
I liked her brother but he seems to not understand how horrible his father is to dorthea?? the last few conflicts would have never existed if he hadn't faked amnesia

LMAO NO FR like bby I get you wanna just be a farmer but your sister is being ABUSED and you forcing her into a position just bc you think she's good at it without even asking is putting sooo many ppl in actual danger???
no wonder she killed him in her last life
dude is too pure hearted and honestly kind of dumb.
the power of love and friendship is not going to work here with dear old tyrant

can we stop spoiling shit before it even has 10 chapters out? most of the time y'all are wrong or just parroting something you saw someone else say in a tik Tok comment section that was a kid misunderstanding the themes of a story.
how about we just let the story progress and read it as it develops

there's not even been ten chapters released yet. having the majority of the plot and details spoiled within the first month of chapters is ridiculous. if you want to read spoilers to see if he'll meet your standards you're allowed to do so but don't spoil it for the ones just wanting to read it as it happens.

I've been on the Internet since 2005. it used to be common sense to not spoil things or at least idk use the feature on this site that literally hides spoilers. I should be able to engage in comments of a brand new manwha about the current chapters without having the entire series spoiled within the first month.
I am caught up... with the 8 chapters we have rn. there shouldn't be open discussions about chapters that haven't happened yet

You are so far of that i don't even know why you mentioned that this is just fiction. Dracula is bad and people portrayed him as such, I'm too saying the ml is bad but here you are saying his not, because why would you be against my opinion if you didn't think that whatever the ml has done is fine. He is fictional but your opinion is not. The difference is that he is supposed to be the ML who saves her from her miserable life when he actually is the same as the one that hurt her. Can't I say that he is terrible? Can't I say that his ways are dumb? Can't I say his thinking is dumb? Because he is. The story is build to make you think he is her savior so when that doesn't turn out like that what do you do, despise the story itself and the one that made it, simple as that.

In a work of fiction? Yes you can write about anything lol. And as a rape victim both as an adult and a child, I have zero issues with it being used in literature. Bc again. It's fiction. You can't expect characters to always be angels. Then there'd be no real plot or conflict. If you don't want to read a story with conflicts stay with Disney channel ig?

i mean sure — enjoy rape content, i guess LMFAO. but don’t act like it’s morally neutral or that people criticizing it are the weird ones.
if your idea of “good storytelling” depends on non-consensual sex, that’s not just a writing choice — that’s a pattern worth questioning.
fiction may not be real, but the way people defend these themes like it’s no big deal? that says a lot. enjoy justifying rapists characters because they're just 'fiction' anyway. live, laugh, love rapist characters.

Did I say I enjoy rape? No. I actually do avoid rape in a lot of media. But I'm not going to say it cannot exist in storytelling. It obviously should be handled correctly as well. But that doesn't mean a work of fiction is something that should be banned just bc it has content you don't enjoy. Bc then you're a step away from book burning.
Some of the greatest works of fiction have rape or "immoral" scenes. They still are wonderful works of fiction with a lesson.
I am not justifying a characters actions. I'm just saying that just bc a character is immoral or does something disgusting. Doesn't mean the entire story is evil. The point of characters doing something wrong is to show some kind of growth. Whether it's forward or backwards.
And someone enjoying a story about bad people doesn't make them a bad person.
Because it's just a story.
There was so much rape in the Bible. You want to ban that too?

LMFAOOOO, bro pulled out the bible to defend fictional rape scenes we're not banning anything, we’re literally just critiquing how it's used — especially when it's constant, romanticized, or lazy storytelling, LOL. no one's saying every story with a bad character is evil. we’re saying if rape is used as a plot device over and over in genres like shojou-romance or bl — especially when it’s never taken seriously — then it’s not “thought-provoking,” it’s just overused and harmful. and yeah, people can read whatever they want, but when someone defends rape scenes like they’re necessary for good writing, it says more about their standards than anything else. nobody's book-burning here. we're just asking you to hold fiction to the same standards you hold your own tweets to: if you wouldn't say it out loud without backlash, maybe don’t act like it’s untouchable just because it's in a manga/manhwa. bro's defending a rapist character too much atp. lol, go touch some grass. the bar is in hell.

