Ml is literaly a psycho..
Want proof look at the raws..spoilers.
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After kidnaping FL onto a Yat.. when he finaly releas her they get shot at exeting the Yat.. its one of Ml's aquaintenses.. They talk and teh "friend" has fl put in a chinese dress and Ml says shes his...
The Friend runs an human traficing auction house.. Ml gets Fl to become a "bait" under the guise he will buy her.. the Idiot FL belives him and when she is being sold he grins and she is sold.. the buys wants to Test her on stage and starts trying to asult her.. while Ml waits for her to call on him for help with a grin.. FL literaly has to bite the asailant in the face until the buyer tries toi hit her.. only then does Ml interwein.. and hit the buyers goons. Fl the idiot she is is happy.. forgetting he literaly put her up for sale and had her molested by a 50+ guy.. Ml brings out and butload of money and buys FL and wants to kill the molester.. and FL calms him by ...Kissing him... Police storm the auctionhouse and FL gets cloroformed and wakes up in a bed.. Ml's doing again..
I've seen the raws too. This story is sick as hell and the ML is way toxic (and I don't mean in the way that it **may** be acceptable, like in the case of a certain yandere situations).
I think Raise wa Tanin ga Ii has a more accurate (but not wholly) depiction of Yakuza and how a so-called "romance" would work in the real world, even with a toxic ML. But this? This is just sick.
Toxic, toxic, toxic.
At least Kirishima doesn't pretend to be something he isn't and, as far I recall, hasn't laid a hand on Yoshino, even as an accident.
are you serious.....i'm still reading this in hopes the ml suffers and gets a taste of his own shit bc he is the most unlikable ml i have ever encountered
agreed, i was disgusted reading the raws and the amount of ppl here thinking his actions are okay is ridiculous
WTF was the Ex just trying to do? Where he touched FL lit was like she was being corrupted.. and then the spell scrolle.. what was that for? A sleep spell maybe?.. but knowing him being an obsessed ahole its more likely to be wither a memory wiping spell or a controll spell (to turne fl into his little doll)..
At least Ml is willing to talk! And he is 100% right abouth the nature of humans.
Just look at how the Ex talks.. and the knight order acts.
And yet atleast the knights have the decentcy to put two and two together. FL marrying a demon and the war stopping.. aka demon queen is now a human! So dont mess with her!.
But the second FL awakens her saint power ...humans will 100% declare war because (our power!).
Humans are more of a threat than demons . Many people are already destroying mother earth and killing animals. Duh
I kinda wanna put a like in this lmao
Ok so Fl, the heroin, the prince and head knight were all friends who got reincarnated..
Fl and Reo (now Leo) were engaged, Heroin was a female firend who comes of as condesending and head knight was their childhood friend. They all got reincarnated and fl was given a "sheckel" in returne for her wish..
This is just my speculation.. but i think each of them were given a wish and Fl's was most likely to be with them all again.. Heroins was mostlikely to be with Reo ( now Leo), Leo's was to protect FL and head knight (aka childhood friend) was to to proctect FL's smile.
If this is the case that would mean the "shackle" Fl got was that she can never be with leo..and due to her actions of saving Leo.. he became aware of her and prob started to have feelings for her (this is not alowed due to Heroins wish to be the Heroin and together with Leo). As a result Leo is being punished with the assasin events that he is oblivious to due to FL's constant sneak saving him.. In turne Heroin is anoyed with Leo becase he is ment to like her yet eyes FL in secret.. and Leo thinks he is "protecting" FL from danger and posible jelousy of Heroin but failes to see he was the one actualy protected..
It is highly lightly that both Leo and Head knight desided to frame FL to get her out of danger... but in doing so actualy put her in danger... This is seen from the nobel reaction to the accusation of FL... none of the nobels belived it until Head knight brought out the "evidence".. And Heroins reaction was so fake...
Ad to that FL was left to rot in Jail only for Leo and Head knight to "rescue" her and fake her death.. Like FFs man if you like her freaking say so.. to destroy her like that, abandone her, give her false hope and then abandone her again under your internal pretence to "protect" her is wrong!.. And despite you having "tabs" on her you didnt know Fl was hunted and almost killed... FFs man... either be with her or stay out of her life.. after made her "dead" so how about you act like she is dead.
