Everyone shut the f up, if you don't like the story then fine drop it. But y'all don't need to get all defensive when someone just wants to make a manga of what they want, and not "please the masses" and to all of you saying this is why yoai is hated is probably the fact that it is something that christian people find unholy, this is like saying this is why lesbian yuri is hated so much, so y'all can suck it up, and stop being little social justice heros. Thank you for you r time(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
yaoi is hated because of people like you dumbass
SO true, it's ridiculous how these commenters don't realize they sound like puritans when they complain about mostly women and lgbt doing.. what harmful thing exactly? Enjoying porn that has zero bearing on peoples lives? Fuckers will constantly go "fetishize this romanticize that" about BL but stay quiet about straight dudebro hentai fantasies where MC impregnates a whole school of XX age students.
Pretty much sadly yeah
They are both wrong and people already say stuff against hentai's like that. Why does everyone love to compare that we don't have to discuss a topic because another is worse. Everyone's aware that ___ is worse or not but just because something is worse doesn't mean we are on that topic right now. Right now we're on topic 1 and would like to stay onto topic 1 coz other people are already on topic 2 or we aren't there yet. I've read fucked up hentai so yea I've seen it all lol. Not everyone here reads hentai, only a sum of a few. So obviously they can't discuss a damn topic that's not even on the website we're currently on. Why would we ever? That's like going to a Twitter post about world hunger and then start talking about climate change
What the fuck
you sound like a cis
LMAO u kinda got a point tho
are u fine with gendered terms?
I had a stroke
Some of y'all are just f children, people can choose to date and love whoever they f want, just because someone broke up with a person and get with another person who is that ex's friend doesn't mean it's wrong, like I swear some of y'all aren't mature enough to be on this site, I don't give two shits if it's my friend's ex or my brothers ex, love is love and there is LITERALLY nothing wrong with that, y'all should just shut up and drop this book of you hate it so much. Thank you for your time (=・ω・=)
ikr they acting like a lil bitch for someone who is only watching them. If i had the same trauma as her id do anything to get love. She is doing nothing wrong. I swear all they do is talk and judge just like the women in a old gen and it pisses me off
Why everyone hating the ML so much, maybe it's because we all have 21 century minds and don't realize this was the norm back then today, in the present sure the father is a bitch and the duke is a bit cowardly, but back then the father would be considered somewhat reasonable because his daughter somewhat caused the death of his wife and the disabling of his son, and most people don't think like we do know so they would undoubtedly blame her, plus not everything was fair back then, also there was still slavery, we need to go into this book not with a 21century mind set but a "Olden days" mind set, and in those times things aren't fair a their is a false sense of justice, there are things you can and can't do and there are things that are considered indecent, woman didn't have as many rights, nor did they have any rules against cheating, you all need to understand that in this time period people were handed or torchered and some even went to the guillotine, and some people were even charged for false crimes, and aristocrats could do pretty much whatever they wanted with the right power. You all are so used to female leads acting with 21century mind sets, but we need to realize that things were waaaaaaaayyyy different from what they are know and learn how to handle it maturely, not flip out.(⌒▽⌒)
*Insert not impressed face*.......... Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I still hate her, (no reason just dislike eris) don't try to convince me to like okay I just hate her you know? You can't like everyone and she's just isn't my mind if gal, sorry don't care what team or bullying she faced, I just don't like her......... At all ╮(￣▽￣)╭
*trauma
I feel you, I know people like her irl and I just can't stand them. Σ( ￣□￣||)
This.....this is getting boring, the death trips is already starting to get old, and there is LITERALLY nothing else happening + mc is annoying, planning to drop of doesn't get better soon, also this is getting pretty cliche.#－.－)
Sensei's hole is gonna be demolished after thisΣ( ￣□￣||)
did y'all not see? at the very last it is tagged as yoai （￣へ￣）that's prob why we saw the shlong
No, the tag 'yaoi' just appeared after chapter 25, i think someone reported and asked the admin to add the tag, it wasn't there before
Im sorry to say this but the ML is a literal jackass I don't care what kind of reason he had he still killed the MC, so you know how traumatizing it was for her to watch her family die one by one, also he treated her like shit when she was trying to be nice to him, he IS a MONSTER, and even with the spoilers he is very cruel, I still don't understand how the MC fell In love after all that trauma, but at least she isn't so happy go lucky that she forgives him super fast. Also for this of you who thinks the MC is ''annoying '' for not instantly forgiving deep trauma that she got from him to the point of wanting to kill him then maybe you shouldn't be out in the real world because that's what happens in real life, and they are trying to depict that in this story.