Why would I hold fiction to the same standards as a tweet. A tweet is a person saying something. A fictional book is a work of fiction. By that argument no one should ever write a book about crime again. Cuz tweeting about killing someone is bad right? So then by your argument we should hold anyone that writes about murder to the same standards.
By your logic.
The Bible is also fictional. And has rape in it. So you can't have both.
No one is defending rape, nor badly written rape scenes. But your comment is that no scenes should ever be put to paper. And why not? Bc it's illegal? Again so is murder.
Murder as a plot device can be used badly too. The dead wife trope is one that comes to mind. Woman in the fridge trope.
Only there to further the plot. We critique those tropes all the time, but they can be done correctly.
I never said it was untouchable and not allowed to be criticized. But good critiques also wait until the full context and story is complete. They look at the whole not the piece. And since this story is not complete... You cannot make a full critique yet.
This is Journalism 101.
And just common sense.
If you want to have this discussion once the story is complete and we both have read it completely, I'm absolutely open to a discussion and a possibility of my opinion changing on how those piece of fiction uses said trope. But I'm not going to cast a judgement until it is complete and I can look at the story arch as a whole. As any good critic would

There has been a misconception. Banning stories that have content that involves certain actions like rape or other horrendous acts was not my intention. I have read stories worse than this, but the storyline was amazing and actually stood by its point, but here ml says one thing and does the other, he says he wants her to be strong and happy but than hurts her, now, in this situation you would think ,if he loves her, then what he is doing it's all for her, making it as a good action when infact he is the problem. Why would you hurt someone you love? We know that if he treats her like what he is doing now, its bad, we can distinguish and call out on mls actions, but the story itself doesn't hold him accountable making it as if he hasn't done nothing wrong. He doesn't like how she was treated by the emperor, this already tells us that there is a perception of bad and evil, but somehow it all rolls over a cliff when ml does it. If I hate the emperor why can't I hate the ml?

Well you're absolutely entitled to your opinion on them but my point is most of the evidence of him being bad is stuff we haven't even seen happening yet. The story isn't over. It's still barely 20+ chapters. My point is more that we wait for things to unfold more before rushing to a judgement. So often I see a new title drop and within the first 3 chapters the comments already have said every plot point and based on how they feel about it can sway a bunch more from not giving it a chance in anyway.
And often I have seen those spoilers be either completely wrong or stripped of all the context the story was going to build up.
Ofc the story hasn't held him accountable yet. We don't even have 30 chapters yet. There's not been Time for him to be held accountable. Stories take time to develop. It won't spoon feed you or tell you what's going to happen immediately.

When you read a book about murderer, do you think of rainbows and strawberries? No, you think about bad people and victims, blood and other terrible things with lots of plot twists. But you in the end know that murdering is bad, and if you read in that story that a man shot a kid you would say that man is bad. That's how it works, just because it's written down doesn't mean it washed off all its meaning. Here ml is awful but somehow they hold him as good and we say he is awful because we know that doing bad things to people makes you a bad person.

I've seen a few in the decade ish I've been on this site. They give a spoiler that's Almost correct but it actually happened in a different way or when the manwha is done they change the ending somewhat. You're allowed to not like him! The newer chapters make me think he's kind of one dimensional but I also know that's just what I'm seeing rn. I can absolutely agree though that this isn't well written in most ways. The progression is choppy and rushed.
I can see how the story could be interesting it's just not being led in a good direction narratively

u keep saying “i'm not defending rape,” but you’re doing a lot of mental gymnastics to protect stories that lean into it before we even get to judge if it’s handled well. nobody said “don’t ever write about rape” or “ban murder stories.” we’re saying: if a pattern in a genre (like obv bl) shows rape repeatedly used as a lazy plot device or romanticized, people are allowed to express concern early— especially when the signs are already familiar. and the “wait until it’s finished” logic only works in a perfect world. u can’t just expect readers to suspend judgment forever, especially if they’ve read dozens of stories and spoilers from the novel itself. good criticism doesn’t require the whole book to say: “this setup looks familiar and concerning.” that is pattern recognition, not censorship. lastly— calling the bible “fiction” to make a point about rape scenes just feels like you’re reaching. you’re not arguing for nuance, you’re arguing for immunity. critique is not censorship. being uncomfortable with how stories handle rape isn’t irrational— it’s what makes us better readers and writers. if u love rapist characters so much because they look good or apparently said 'sorry', u can just say so.

and our point was it's okay for us to be spoiled about what's gonna happen instead of wasting our time reading this crap. do u still don't get it? what's the point of making everyone calm down if the male lead is just gonna be a dick? all that sweet lies just for it to be a let down? if you're eating these kind of set up then you do u, let the people talk shit about how the story is bad.

