I was really excited about this webtoon because of its theme and art style, but the story feels immature, especially in the dialogue. I also don’t agree with the female lead’s behavior—while her intentions may be good, she lacks important boundaries, which makes her actions frustrating and unprofessional.
FL's have always been the ones to push the ML's boundaries and get away with it, I guess for this one she didn't even try she has no apprehensions the moment she stepped in that manor. For me I found that amusing but I understand your frustrations.
So my favorite character is gone?
How come Gojo didn't come back to live??!!
okay I read a tweet once, "gojo coming back to life is a happy ending for YOU, not for him."
Can you elaborate it? Because i don't get it. WHY?
bc gojo is satisfied being dead. well,not satisfied, but sort of. he had this airport talk and all with his dead mates. and no sorcerer dies without regret, but in the end, they accept their fate. if gojo did come back and defeated sukuna, the story would be kind of boring. he was set up to lose, to die, from the start only. a man who's the strongest?!?! yeah babe you dying, i know that. his story ends there, bc that's all there is to his life, living as a weapon, and losing whenever he shows his human side. but he's happy when he shows his human side, even for a moment. he feels the emotions, he can't throw away his emotions now can he? him coming back, I feel, would be him rejecting his human side, and accepting his fate as a weapon (which literally everyone in jjk world considered him to be, with few exceptions like geto), so even if he came back, fought and won. he would have proved that in the end, he is indeed a weapon. how sad would that be, a life where you are not considered a human and live, just as a weapon, win just as a weapon. you're the same as some really sharp sword. no human-ness involved. in his death, he became human. to be human is to be mortal. all mortals die. weapons don't. weapons are used, praised, and after the war is won, discarded or kept safe until someone wants to use them again. when he died, he rejected being used. he died for himself, as himself. as satoru gojo, not the strongest. he was finally free from the "the strongest" tag, and became what he always wished people could've seen him as, satoru gojo.
rip my glorious blue eyed king, satoru gojo. you'll always be remembered. you were iconic, truly.
So, how many chapters i have to skip now? Because my heart is weak as well.
If Leila hadn't lost her resolution to go to college, perhaps her life wouldn't have turned out so tragically. Unfortunately, staying in Arvis is not the right answer.
Perhaps, if Layla had made eye contact with Mathias the moment he arrived, or even if she had listened carefully to the conversation he was having with his mother and grandmother, she would have understood that he had returned to his territory in a hunting mode with the complete conviction that he would get what he wanted and that he wasn't talking about the bird at all.
Great observation
Just when I thought there wasn't a character more disgusting than Oscar in this story, then Alicia appears...
Her suggestion sounded so natural, making her sociopathic side very clear.
Hell awaits you both.
What this writer and her publisher are doing to the fans of this manga is unacceptable. The spacing between publications is so great that the reader ends up forgetting the context of the plot. I'm fed up. I'm quitting.
Odeth acted like a real idiot. She knows Bastian's temper yet her blind selfishness spoke louder than her intelligence. Of course, this will create a violent reaction when the guy finds out. I'm not in favor of the abuse she'll suffer at his hands,
but let's face it, she brought this on herself by ruining Bastian's efforts, investments and patience to see justice done for his mother's murder and the abuse he suffered during his childhood. She could have given him a vote of confidence and denounced the blackmail, but no. All for the drama.
But odette fans wont accept that. They would always defend her even after betraying his husband
May this chapter caused some pity for Alícia, but know that she is rotten inside. Always has been. Because of her (and Oscar's madness), Inês and Carcel separated in the 1st timeline, creating these regression cycles. And by poisoning Ines so that she wouldn't get pregnant (as she was afraid that her husband Oscar would possess her and conceive an heir) she made her fell ill and ended up losing his life.
In the end, I can’t put all the blame on the psycho brother for that kiss. Ruby was flirting with Cesar all the time in the name of survivor skills, just to get bitten anyway.
She kept feeding his twisted behavior over and over, and then acted surprised by the outcome, really girl?
Sure, she was flirting with him, but this a woman who was abused throughout both of her lives. All she wanted was to feel safe and loved, but she has no idea how to achieve that, so she believes 'faking it until making it' will help her stay alive. Every time someone around her hinted that her brother is attracted to her, she zones out and get physically sick. It's too much for her to handle. Hence, when she got kissed, she tried to kill herself, because her mind couldn't escape the f*cked-up truth. With Iske, she's slowly peeling off the walls she's put up to protect herself because she finally found someone who genuinely cares for her, but it is not something that will happen over night, due to the constant psychological and physical abuse she's been dealing with throughout both of her lives.
