with disregard to people and also having a lack of remorse or conscience. And to me that seems like Sangwoo
Claiming like it's canon? Or just to have fun theorizing. I mean for sure it doesn't show a completely distinct personality, but who knows whether he does have a slight split. I'm waiting to see more but it's fun to speculate :)