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Sorry meant to up vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlIAhjRwOIE
Adult Wednesday Addams s2e3 Wednesday vs Catcallers

But that girl isn't actually a good person, since almost the beginning I don't have a good feeling about her... and I have read some spoilers that... welll, you'll know later...

WHAT NOOO MY HEART JUST SHUTTERED

He has been improving though? Isn't this the entire plot of the comic? She was someone who slept with people regardless of if she was in a relationship or not and he was a bratty kid and now they're going to find genuine love together?

wait whos sleeping with who??? THE FL? I DIDNT KNOW THAT OR HAVE I MISS SOMETHING and btw abt that, i just find more chemistry with the fl and the woman i just find it more interesting if she ends up with her but since this is a straight manhua, ofc shes gonna end up with the emperor even so

The FL messed around with a lot of people, and never had any genuine connections with the people around her since she often cheated on or with other men, messing up a lot of relationships. That's why she's all like "Oh the emperor is so hot I don't care about his personality I just want to sleep with him!" since she doesn't really care about actual connections with people.
Also, this isn't necessarily a straight manhua, just not a sapphic one.

ohhh i can clearly grasp the situation thank u for telling me this

i gotchu :3

too bad for the last part although the reason for her lack of genuine connection and attraction only to appearances could be a result of compulsory heterosexuality

by girl i assume you mean lady lyn right? Im also getting rather suspicious of her but only from the most recent of the chapters she's appeared in, her expression has changed and im not sure whether it's from the slander she's heard of the empress and being upset of that or her distrust of the empress herself. Although i really don't see why she would suddenly turn to that if the empress was conducting a whole investigation for her sake, even before the deal she made with the emperor. I really want to believe lady lyn is well-spirited though,,

Yes, I'm talking about Lyn

why do i feel like you're the type of person to say that bisexual people aren't real and are just lesbians victims of "comphet"

What? It was literally just my thought process because it's what ive seen lesbians describe with their comphet. she could be bisexual sure but as a lesbian myself it's nice to connect. esp when nothing is confirmed so there's no bi erasure that can happen if she's not canonically bi nor lesbian

Sorry, it's just that whenever a fictional character canonically likes men and is romantically and sexually interested in them and a lesbian brings up comphet to suggest they're possibly a lesbian it's always been biphobic people in my experience. my main experience with lesbians who bring that up or suggest it is usually "bi people aren't real the only option is lesbian," or "bi girls are just girls who are victims of comphet."

i automatically view every character as bisexual unless it's explicitly stated that they're only attracted to one gender, so the sudden increase in lesbians on my TL saying that it's just comphet and they're actually lesbian is just very confused and slightly disheartening as a bi person - cause usually if a woman dates a guy and is canonically attracted to them you would assume they're anything but a lesbian? sorry, long rant, but *she* is canonically attracted to men, the author is not big braining a statement on comphet (which is something you can usually assume when partaking in media that doesn't have a history on or inclination of social commentary).

hey uh, i think you have some things to unpack here. i really don’t have the energy required to sit down and help you with it but seriously, for your own sake, please do some introspection on why you feel this way. because it’s genuinely concerning stuff.

I feel this way because the majority of lesbians I have met who talk about comphet are extremely biphobic and it's a very huge issue. I had a girlfriend, and now I have a boyfriend, and I have had ton of lesbians talk to me and question the validity of my relationship and imply that I don't really love him because I'm actually a lesbian going back in the closet, or I'm degraded as a slut because I dated a girl or someone who just wanted to be oppressed. Biphobia is a huge issue in and out of the LGBT community and so now whenever I see someone calling a character who is romantically interested in men and women a "lesbian" or imply that she's a victim of comphet it triggers a reaction in me because of the rampant biphobia in the lesbian community. Concerning? It was when I felt the need to call myself a lesbian and genuinely question my sexuality because the majority of homosexuals I met said that I wasn't really bi, that I didn't really like boys, or that I wasn't queer enough. But I am comfortable with my sexuality. I am not comfortable when I see lesbians bring up "comphet," especially when it comes to fictionals characters where there is no history in the franchise about big brain commentary about sexuality, because of the large rampant amount of biphobia inside the lesbian community.

