So they call her darker skin color and appearance “disgusting” and then the authors turn her white? What kind of racist bs is this? I was excited for a dark skin female lead too....I’m glad the comments warned me. I’m dropping.
While I love the fact that both Arhaid and Ianna don’t know the other knows the past (and I agree this makes the story better)...it still seems like a plot hole to me? Like realistically wouldn’t one of them have slipped up and/or slipped up on purpose to test the other? Like with Arhaid he should’ve seen Ianna registering to the commoner school after killing her mother and grandfather as huge red flags, these are both things she didn’t do in the past. Arhaid not only is the type to do a background check in their past lives on the girl but he also would’ve known that Ianna did not go to the same school as him. I feel like with the way Arhaid is portrayed he would’ve questioned her either directly/indirectly about the past to see if she knew. With Ianna it is understandable why she didn’t question him but has suspicions. Although, after the amount of time they spent together I feel like if any of us were Ianna we would’ve tested him considering how the Black Fox/Camostos changed from the past and Arhaid hugging her like that in the beginning of the story.
In all honestly I could ignore everything except the fact that Arhaid didn’t directly/indirectly question the girl about the past after he saw that she started attending the school.
Arhad would never think she has her memories cz they reincarnated multiple times and he remembered her but she didn't have her memorial (remember she was also a goddess and stuff, yada yada, and they kept reincarnating)
Also he assumed that if she remembered him she would never be kind to him or talk to him,, and she would hate him cz he basically killed her
There is a line when he revealed his thoughts in this.
Let's juts say in their past life they didn't understand what each wanted from each other and their relashionhsip
I'd I remember correctly,, I think iana tried testing waters before and she thought him safe, like he doesn't have his memorise,, but the way she did it was so ambiguous so it wasn't even noticed by arhad
I have a theory that arhad actually rewinded time after she kills ianna cause in the original timeline the only reason ianna remembered her past life is because when she died that was her first life and thus her first time being reincarnated. Get me? and i think the reason why arhad doesn't questions her is because he thought he changed the past events thus him believing the reason why ianna do the thing she does is because of him appearing earlier than expected. But i do agree that he didn't question ianna on her new behaviour.
Avery did not grow up expecting to become a Duchess while Albert grew up to expecting to become an Earl. The guy she loves who went out of his way to propose to her despite their difference in status and also had a plan (creating a fake identity for her, etc) was willing to give up his birthright to be with Avery. Although, while I do like Avery’s choice, I like how the authors made a feminist nod to us through the aunt. In the same way Albert’s father and the Crown Prince questioned Albert on giving up the Earldom “all for a woman” the aunt questioned Avery on giving up the Dukedom “all for a man.”
Title is self explanatory but Nova was a orphan child who lived in the real world 30 years prior. Nova then lived in a fake world without any memories and no real human interaction for 30 years. The only thing he knew about himself was that he was a powerful magician. Nova then returned into the real world, regained his memories of being an orphan child, and then doesn’t have any magic powers. So what happens to Nova? How is he going to integrate back into human society? How is he going to deal with the psychological affects of being isolated from human interaction for 30 years without any memories during the key moment in his development (the amount of years would have been longer in the book)? Like they really said congrats Nova you returned to the real world and left it at that. A “the adults (school headmaster & teachers) will handle that” like they did in the beginning of the story would’ve been nice.
I’m more offended by how, in this story, the further one drifts away from blonde hair/white skin the more villainous they become. Like I wasn’t surprised how the Muslim envoy was depicted and treated because I already saw it coming when the author had both main leads (Princess and Crown Prince) be blonde and the second main lead having whitish hair. Then I had red flags ringing when the only people in this story that had black hair was the King of the Eastern nation (who was depicted as a cruel person -by the background they showed of him- and who was the only character who liked Marie but stood absolutely no chance with her) and Ariel who was shown as a b!tch. Like it’s sad that when they first showed us the images of Ariel and Rachel I immediately knew that the one Marie was going to choose was Rachel just based on the fact that Rachel was also blonde. The situation with the envoy further cemented the idea in my head that the author was being racist throughout the story.
Or you're just reading far too much into this, and trying to confirm your own pre-existing bias. For example, how exactly is Rachel a good person ? She lies and uses Marie, and from what I've read in spoilers, she turns out to be a real bitch. Her skin and hair colour weren't what indicated that she would be the white lotus chosen by Marie, but rather her seemingly innocent appearance (clothes, hairstyle, demeanor). Same for the envoy : he is presented as excessive (what with his overreaction to the food), but not evil — at most, he is presented as someone willing to fight for his people, which isn't exactly what I would call evil or wrong. And what of Marie's ex-husband ? Was he a nice white guy ? And the other maids who bullied her ?
This is not about racism, it's about your willingness to see it everywhere, including where it doesn't exist.
While I do see your side of things I still stand by what I said. There is a reason why Rachel, a character who you said was chosen for her innocent like appearance, has blonde hair while Ariel, a character who was right away shown as rude/disrespectful, has darker hair. Also, I never said the envoy was evil. But both main leads, who we are meant to like, find fault with him. So I’m sure you can agree that the envoy wasn’t written in a positive light? Regardless, I’m just saying there is a reason why the envoy is dark skinned.
As for your bottom statement, racism does exist everywhere. It is rooted not just in history but in our society today, in every single country in this world, through implicit bias.