And FL ffs stop "helping/ saving" Leo... he dosnt deserve it! You sacrificed yoru own health to save him form the assasinations.. to the point you heaked yoruself so much your a master of healing magic now.. and ad to that the mental pain of him being "lovely dovely" with the heroin in front of you and even condemming you despite knowing you would never do harm... you still long for that ass hat? All this while you have a Arc demon willing to do anything for you and even saved your life several times.. but no your so obsessed with your none exisisting Ex you cant see shit.
I hate to say it.. but i genuenly hope either the demon wins her over or the prince breaks Fl.. because she is so blinded by her own "love and longing" for Leo she is braindead!
I honestly dont gte the priestesses logic..
In her logic only magic power makes you royalty? Because FL is a twin and she donst have magic power but her twin brother does.... so the priestsess sees the brother as "the prince" but Fl as "the fake princess"? Biach they are twins how the hell can she be a fake?
And there we have not only 1 but 2 readhead that match your asummed "princess" in magic and looks? Like which of the two is it? I bet you dont know.. its just that you are hung up on two facts ... magic power and red hair.. Nothing els matters to you.. So much for being a priestsess when all you go is use your won misguided predjedus.
I’ve also be wondering why can’t they both be princesses? The king obviously knows that the FL isn’t his biological daughter, but he continues to consider her his daughter (although he is definitely not the the best father out there), it’s not the priestesses job to determine who is and who isn’t the kings child.
But thats the thing.. FL and the prince are the Kings Biological kids... Their father became king after his brother died! The heroin is the daughter of the previous king aka FL and princes fathers brother and so the is their cousin!
I thought the Fl was the daughter of the kings and Fl mothers childhood friend
No they aren't. They are the childhood friends kids. They aren't royalty by blood
But wasnt the kings childhood friend a red head aka same ahri as the heroin?.
This story makes absolutely no sense then.. becaus both the prince and FL looks like the bloody king.. and there is a picture of the King with a red haired guy.
Also i got my info from the novel forum where this was posted:
It was explained in chapter 4 that the OG MC was the daughter of the prev saintess and the prev emperor. Current emperor is the prev emperor's brother, so MC and OG MC are actually cousins. The new *bitchy* saintess believes that OG MC has more legitimacy to the throne. Add that the OG MC has the saintess mana inherited from her mom and yes, having same color of hair and eyes as the Goddess who is also the 1st emperor of the empire.
That’s what I’ve been thinking, when she gets called out on her logic I want her to shut up REAL quick
Spoilers about why FL is revived.
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So the four houses were bestoved their powers by a god /deity. The founder of the Rose house was a woman the deity liked very much so the power was passed to her desendents. Fl is the reincarnation on said woman, so the reason she gained the power was because it was always hers! The Deity aloved the founders soul to be reborn and has been waithing for her aka FL. The god / deitys cant stand the fact that the person its waited for so long for diying. Every time FL dies, the deity rewindes time back to when FL's power awoke. The Deity is also the precense FL felt watching her from the garden of the four seasons.
Question to spoilers
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Do you perhaps know why the guy can remember her? And are him and the diety going to clash over the FL?
Sooo... The deity is the second ml? Just curious HAHAHAHAHAHA(￣∇￣")
Question about the spoiler
Wait really cause some of the spoilers I read said that the god/deity kept rewinding time to keep the FL alive because he didn’t want to lose the power she has or something since if she dies then that power will love gone forever
If this is true, I pity her
I just want her to Be happy
FL's soul is the soul of the first Rose head. The reason her ansesters had the power was because she was to be reborn aka regain her powers, so yes if FL dies besfore having decendents the power dies to. Also the reason Fl has to have decendents is because her soul will yet again be reborn down the generations due to the Deity / gods love for her.
I thinks the guys remebers because he may be the reincarnation of his houses founder (cant remember tho) Also if i remember right the deity atm dosnt have a physical form. Tho i do remember someone saying the deity may later posess one of the other family heads or a citicen to be close to FL.