Any link on those spoilers?? I’d like to read them. It seems like an interesting to story bcs it’s realistic in portraying trauma.
No, FL's family is the one that's cruel and MONSTER as you say. Why does ML have to be held accountable for all the hate when he was also a victim himself? If you were him in the time setting the story is, I'm sure you'll also do the same. FL's family literally wants to commit treason and wants to use FL to succeed making their son the Emperor. Both ML and FL are victims here, I don't understand how you think, honestly. Yes, it brought trauma to FL but imagine if she gets to learn who her real enemy are. Who she should protect and help, afterwards, I feel like that's where FL falls in love.
what her family did doesn't change the fact that she had to watch each and every one of her family members die without so much as an explanation as to why it happened. the emperor has a reason but her family was still killed and she had felt powerless as she watched her beloved family die. she even begged to be killed before lehan but even that wasn't given to her.
No, she was given a reason — TREASON. I think you don't remember this because it was only said in the first chapters but it's treason. But FL didn't want to believe it because she thinks her family is good. And ML wouldn't do those things if FL's family didn't plan on killing him and betraying the royal family. If you were on the same day and age as them, you'll understand how it was pretty much the punishment of trying to harm the royal family. Despite it being as traumatic as you say it was, it doesn't change the fact that her family committed treason. And the right punishment for it is death penalty for the whole family and not sparing even one person with their blood. FL was trying to fight because she thought her family was being framed, but they were not so it would not matter how ML would kill her family. They were in the wrong in the first place.
but was it actually clarified that their family committed treason? as far as i know, all they did was rally for the death of the empress? how is that treason? it was never clarified that what they did was so severe that they deserved death sentences. plus, the female lead said the emperor executed families with the excuse of treason even though they didn't do anything that severe.
plus, even without actual evidence that they committed treason, the female lead accepted the death sentence but begged them to execute HER before her brother and what did the emperor do? nothing! you are trying to justify the actions of a cruel man to readers who have not read the novel/spoiler. there's literally no reason for him not to execute the FL first before her brother especially when they did not provide ACTUAL reasons for their so-called "treason." stop asking readers to understand his "nature" and just admit that his character NOW is cruel and unjust. no one is saying he won't have a character development, we're just saying that RIGHT NOW, he's an asshole.
It was confirmed through the spoilers that the family was indeed planning for a treason. They kidnapped FL, who was a princess of anothe kingdom and marry her to her 'brother' to make him the Emperor. The ML was actually 'cleaning' all those who he thinks were a threat to him. The death of the Empress they were rallying was ML protecting himself from Tory, who was revealed to be a spy and tried to kill him on their 1st night.
I'm trying to clarify it because I think it's unfair of them to judge someone too quickly without even learning of the actual situation first. And I was not trying to justify his nature. I was trying to justify how committing a treason could lead your whole clan to treason. No matter how barbaric you say it was, in the eyes of many people, they've already committed a sin. Just like how you guys keep cursing at him (because he killed FL) like you guys want him dead in any way possible, it was like that for him too.
We don't CARE what happens in the future right now he's a fucking ASSHOLE ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Damn I thought fl lead family was just a neutral family, didn't expect them to want to take the royal throne right there. Death penalty it is.
Right now he's an assole for survival. You don't have to excuse his actions, or understand his actions since you will never be in his shoes to feel what he's facing anyway. Also, I feel sorry for the female lead but I don't hate the dude at the same time.
exactly. it was confirmed IN THE SPOILERS. right now, readers can judge the prince however they see fit and in recent chapters, he's been acting like an asshole. i do like understanding the nature of villains and characters and i am very aware that how the prince acts is a result of fear and instinct to survive, even paranoia maybe. but no matter what the reason is, it doesn't change the FL's experience in her past life and it doesn't change the fact that he hurt her.