Holy shit you're STILL going on this??
Seeking out spoilers is not a bad thing. LEAVING out spoilers for anyone to see on a story that JUST started is weird as hell. And has only been something that's happening since 2020. As someone who's older than Google it has always been common sense to not spoil something so new

this is actually the perfect ending, so many focus on bad vs good and evil must die in the end. this is a beautiful way to end it. the punishments are perfect for the roles each played and shows that no matter how much time passes properly apologizing is absolutely important even if forgiveness is not there.
it's only "anticlimactic" bc we're so used to big battles and bloody endings.
bc even the villain was a victim in her own way. this is beautiful and I'm so happy it is wrapping up this way.

THANKKKK YOUUU I feel like so many people are reading this personal-feelings forward or just as a collection of tropes without engaging with the core themes of the story!
I also thought that this ending was perfect for what the story wound up being about and I’m glad that Regina gets to live her freedom with a (groveling) father and (tsundere) little brother who love and value her this time around. Anita (the self proclaimed biggest pushover in the kingdom) got her apology from 3 different generations of the royal family and got a boy that will love her until her end.
Even though I wish we got more insight on wtf possessed the first king to go genocidal like that and a ‘sorry’ doesn’t really make up for it (was he possessed or what), I do love the ‘core’ of this ending and I think it’s really suitable. Hopefully Regina gets to spend the rest of her days work free, spoiled, and looking at her husband’s overly pretty face.

ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU!!!
like the twist that he also apologized tho too late?? in his ROYAL SIGNATURE??? the heartbreak there I sobbed.
it would be nice to know what made him switch up but my assumption is probably just human greed. so quickly can humans forget and obsess over wealth and status. I would maybe even assume some corrupt officials that leaned on him.
to know that he later began to regret what he did so much he left an apology in every time he signed his name in only a language she would know even tho he had no way to knowing it would ever reach her is so bittersweet.
I'm also so glad she twisted it into a banishment for herself. she wanted to be free of that life, and she found an opportunity and took it.
I do hope her father does better at an apology as well bc I feel like he still has a lot to stone for but seeing his switch is absolutely a good sign.
the only other way this could end would be killing the mages and rebellion which is brutal and "right" but not the right this story needs. Anita deserves that apology.
or our mc dying as a way of forgiveness and she deserves a full life of peace and I would hate that ending.
I really do feel a lot of ppl who read these things are children and don't yet have the love for nuance and a non cookie cutter ending. (I mean God I've seen a story drop the first two chapters and someone is already in the comments spoiling the ending of the novel)
this started out so predictable and I'm so glad I had no idea it would end like this.

ok wait shit this is actually really interesting. I'm enjoying the explanation of his revenge from his perspective. it's not just some story it is his life long trauma that he lives with so terribly he doesn't care to die to take down those who hurt his mother. but despite his rough exterior we see he really is an inexperienced young man. and it feels a little real? I've read a lot like this but they tend to feel very cookie cutter plot. there's something about this one. I like. maybe her drunk rambling moment was great to push the story further.
I'm really interested to see how this will continue!
chap 68 absolutely has AI in the building shot
Holy shit i was gonna say its an an image with heaps of photoshop filters stacked on it but looking at it now its sure as hell AI…
that was my first thought but the more I looked at it it clicked it was AI. the way everything is warped and melts into everything else
And it feels hella discouraging :( but i also think it makes sense since S2 feels rushed or the pacing is off (to me at least) that they have to use AI for bg work ╥﹏╥
no fr, super upsetting. I hope the plot picks up soon. feels like it might. we'll see. the AI makes me a lil upset tho. like cmon they have so many other ways to get background shots