If i remember right the Deity / god loved the first Rose head, but because she had a sad ending he let her soul be reincarnated in hopes of her being happy. It dosnt phycialy want to interfear with her, it wants FL to have a furfilling and happy life so that her soul can pass on. The reason this hasnt happend yes is because as you know FL's family are all A-holes. So the time rewinds is for the power to be passed down (tho this is the exuse the deity uses, when deep down its the deitys wish for FL to finaly have her happy ever after).
Oh ok but honestly that’s really messed up to me cause he has pretty much been watching her so he knows that she’s suffered a lot yet he doesn’t leave her to just die cause like if I saw that I wouldn’t even give a crap about the power or anything cause she’s fucking suffering I get it like she’s basically the reincarnation and all but the one that god/deity knew is already gone idk I just really don’t like that she has to suffer just because that god was in love with her in her past life as the first Rose head
The main thing is that the Daily has no right nor power to affect a normal person life.. so only when FL has the Rose power can the Deity see and try to protect her. The Deity only knows what happend to Fl after her power manifests.. so It sodnt know of the abuse sadly.
Oh ok I thought he knew about the things she went through before her powers manifests that’s why I thought it was messed up to let her keep suffering if he knew about her sufferings. Also does the deity ever show up in front of the FL or does he just stay in the shadows without FL knowing??
If i remember right it prosessed someone to get closer to FL (temp tho) and i belive this is after it learn of her suffering. SO it tries to Fx get rid of Mr Winter the duche.
Oh ok thank god he’s FL’s ally
Yes, all it has ever wanted was for FL to have the life she deserves.
And that deity is right, she honestly deserves the whole entire world with everything she had to go through I’m glad she’s gonna get a happy ending in this life
Spoilers.
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The old fart was part of the same research institut as FL's father, he became jelous for FL's dads sucsess and started studying adictive plants.. He became angry when Fl's dad sucseeded an experiment he himself had failed and so he destroyed ite experiment and was kicked out. He dedicated his life to making a potion / medicin thatw as adictive, increases the users strength and and influence their mind.. All to get back at Fl's dad, but because FL's dad is dead he is targeting FL. Hence he gave the potion to the ex hero to attack her and now has tried to get her to drop medecin all together.. Because to him FL is to much like her dad hence she is now the target of his "grudge".
The aprentice helps Fl find a cure / antidote. They try to follow the old fart but finds it to be a dead end, they break in and finds a lab making the potion and half the vilagers being controled.
Fl manages to get through to the affected ppl and give them the antidote while the asistant gives her heart felt plead to her master, she pleads him to remmeber the ppl he is now hurting and to save not hurt and he surenders.
I feel for Helena.. i realy do but i still cant like her.. The reasons being..
1. We are told she is powerless and weak, but then the next chapter we are shown her as a strong, indipendant and understanding woman.. Like which is it?
2. She acts Dumb and ignorant for her own survivability and piroitizes this act.. Yet we are shown not onece but twice that she has gone out of her way to undermind her own acting to give a detailed explenation of her fully understanding what casued the problem and then asking for forgiveness from both the Head Maid and Eris.. This makes if feel like something shes does when she feels bad about her none actions, but it completly contradicts her "survival" tactic. And comes of as if she has done so more than twice.
3. We se her state that she Understands everything, this inclused her own situation, ppls feelings twards her and relationships.. Yet she donst know the Prince is in Love With Her? Or why OG Eris hated her? Yet she has stated the reasons several times but donst "understand" it.. Or forgets.. it.
4. For someone who HATES atention.. she sure goes out of her way to get it.. Hunting down Eris at every chance to aproach her, and doings so with the other two Ml's.
5. She knows her own position.. and yet for the sake of acing dumb / Friendly..she walks all over New Eris's feeling. Using informal speach when talking to Eris and other nobels. Acting .. Like ... A ...Stalker.. Literaly New Eris cant have one moment of peace.. because Helena will find her.