biphobia is absolutely an issue, but op wasn’t being biphobic. at all. having lesbian headcanons isn’t inherently biphobic; i mean you said yourself that you hc everyone as bi because You’re bi, but we can’t do it...?
getting mad that lesbians discuss comphet or have lesbian headcanons is honestly really weird! either accept that you’re capable of being lesbophobic - same way lesbians can be biphobic - and work on getting over it, or don’t talk about lesbian issues. if you want to carry on hating us by yourself then whatever, do as you like, but at least have the decency to just scroll past the hcs you dislike without telling us we’re wrong.

when did i say you can't do it? i literally just got anxious because i saw a lesbian discussing comphet and discounting an entire romance plot. i then apologized for assuming, said my personal experiences that caused that anxiety, and then you told me that i have some issues to unpack, i explained that i'm comfortable with my sexuality and am aware of my issues, and now you're saying i'm mad?? i'm really confused. i never once got mad at anyone or stated that anyone was objectively wrong for having a headcanon that disregards canon - just that the headcanon disregards canon. you're free to have ideas that are "wrong." /lh /gen

i'm sorry that i take this stuff seriously, not only do i have genuine issues inside the lgbt community with specifically lesbians who use comphet as a way to disregard male and female love (this is a very specific thing i have an issue with - when lesbians disregard a woman loving a man and use "comphet" as a way to justify those feelings not being real and them actually being homosexual), but i'm also neurodivergent, and i am a fucking stickler for relationships, especially in fiction. i do not know why, i cannot help it. it makes my head hurt. perhaps it's because i'm a writer myself, and it's one of the ways i cope, but whenever people disregard canon character interaction or canon character motivations/personality traits to fit in their headcanon, it makes me icky. usually i don't really commit but that combined with overwriting canon character relationships in order to erase romantic interest by discounting them as "actually a lesbian" just made me feel really shitty. i'm sorry that it came off as if i was saying that you can't headcanon characters as a lesbian when they have canon interest in men, you're free to do so. and i don't hate lesbians. i hate people who disregard actual romantic attraction between women and men and discount that romantic attraction as not being real because they're actually homosexual!!

(and i don't headcanon everyone as bi because i'm bi, i do so because it doesn't get in the way of any canon or other shipping canons. headcanoning a character as only being attracted to one gender just kind of sucks in terms of creativity and when consuming art content. unless the creator says they are only attracted to one gender or not attracted to a specific gender, i'm not going to assume anything. it's less of "they're bi because i'm bi" but a "bi is the most inclusive assumption. and it also avoids comphet. i'm never going to assume a person specifically likes just boys or just girls. bi is kind of the baseline, you know?) /gen /lh

so like, we don’t really disagree on anything major, but your tone makes you sound incredibly hostile, just so you know - it’s the abundance of emotionally charged words, and some of the sentence structures, it reads as though you’re upset ;;;; i’m also neurodivergent and i struggle with tone a lot so i get it but you really do sound like you think lesbianism a bad thing

