Disclaimer: this is a genuine question, I'm just frfr curious about others options
Like genuine question to everyone who dislikes the ML, the story line and still kept reading, why?
I also do this, don't get me wrong, but I am aware of it and I know it's my personal guilty pleasure since I usually am still intrigued by the story, but some people genuinely hate how this is going so why bother?
Second question, why do you dislike these kind of stories yet keep reading them? + if you dislike it, are you aware that it's personal taste and not because the story has to be necessarily bad? (You are entitled to dislike things)
Lots of ppl call it bad but personally I don't see why the story is bad, the characters action make sense, the plot is interesting, you can get emotionally invested, there's no weird pothole or ridiculous action. And by reading the comments it looks like ppl are calling the story bad because the ML is a red flag or they don't like the MC BC they don't like these kind of characters but then.. why are you reading this genre?
Personally I like these kind of stories because I like conflict, I like angst, revenge (everything that does not happen if the characters are flawless from the start) I want all these messy feelings and character development, and as long as the story doesn't get problematic (for example ML doing ) I even welcome red flags, so there is stuff at stake you get me? There would be no plot without it. That's the story.
If I wanted a wholesome immediately 'everything is cute and fluffy, green flag yay' then I would have read something different, not every story can be wholesome and easy. Yes he is an asshole but the pay off will be great, there's chance for character development even for FL, so I do not wish for her to get with the second ML.
PS: obviously my opinion will change if the MC is doing completely dumb things for example IF the ML would cheat on her and she would forgive him or smth like that, for example Operation True love was also great in the beginning but got really dumb imo. BC the development just got bombed and trashed. All the investment for nothing.
disliking one thing abt a story isn’t gonna deter people away from reading it bro and every single time i see people complaining abt others putting their opposite opinion on a problematic story its always “why do you keep reading” how do you know someone is continuously reading after that? genuinely doesn’t make sense you’re putting more time and thought into assuming people are picking bad stories just to shit on them and continue reading them. and also TONS of people lie about story’s on tiktok i’ve literally been tricked into reading incest, so people will leave comments warning people
As someone who does read even if I hate the ml. It's the investment of time. There was some kind of theory behind it but I forgot what its called. Anyway, in the end, we all have different preferences so why tf should it matter? Lmao. Also, just think of it like this— although it's fiction, you think of the mc as a friend. Would you want your friend to go through this? Although even if you do say the "pay off" is great in the end, was he really worth all that? She deserves so much better than that. I also don't really see how ml deserves to be with her after what he put her through.
You can also read dramas with conflicts and angst with an ml who's NOT a red flag???? I don't really see how that's supposed to be point lmao. This is not just about the manhwa being "wholesome" and "easy", it's that the ml was problematic in our pov. But I guess you wouldn't get that because you think differently from us, which I don't understand as well but okay ig?
Tbh I said everything in the comment already so
I said in the comment myself that I also read stuff that I hate, and I'm aware that I do it out of guilty pleasure, but I just don't comment BC I know other ppl enjoy it and ALSO you said in your comment yourself that everyone has different preferences so why are you contracting yourself immediately by saying that there can me drama without conflict. Yes I'm aware, I said it in my own very comment, it's great that there's diversity on stories, because that's my point, not every story can have the same plot right?
Also I never said he's not a red flag, when have I said that, I know he's a read flag, like huh? But so there's a gap for character development and growth, I don't get why everyone is so pissed and get so offensive over that question, yes of course I understand why wouldn't I? Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I don't get it.
I mean just because I like lemons because they're sour, and I like them, doesn't mean I don't get it.
Tbh, I didn't have any sleep so I probably misunderstood the red flag part. And tbf "having drama without conflict" does sound contradicting at first glance, but my point was: there can be drama without toxicity. I answered the question you were so curious about, that was the point wasn't it?
But what was the point of asking these questions anyway?? For what purpose? I don't understand 'cause you act like you're asking questions, but you already have your own opinion that you're set on... Like, you ask but then you proceed to say things that SUGGEST that you're invalidating our views (you didn't say it, but it was heavily insinuated); and justifying the aspects of the story that we don't like (which is our opinion that you say you get). Do you truly get that we have different opinions? Then why are you saying things that seem like you don't? That's our opinion, and yes, I get that you have your own. But you literally said "they don't like the MC BC they don't like these kind of characters but then.. why are you reading this genre?" Lmao. It's honestly so hypocritical of you to say that when you say that you read stuff that you hate.
Guys.. these comments about Cesar like okay if you simp for him just based on his looks (tho for me personally he's so disgusting that not even the looks are making up for it) alright you do you, I guess go enjoy girl, if you want him for YOURSELF.
BUT SOME COMMENTS.. like the fuck?? Wdym RUBY SHOULD HAVE CHOSE HIM or worse.. he should have her?? Are you mental?? We drew some weird asd ppl in this fandom
Hate the development fr. Like what the actual fuck.
Idk man, I love angst but not when fricking rape is involved, it could have been so nice, angsty and full of regret and reconciliation but noooo
So I've been letting it marinated for a bit and will continue to do so, but! sometimes I like to scroll through some chapters that's why I don't understand every plot point since I just fly over it sooo..
Can someone explain to me how he's able to touch her and have sex with her ?? Like from the outside perspective is he railing air? When he cums inside her is it disappearing or is the cum just floating in the air? Does someone has a speculation or guess or maybe there was some explanation in the chapters that I missed? Also he's so fucking hot like that body is shredded??! but did he said something with going to the gym lol??