6. Despite know the rules of etiquet and what to do and not to do when single and with a single or engaged person.. She ignores these..
- Meeting privatly with the High Priest for a "friends" eating at a cake shop. Its common sense man + woman + eating together = relations ship.
- Going to pavilion with the Hero to have an isolated meeking.. lieraly single man + single woman + pavilion = decleration of love.. And this is common knowlege yets she goes.
- Then ofcorse the behavior around the prince and Eris.. Every one know the prince is openly fliring with her yet she donst know? Oh come on...Yes she may no be able to do anything about it.. but girl how can you net see him fliring with you. How blind are you.
7. She is a walking contradiction of her own reasoning for acting dumb, if your going to act.. ACT.. Dont contradict your own reasoning right after you have told us about it..
Also OG Eris was a prick to Helena.. But how does that have anything to do with New Eris?
New Eris is literaly being honest with Helena about their relationship but rather than accepting this Helena goes out of her way to have New Eris in trouble.. You mean to tell me Helena donst know the Prince thinks Eris is bullying her, when he literaly has stated so 3 times already when Helena has aproached Eris.
Girl when someone Tells You TO Leave Them Alone, you leave them ALONE. You dont go hunting for them, tracking them down and forcing them to converse with you!
And yes i say forcing a conversation. I know many are going to say "Eris could just walk away"... Realy now.. How would it look : Helena runs over to Eris and strikes up a conversation, Eris turns around and walks away ignoring Helenas who's smile hase now fadet to a sad expresion.. Are you going to tell me that onlockers wont tell the prince or asume Eris is yet again Bullying Helena?.
Yes finally someone who sees those contradictions!!!! Ppl in comments be like “forgive her”, but for real? Forgive? FORGIVE?! Helena is not a good person even if she believes so, if she was... she should have gave up on Prince after seeing all effort of OG Eris and picked up another noble to fool with her love (like that knight), but noooo she still goes with prince. Does she even love him? Doubt so, it just convenient.
you talk like she can just reject the crown prince's advances on her when clearly she's in a lower position than the crown prince and if she even tried retaliating how badly will it look to others. she can have her mother and even herself executed with how trashy the prince behaves
Oho another defender! Look I won’t like her even if you defend her so you can just reply to other comments below instead (or leave dislike to original poster like usual) :3
Ok so you say she couldn’t clarify anything with Eris then? Yes, can’t reject, but also won’t talk about what she could do like reject Knight, instead she gives him vibes “oh oh what to do? Ok then what I can do anyway” or are you saying she does that on purpose so prince rejects her? Don’t see it. Idk she has weak personality, there are ways she could improve herself, but instead she just accepts everything cuz why not? Prince is trash without doubt, but her I can’t like too.
If she at least tried to clarify, stopped pestering Eris when she said she didn’t want to have anything to do with her or properly accept prince (if she does actually love him or doesn’t) that would be at least some backbone.
As for prince that could kill her family... uh that’s only thing you say in her defense everywhere, but I also read manga/manhwa/novels with charas in even worse scenarios so nah this excuse works only cuz she is just does nothing to run from this situation (not even tried alternate routes to escape it).
I think the main difrence is that with the heroin its was infaturation, and then developed into obsession.
Where as with FL it was respect for work and personality that grew into love.
Its not just that they got to know eacother, its that they first respected eacothers capabilities and work, then knowing the other persons flaws and making up for it. And getting to know eacother personaly like how the other person thinks, this developed into love in the end as the relationship grew closer. Fl may have started with Motherly love, but when she saw heroin that motherly love blosomed into a crush. And as FL got to interact with the heroin, all her instincts screamed "RED FLAG".
In Ml's case the heroin was the first person to love him unconditionaly, but when they got kids he became caperble of sharing love (heroin didnt like that).
With FL the relationship started with mistrust for her, but as Ml tested her he came to respect her skill and dedication for work. With that they grew closer and he started to nitice Fl's flaws aka overworking and not traking care of herself (getting enough sleep and relaxing). Ml started to make fl rest and even had servants make sure se does so out of concern. This developed into them both knowing the others flaws and personaities and being able to talk to eachother and change eachothers minds (Fl stoping Ml from killing, and Ml stoping Fl from colapins from overwork).