you’re more than allowed to care about literature and fictional relationships, i do as well, and i don’t view this character as a lesbian, but no interpretation is ”Correct”. my adhd ass cares way too much about literary theory, and as long as an interpretation is based in the text, it is ”true”, (tho i think you already said that lol). if op views this character as a woman suffering from comphet and presents proper reasoning for why that is - e.g. not caring about men beyond their faces, not really valuing their relationships - that isn’t ”false”, nor is it ”erasing romantic interest”, since op interprets this supposed interest as misguided/ nonexistent. like it’s not disregarding canon, it’s a different interpretation of it. it literally cannot be wrong to see things that way and especially not when the author hasn’t said anything about it. i personally don’t agree with it in this case, but none of us have any authority to say that what we think is true is ”The Truth”. i get where you’re coming from but there’s a difference between thinking (privately! to yourself!) that ”this person’s dumb, that hc’s silly”, and calling someone biphobic and claiming that you hate people whose interpretations don’t align with yours? like i also think it feels off sometimes to interpret romantic m/f relationships as confusion or w/e, but for me it depends on the series and how strong the argument is etc. ive read tons of fics in my days that interpret male characters who canonically marry women as either gay or bisexual and i think both are cool as long as the author does it well. i’ve seen sasuke written as both gay and bi and i can get behind both yk? neither is more true than the other and it’s fun seeing different ways the same character can be interpreted. :^) /gen (like the smiley is genuine)

as a sidenote i’ll just copypaste the summary of la mort de l’auteur by roland barthes to further explain what i mean. im sure you know abt it bc you’re a writer yourself and im so sorry (/gen) if i sound like im dumbing things down, but i think it’s a nice quote even if the summary’s from wikipedia;

”In this type of criticism against which he argues, the experiences and biases of the author serve as a definitive "explanation" of the text. For Barthes, however, this method of reading may be apparently tidy and convenient but is actually sloppy and flawed: "To give a text an author" and assign a single, corresponding interpretation to it "is to impose a limit on that text."”
(like isn’t that cool? nothing is true!! everything is subjective! also i just saw a fly die in real time, did you know that they fly around like normal n then drop dead from in the air???)


btw, i didn’t mean you had issues in regards to your own sexuality, i meant that i worry about your perception of lesbians; not as the individuals you have had bad experiences with, but as a social group. and i honestly still think that it seems a bit warped... like have you talked to any normal lesbians? or any of us irl? genuine question bc it is an increasing problem that very few lgbt people i come across seem to have lesbian friends

oh and please stop putting comphet in quotation marks as though it isn’t real, it’s a serious and quite sore + personal topic for most of us, and disregarding all of the work that’s gone into developing the theoretical framework & all of our personal experiences as something that was invented as a biphobic tool or w/e feels incredibly insulting. i understand that you probably haven’t engaged with it that much beyond the biphobic ways people have weaponized this concept, but it is real. there isn’t a lesbian in the world who hasn’t experienced it, because it would require you to have been raised in a completely matriarchal society where attraction to men was actively shunned. it’s a Huge part of the lesbian experience. we talk about it a lot because it’s difficult to deal with, and it’s an isolating feeling, and we need the company/ solidarity. sorry to get so longwinded about this but it is so, so important for us to be able to discuss it, and i don’t want this conversation silenced. like i cannot overstate how much it means for a ’new’ lesbian to learn that other people are like this as well and finally put words to that weird feeling you thought only you suffered from. i hope you can understand even if it’s not necessarily relatable.


final thing, and this isn’t to argue, but your point about bisexuality being the baseline is interesting? though i don’t necessarily agree. had a guy in my class who used to claim that everyone’s bisexual and while i get where he was coming from, gay people are real

i have plenty of lesbian friends. hell i dated one! /pos

i have no problems with lesbians and i am sorry it came off that way. i only feel very shitty whenever i see lesbians talk about comphet because i was basically bullied by several lesbians into thinking that i wasn't bi and was actually a lesbian. and i put comphet in quotes because i was quoting it, not that i was making it sarcastic!! like specifically talking about lesbians who interpret romantic attraction is not existing and the person being homosexual. it is a very very veyr specific niche but i have encountered tons of people. and although it's perfectly valid, in my experience and in just general life, that does tend to bleed into perceptions of real life, so it raises my flight or fight sensation. /lh