What a unbelievably weird and disgusting comment
how was she flirting with him?????? he would have beaten her if she wouldnt comply you guys are a bunch of sexual assault apologist, probably even a woman yourself
theres so much victim blaming in your comment i dont have any words how yall mad at ruby when CESARE is the literal abuser and SA her against her will
I change my vote man, she had no choice but to act like that. If you were her, you would've done the same rather than suffering more pain. Dislike!!!
This is quite a disgusting way of perceiving the power dynamics between Ruby and Cesar. She wasn't flirting, she was surviving. Plain as that. She got abused into a position where she couldn't do anything but comply. If that's what you think is flirting—if the very act of submission for survival is flirting in your eyes, you have to reconsider how you view it and your outlook on abusive dynamics because it's shallow and have no real basis aside from simply blaming a victim.
Oh you're a big time weirdo if that's your takeaway from her obviously trauma driven behavior.
If I got a second chance at life, even in another dimension, I’d do everything possible not to repeat my past mistakes. That’s exactly why I can’t defend Ruby.
Trauma is not a free pass to act recklessly. It doesn’t make her clueless, and it definitely doesn’t remove her responsibility for her own actions. The rumors about her and Cezar were already everywhere, that was the warning sign. That was her moment to stop. Instead, she doubled down.
You don’t deal with a predator by making them feel comfortable or entertained, and that’s exactly what she did. Like it or not, Ruby encouraged that behavior, especially right under Izak’s nose. The rumors had already reached her husband’s own circle, and what does she do? She keeps feeding Cezar’s delusions, acting like Izak means nothing and like everything is just part of some “plan” to win over the Ducal family.
And let’s be real, despite everything Izak has shown her, she just decides he’s not capable of protecting her? That makes no sense.
At some point, you have to stop blaming trauma and start holding her accountable. Ruby didn’t just “end up” in this situation, she actively contributed to it. She gave Cezar exactly what he wanted: attention, validation, and the illusion that he mattered more than anyone.
I hope the same situation on you <3. Let's see how "smartly" you handle it, oh SO strong woman.
Easy to say, blame the victim and act superior but I'm sure the moment half the dynamic of what is between them hits YOU, you'll crumble faster than a tissue paper in water.
Disgusting outlook. And if you're a woman, girl, I hope you get some psychological help.
Do you have to watch what you say and do around your own brother or else he'll sexually assault you? I'm being serious. She wasn't flirting with her brother. She didn't realize that his obsession wasn't one of owning his poor little sister, so he was her savior. His obsession was much darker. She only played the good naive obedient little sister who idolized her brother because he responded to that. He wanted to be her savior. He loved the adoration he got from her. It gave him a sense of power. At no point did she ever try to seduce him. She analyzes the situation of the people around her and access which approach would work in her favor. With her husband, she found out that being a fan girl worked on him and continued to behave that way. Every person who has been put in that situation can clearly see what she is doing. Every abused person who changed their behavior to fit their abusers mood knows what she's doing. From the partner who decides to cut out friends and family so their partner won't get mad, to a child who won't cry out when their hit by an abusive parent because they know that crying will only trigger more anger and abuse. This is literally the grossest take on her situation and it makes me think that you need help. That your abuser has got you so gaslit into thinking that them abusing you is your fault.
You're more disgusting to wish harm on a real woman in defense of a FICTIONAL one. Her take is definitely wrong but it doesn't harm anyone/bully any real person.
I guess it is almost as sick as blaming the victim. Fictional or not.The story may be fictional but the abuse is very real. That's why they put "trigger warning" on certain chapters because while the abuse didn't really happen to the character, doesn't mean that this type of abuse isn't real. So if your first thought is "well she kind of deserved it", that means you think that certain women deserved to be assaulted because she was nice to him. That shit really happens. While it's not ok to threaten real life harm for a fictional character, it's just as wrong to say that some women deserve to be assaulted.