As of now they still havnt realized their feelings for eachother, fl thinks its motehrly love but has specs of a crush now and Ml is caring for Fl but donst know why he does so. All servanst already noticed the sparks. It may take some time as Ml dosnt know what love is and would be slow in the uptake of it. Where as FL never thought it to be posible for the 5 years as she thought Ml and the heroin was destined, but that thought is now crushed due to the heroins rotten personality. Fl is starting to have thoughts such as "i cant leave him in Her hands, He deserves better".
+ Now with the marriage Ml may actualy consider FL as a candidate as he knows she is trustworthy, but will hesistate to bring it up as she respects her feelings and dont wana trample them.
That was very well said
And the person possessing Rosaline doesn't have some kind of obvious personality disorder... it's not natural for a mother to look at their children that way (and PPD is besides the point as it wasn't like it was in that time frame, she progressively got more and more jealous over time).
She's also possessive to the point that she'll probably try to kill Rosaline and she excuses all her behaviour behind that she *is possessing* the heroine. Emphasis on possessing because she clearly isn't the same type of person the heroine was, she's just a crazy woman possessing the body of the heroine. So basically she's just beautiful.
No she is the same person as the heroin.. She posessed the heroin in the book and live her life until and after the "happy ending" but she was obsessed with Ml's love and atention so after she had his children and he gave love to them she went crazy thinking "HE SHOULD ONLY LOVE ME! I DESERVE ALL HIS LOVE!" So any actin Ml did such as care for kis kids was seen as cheating in her eyes.. To the point she neglected the kids for years and finaly asutled her husband. SHe was locked up in a part of the palaze and wished for a second chance.. She got her second chance aka the timeline of the manga and was expecting everything to be the same but with it not being the same and her being not the "pure self" she was when she first meet Ml.. SHe is pissed and vendictive and maniplative trying to get the "LOve that is her's".
What OP meant was the Ella were seeing right now already went through the storyline and since she fucked up she had it repeated.
So what OP meant was OG Ella from the actual book who was an actual decent human being is different from Impostor Transmigrated Ella from Korea.
No, she is possessed like Rosaline, she is not he original heroine. This is both stated verbatim when Ella asks Rosaline of she's possessed "too" and shown when it shows "Ella"'s background and she says that she pretended to be Ella.
I'm not the OP, but you're right, that is what i meant.
Lol the Heroin is quite a piece of work.
Spoilers about her story
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So the heroin was originaly a reincarnator who remembered part of her past life but got use to her new one, She and Ml fell in love at first sight and had their "happy" ending.. Exept Heroin was wery greedy and jelous about Ml's atention.. When the first child was born she was happy, but as Mls work took alot of his time and the rest was spent with her and the kid.. she grew Jeouls and wanted him to give her the atention and not their kid.. She contemplated getting rid of their kids to regain Ml's athention..
Later her jelously grew so big she even mistreated their child, and when she finaly had a moment with Ml a maid came and poured him tea, this made the heroin lose it she screamed at the maid and hit her and then hit ml and called him a cheater and so forth.. finaly she tried some shit and Ml had to have her removed... As she was locked up she cursed Ml and voved if she had a second chance she would make him look only at her.
She pro comitted suicide and when she woke up she had her second chance.
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Now we are in the timeline of the manga and the heroin made her apearence expecting the "love at first sight" to happen again. But to bad for her she is 5 years to late and Fl has a place in Ml's heart.
This however dosnt stop her.. heroin aproaches FL and tells her to back off! And later due to her imense jelousy and lust for Ml.. the queen has an ideal puppet to get rid of FL with.
Thats as much as i know.
Wow she sounds like a psycho
You are an amazing person! I was very curious because of what she said and you satisfied my curiosity.
Ty
plz tell me.. is this going to be another one of those "mother died giving brith to you so you dont deserve anything" storied... or a father had mother killed to cover up his wrongdoings and labled it as death from childbirth.. stories.. because so fare both seem likely..