personally i agree that everyone is biromantic. it makes no sense to me that people wouldn't find themselves romantically attracted to someone if they perfectly fit all of their criteria. many of my homosexual and heterosexual friends agree, but just say that their preference is so high and they can't invinsion ever meeting one of those people that they just identify as straight or homosexual. bisexuality is a different issue. i know several people who are sexually attracted to both genders but only romantically attracted to one or visa versa. I think people need to realize that attraction isn't just romantic, but also sexual, and it is entirely possible to be biromantic and homosexual, or visa versa. or asexual and biromantic (like me), or aromantic and bisexual. if that makes sense? sorry it's a very... gosh i don't know the english word for it. like difficult and confusing description?? like because for a lot of people love is a combination of romantic and sexual attraction that they only end up being attracted to a specific sex, but that doesn't mean that romantically they can't be attracted to a different sex/gender on a sole romantic connection. and that's valid!! i just think that biromantic is the norm but because of preferences it's very rare for people to experience a romantic attraction so strong it outweighs the lack of sexual attraction or a romantic attraction that meets criteria specific to one gender.

I just find it very weird because isn't romantic attraction about the soul and personality? for some people sexual attraction is a very important part of their relationship and determining their romantic attraction (of course that is valid), or perhaps the part of the personality they like the most is determined by experiences commonground for a specific gender identity, but the idea of not being romantically attracted to one's soul just because of their outside body seems strange to me. romantically and sexually i completely understand. i'm glad we could clear this up!

once again a lot of my views are based on my experiences with being basically gaslit into believing that my sexuality was a lie and i was actually a victim of comphet which led to a super bad time in my life - i was extremely biphobic and also basically forced myself to believe i was also homosexual and would be willing to have sex with a girl (i am incredibally sex repulsed due to personal experiences and it really fucked me up.). a lot of those old people in my life still trash talk me and talk about how my current relationship is basically me going back into the closet and shit talking my bf about how he's basically abusing me because i'm "actually a lesbian" and the relationship is "basically rape." (which considering my past experience with SA is extremely in poor taste). those same girls also call my relationship a "heterosexual relationship," which is literally comphet - because it's assuming we're both heterosexual when i'm biromantic and he's questioning but asexual.

Once again, no issues with lesbians at all, but when an author writes a character in love with a guy at a current state of the book and i see people talking about comphet i get a little bit iffy and assume that it bleeds into their real life interpretations of straight passing relationships due to my really shitty experience. my original comment was just me guessing what they were like in real life and it kind of led here. i'm glad we could talk though!! and i do know not all lesbians are like this and comphet is a genuine issue. in one of my stories i'm actually writing a character who forces themselves into unfulfilling heterosexual encounters due to thinking it's meant to be this way because they romantically love their partner before realizing they're actually homosexual and love girls a lot more. it also goes into a little bit more at length about transphobia (she prefers girls due to mutual experiences and a feeling of comfort she gets just in general terms, and when she encounters a trans girl she starts feeling a little confused. it takes place in a fictional world so society did develop a little differently than ours (a lot differently, cultures are inspired by ones that developed on earth based on ideas such as geograqphical location, possible trade routes and resources, you know the drill), but a big part of it is dealing with differences between romantic and sexual attraction, as well as gender identity. so no problems with lesbians. i love my fellow sapphics!!

and she's literally being considerate but she just misunderstood the situation between her and her husband, i dont understand how u guys went to the point of hating her

well it cant be called reincarnated right??? bec she just came back to her old body and not to someone elses

yea.. it's really more of a time travel instead of reincarnation.

ohhh yeah thank u for the answer

She did the development but turns as villain. She already said that the 2nd she thinks it was dream, the last one she didn’t remember, and when she remember all she want was revenge. So my conclusion is each life is different. This time she also want revenge but she also want a good life.

She never knew love and affection, being treated badly was all she knew. Also, she already took revenge from her family in her 6th time travel. So right now she's tired of her family's shit and wants to die.

OHHH THANK U BUT THE LAST SENTENCE MADE ME CHUCKLE ITS TOO ACCURATE