You can criticise someone without hoping harm for them otherwise there is no difference between you and them in my opinion. And many people don't take fictional things as seriously, maybe they skimmed through certain chapters, maybe they are lit teens not sure of how the world works yet. ITS FICTION and you're hoping someone gets abused because you dont like their OPINION on a fictional story. Target the argument, not the person.
re-replied to add you're not the person I responded to in my earlier replies, I have no issues with you expressing your opinion; my comment was @someone else who said they hope the shit happens to them. Anyways ignore my earlier comment as I don't think u said that, I got notifications to my reply and assumed it's the same person
Like I said "the story is fiction but the abuse is very real". That's why they put trigger warnings on certain chapters. While it didn't really happen to Ruby, this kind of abuse happens to real people. It's primarily women that it happens to as well. When a women gets sexually assaulted, "what were you wearing? How much did you have to drink? Did you lead him on in any way?" Is the usual response to women who come forward. That's why sexual assault is one of the least reported crimes. We normalize abuse by telling little girls that the boy who picks on them or hits them, really likes her. We teach our girls ways to avoid being sexually assaulted by telling them how to behave and what to wear. Don't wear that skirt, shirt, shorts, dress, pants. Don't show too much leg, arms, shoulders, cleavage. If you do, you encouraged them.
People wish for bad things to happen to others all the time. Wishing that someone is harmed in the same way that they felt like it was OK for another person to be harmed, is wishing for "Poetic Justice" or even "karmic retribution". I'm not saying it's right to wish real harm on people but don't go around saying stupid things like "she kind of deserved it" because this kind of abuse happens to real people. I think that person is wrong to wish harm on them because we should be trying to stop this kind of abuse but I can understand why they said it. You don't usually say things about a situation that you don't normally believe.
I put a dislike, so why tf did it change to like. I didn't want to like it. This comment is weird...
Then I am well within my rights to comment that in my opinion you and the other person is more disgusting than the commentor lol
You're well within your rights to do whatever the fxck you want. I really don't care what you or anyone else thinks about me, babygirl. I'm just pointing out the flaws in your logic. And kiddo, I never said it was right to wish harm on anyone but don't act like in some way, you haven't wished karma would punish someone who did or said bad things. That is also wishing harm on another person. Though I'm almost certain you'll say "I've never hoped karma would punish someone". Yeah sure. I was dead ass for real when I stated in my previous comment to the original commenter that their statement makes me think that they live with someone who abuses them or is abusing someone else and has convinced them that it's their fault because of what they said or did to cause the person to abuse them. That's all kiddo.
If people didn't already know that a scene of abuse could cause past trauma to arise, they wouldn't worry about trigger warnings.
I didn't even respond to u in beginning and you've been shooting paragraphs from your ass so I'd say you care a lot. Karma isn't me hoping someone get abused. You've been crappy to me in this thread but I still wish u well and hope u grow up someday. Goodbye
I haven't been crappy to you. I've treated you like everyone else. You were responding to someone who didn't address you, did you not? So I don't know what you're trying to get at by bringing that up but alright. You didn't address me. Yeah. Paragraphs. It's kinda what adults do. If you have a disagreement, how about putting on your grown up pants and talking about it. It's how you gain perspective. So you can see two sides, and why someone believes a certain way, and maybe that can change your own narrow view. That's what grown ups are supposed to do. I got the feeling you were a kid, that's why I started calling you kiddo. My apologies. You'll understand when you grow up. Have a day you deserve.
Did I become disgusting now? Alright, I am fine with that.
Now tell me, did it make you feel good? Being put in that situation, even if hypothetically? Was your first thought, "oh whatever, I can do better" or "this bitch is so disgusting for cursing me with that situation"?
It was the latter. You tried to victimize yourself, like the weak little thing you are, huh?
But ofc if you cannot even HANDLE it, you ofc deserve it, right?
Disgusting is a word that applies to people like you, the ones who victim blame but when someone tries to put YOU in the position of one, you freak out, say, "you're disgusting for thinking that way for a real person"
And yeah. I was, and it was fully intentional and it seems my words did WONDERS bringing out dirt.
I usually do not talk much, and if I do, I am rage baiting for laughs but honestly, your thoughts were so revolting that I felt nauseous.
While I certainly won't say much, I would like to tell you that, that kind of harm isn't 'fictional', it's real, and reality is often worse. When you were victim blaming earlier, did it not occur to you of the many who were suffering the same torment?
I am in no way the benchmark of morality, but to think people like you run rampant....
Oh... you're not the og commentor, huh? But still, to think someone would come like a knight in shining digital armour for a victim blamer. Amusing, truly, peas of a pod.