Omg legit?? Thanksuuuu im a bit confused abt the story huhu, still can't believe that the mc is a kidnapped princess ┗( T﹏T )┛
In this, we have very different opinion. Yes, now, you can call him an a-hole. But considering the fact that there is a very specific reason why does this is why he is understandable in my part. I mean it gets revealed in the spoilers and what would happen, so what's the point getting angry now? Yes, he did hit her but was he did was actually considered morally right. Yes his actions are bad but his intention of trying to save himself from potential threat makes it right. He changes and we know the reasons (through spoilers), so what's the point getting angry at him now? That's what I'm most puzzled and this isn't even real life. If this was happening in real life, I would still be skeptical but the fact that he is an ML and confirms to actually be a good guy??? You guys are practically dismissing the fact that he just wants to survive just like how FL does. FL killed him multiple times in her thoughts, so does that make her equally bad? I believe you guys would say no. Cause you guys understand her and are reading this in her perspective. But what about the ML?
Thank you for explaining what happened and sharing what you're read. As I thought, there's something wrong with the story line because I don't think the ML will act so foolishly. I enjoyed this thread. Salamat.
Thank you for explaining what happened and sharing what you're read. As I thought, there's something wrong with the story line because I don't think the ML will act so foolishly. I enjoyed this thread. Salamat. (▰˘◡˘▰)
you don't get it. there are readers who haven't read the spoilers. readers who has only seen the story in the FL's perspective. why do you ask readers to understand something they haven't even read about yet? and bro, her killing him in her mind is to be expected. he killed her whole family in the past, for fuck's sake! did you think she would just act like an obedient puppy to someone who killed her family without anything being explained to her? you expect her to understand the emperor's reasons when she never even heard of these reasons in the past when she asked them why he wants to execute the family? you're asking us to understand the emperor but you can't even understand why the readers, who has only seen the story in the FL's perspective, are mad at him?
That's why I'm saying I keep saying they should wait to know the other people's perspective before they judge. I keep saying this even before but people are still adamant to hate. And y'see how right I am for you guys to just defend FL? ML is just the same. He wants to survive. Do you think he'll just trust and take care of someone from a family who is against him? It's the same situation, and ML only ever hit her. He never even wanted her to die, that's why he keeps saving her. He wanted her to leave but FL just wouldn't. But I'm not saying this because I can't understand FL's situation, I'm saying they are both understandable.
Okay dude, you need to understand that we just hate the ml. Don't try to give us reasons not to hate him because we are still going to hate him either way, so stop wasting your time. And let this go, my notifications are blowing up and it's annoyingΣ( ￣□￣||)
but why do you want readers to understand him when the story hasn't even progressed to the part when he gets his character development? i like that you really understand characters but asking for people to understand his reasons when his story hasn't even been explained yet is annoying. just let people react however they want because not everyone likes reading spoilers. literally what is the point of reading a manhwa when you already know what's gonna happen? let readers be angry at him and just wait for the moment he gets redemption.
oops sorry brother
You’re completely right.
Libertia I love you but can you be a bit more....like.....not soft? I don't like when people act weak to please others.
me too
She's not being weak, she's playing it smart (▰˘◡˘▰). She's showing herself as weak to go unnoticed by the prince. Cuz she knows that if she goes against him she'd be a goner along side the other characters she's trying to keep safe(⌒▽⌒).
That's like, what I just said I don't like when people ACT weak （￣へ￣）
Wow yall really aren't forgiving , we are all human here we can't be perfect, I just think that we all need a second chance. The way you guys are thinking is like saying somebody who did a hurtful crime can't repent and go to church and become holy, it's like saying a criminal stays a criminal. We can't change what we do in life, but we can certainly make them better and repent for it, sometimes I make mistakes and hurt people, but I think the lesson is that you have to learn from your mistakes, and that's what the ml is trying to do now, so can we all be a little more forgiving.(⌒▽⌒)
PREACH. Lol I me a he did beg to turned back time, and rather than abusing that. He did change, he's changing for the better.
he didn't repent though! he comes back in time knowing what will happen in the future. and this is why he stop himself from being trash this time, it's not like he gets what he did is wrong. he even admits he turns a blind eye to the abuse of the FL and didn't give a shit.
I can forgive him but i find him to be a very boring and pathetic ML who has failed to be any way endearing for the majority of this series. A Likeable ML would have stood up for her sooner or come up with some way to get her revenge or save her from that situation or even just communicate with her and show some compassion. He's just been an ass. It dosn't take any kind of heroics or special character to realize neglecting your wife to death was an oopsie. He is doing the bare minimum here and I'm not going to give him a cookie for doing what most decent people would do.