PLEASE It's itchy in my brain because of these questions!!
ik he has the power to interact with ghost but thats all we know rn LOL
How did I used to like these kinds of dynamics when I was younger like brooo I don't like Nonchalant mfs irl and I guess I I don't like them in fiction either I NEED A YEARNING MAN
Also just me being picky but the smut is kind boring, like how are so many smut which are supposed for the girls still tbh for male gaze like bro yeah sure penetration 24/7 foreplay is just optional
Kinda disappointed, seemed interesting until it was shown that he met her as a child and when they reunited he also treated her like one until "oh boobs she's mature". Also I know it's a me-thing but I don't like the "I'm a innocent pure purr purée virgin who doesn't know anything" trope especially paired with this story and context it just infantilized her more this irkes me. Won't continue this
I agree
Tbf she was literally raised in a temple, so it makes sense that she wouldn't know much about sex or sexuality.
Yeah no I get that, I understand that the story tried to say oh it makes sense she's a church girlie
that's why I said it's a me-thing/preference
Because I don't like this kind of plot-drive because it feels like "okay how do we get her to be as innocent as possible" -> let's tuck her into church so she can pass the purity agenda
Fair enough, you're entitled to your own opinions and preferences :)
This is such a brainrot story lmao, idk I've been just cringing and then I scrolled through the raws and somehow I noticed that the plot could have been straight out of the game 'degrees of lewdity' and then the manwha stopped being too cringe hahahah
oh my god dol mentioned
what is it?
I found my people
A.. hardcore nsfw pixel RPG game
It's kinda extremely hard to recommend BC it's niche and kinda very "extrem" depending on the player
it's really not for the faint hearted... I was so stressed out and traumatized when I first played the game. Learned that you shouldn't be too attached to the PC... now I only play in soft mode lol
Omg sameeeew I was so upset when playing that for the first time, literally every time I play it I only want to date someone and make money that's it, respect to all who grind the most unethical and most disturbing way
Also lmao! Saw we have the same manwha in our "want to read list" hahaha
DoL mention yayy!
omg dol mention!! i just started playing recently and it is STRESSING ME TF OUT honestly kudos to all the people who are good at the game cause i do NOT know how they do it
I'm just afraid a about the author handling the story atp rn. I'll rip out hair and will glue it onto my eyes so I'll stop reading mangas/manwhas when this story will progress into those annoying ass mf stereotypical cashgrab triangle story
Especially it's a manwha promoted by webtoon, and they have a fair share amount of history ruining specific stories already.
I'm already extremely critical with childhood friends stories as well as love triangle stories, I usually don't read them at all but this one is FR so so good with how ML and FL act and their dynamic and story progress. That's why I'm more disappointed in authors decision to throw in some potential crashgrab Fanservice love triangle.
Some ppl already pointed out that 2nd ML and unnie could have been a great additional B-Plot love story with other angsty themes, especially the themes of regret and him realising what I great girl she is and we love a good boy who regrets his actions and a feel good chasing arc but nope.
Third, those love triangles are usually so ass and suck balls BC of so many reasons or rather BC of how so many authors handle the triangle
A. We all just end up feel extremely bad and bitter for 2nd ML bc for some reason they always end up dying alone BC of eternal love for FL
B. FL for some reasons always gets more annoying, more unlikable, more unreasonable and dumber as soon as the love triangle starts to kick in, as if she lost her brain along the line somewhere
C. usually point B) is like that BC FL gets and Indirect green light to taste test the two ML and decides which one is nicer to have around, so she plays with both of them (doesn't matter of it's intentionally or not but it's frustrating and ass for the reader BC we also like the MLs and don't want them to get hurt)
(D) Especially with smut we get into questionnally, morally very grey areas that sometimes caters to fetishes BC worst case scenario she sleep with both of them and is cherry picking or even worse: she's already in a relationship with one of them and cheats or whatever excuses. For some reason they forgive her or whatever and yeah.
Obviously none of the things listed and ranted above DOES NOT HAVE to apply to the current story since the story is still fairly early in its storyline as well as not having big signs yet. BC usually story show at some point early signs of how the story will likely progress and which vibe it wants to follow until it's irreversible.
I have no mental capacity anymore for a really good story to decline and ending up like Operation true love, true beauty or fucking peach sorbet
True beauty n peach sorbet where ones I loved so much back then… but they also traumatized me
ESPECIALLY peach sorbet
ONMMG SAME SO FUCKING BIG SAME
I wanted to point guns as the authors, BC wtf are you doing ARIANA it started so good end ended in blood bath ball sack
Operation true love went into cashgrab hell (like okay tf 2nd season with probably 200+ chapters will now make another season with love triangle, and they RUINED- R U I N E D the ML he was a BBG now he's just a piece of crap)
And peach sorbet-... I don't know if I want to open that box. I just remembered me screaming at my screen and moa
Tbh I haven’t even revisited Operation true love after the time skip cuz I knew it might go downhill from there
But seeing ur response I’m so fucking scared TT
I tried to have hope but damn… I think I’m just gonna keep ignoring it until it’s completed for my own good lol. Or just not read it n just keep the younger version of ml in my heart
They got together lived happily in school, graduated, got married, had kids, Doha was able to escape from his abusive home n live a better life n get more friends and maybe even a girlfriend, n also dat other bitch stopped bothering them n got the karma she deserved, The End.
As for peach sorbet…. It turned into the most disgusting piece of shit that I don’t think I can even stomachache an actual peach sorbet, ever. I’ve never even had one yet.
Manwha sounded really interesting and refreshing, but I feel like I'm reading a old English book with too many unnecessary pompous and highfalutin sentences and dialogues I want to relax and turn my brain off and with this it's too much to figure out