Oh, I agree racism exists — it is indeed a biological feature to prefer members of your own group, who look like you, and with ignorance throughout history, of course that would lead to ideas about racial hierarchies in all human groups. However, to say that it permeates everything, even to this day, is excessive. Very often, and in cases such as this, offense is in the mind of the beholder — offense is taken, after all.
If, from two characters among the plurality of them in the story, you deduce that this story or author are racist, I do feel it's a subjective misconception rather than any objective fact. Among so many characters, more or less good, with different hair and skin shades, the two which happen to stand out in the latest chapters happen to have one dark hair and the other dark skin, with one merely being an entitled brat and the other not even being portrayed as particularly bad or inferior are enough to make you assign motives and designs where there probably are none ? Again, I don't agree, and I persist in thinking you should take a step back, and evaluate whether this opinion you hold comes from observable, objective elements, or merely interpretations based on very tenuous (at best) evidence.
I am not offended by the story, the only reason why I used the words “more offended by” in my original post was because I felt the issue I brought up was more offensive than other comments who noticed islamophobia within the story. Also, I don’t find the author or story racist, however, to me, there are things in the story that come off as racist.
I guess we can agree to disagree? I personally believe that the author has used the age-old white = good and dark = bad association throughout the story (whether on purpose or subconsciously I do not now). Using this association, especially in characters, is something I find to be problematic because of the racist implications.
Hello!
Pretty pale person here (Latina though ┑(￣Д ￣)┍). Don't think it matters though I think there is some value in showing where one is culturally coming from.
I do think racism permeates to this day through systemic racism so I must disagree with you on that point.
Though I do find the overuse of muslim characters as villains truly ridiculous, I don't think this is an exemplary case of this. So in that I agree with you. To be perfectly honestly, I've seen worse situations appear, especially in manga, so I can't say this is a good example of a racist situation. Especially since for now, he's just a tricky ally of a neighboring country. I'll admit that it could go down a racist route super fast, but for now I am remaining optimistic.
I think @btsqurux makes a good point though, as it is very important to be conscious of these situations. If not, we can allow misconceptions to plague all popular forms of media and unconsciously interpret them as truth, hurting others.
I do encourage you all to read Remarried Empress. Even though he is second lead, he is so much second lead sydrom that I wanna take him for myself 0o0. But the main is also cute though. Beside this manhwa I never really noticed that colored or muslim type of characters are often evil. But that could be because I read different kind of genres compared to you all ><.
Oh I've read that. It is *amazing* almost shipped him harder than the ML. The issue that tends to happen is that manga doesn't usually have colored characters and when they do, it tends to always be villains, perpetuating the stereotype. It's not an immediate "thats racist" moment but it is something we have to be conscious of. Remarried Empress is
ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ though. Cannot wait for the king to get dead-ed
I think you would both like “Amina of the Lamp” ! (: The way I was shook when we saw main lead guy and even more shook when we saw the secondary female character!
Don't get me started on that ML. He is pure husbando material. (≧∀≦)
Like the way he handles the politics of the situation is just (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
AND HIS EYES
sorry ok rant over
Not going to lie as soon as I saw that the “good” one was the blond girl and the “bad” one was the black haired girl I peeped that the author was kind of biased in a way maybe not on purpose but it did happen and it’s already been written lol ╮(￣▽￣)╭ (〜￣△￣)〜 (づ￣ ³￣)づ idk
As a brown muslim, I under What you meam however, I don’t see the hair colour as anything bad but the skin colour is extremely annoying. They always make the rivalling country have ‘dark’ skin colour and they are known for being savages and rougj etc. I especially hate in Chinese and Korean novels (even ones that are out in 2020) where they still idolise having ‘fair’ slin and anything dark looks ugly. It makes me feel especially offended. Like how in the manga where the girl had dark slin as she has the piwer of darkness (i cannot remember the name currently) and the light goddess comes aling and gives her a wish and turns her ‘fair’ like y, is it an insult to be dark
Hello Asian here, just want to point out that there is some bias when it comes to blondes in Asia. I know not everyone is biased when it comes to blondes but many do prefer blonde over black hair color. I guess it's just the way or how most films project blonde as a good or innocent, or exotic looking being. Having born with blonde hair is coveted in Asia, especially in East Asian countries. This was based on my experience, some people in my class prefer to befriend western (caucasian) transfer student vs non caucasian foreign students (unless they are either handsome or pretty) I was like them at first because I didn't know better, however my views changed after moving. So yeah that's just what I want to point out.
Oh I have read that yeah!
AHHHH THE TWINS/BROTHERS IN THE VISION IN CH 24 WHO WERE SAYING THAT THEIR MASTER WAS IN LOVE WITH THE PRINCESS/EMPRESS IS THE SAME AS THE GUYS AT THE END OF CHAPTER 28!!!!
Because the girl during the vision said she would overlook the two brothers rudeness that means that in the original future the main leads were also in love with each other!!!! How cute!!! I wonder what happened between them in that version?
Tell me why I spent 64 chapters thinking that the main lead girl was a adult guy in her old life bc of the silhouette that was shown in chapter 0/1? When the writers showed how the girl looked in her old life (grey hair, with mole) and talked about how she was changing back to how she used to look I thought that meant they were gonna have the girl turn back into a guy. Like I was seriously out here wondering why the authors turned the guy into a girl who was pretending to be a guy but then was actually turning back into a guy (the ml girl said that she was returning to her old appearance). Not to mention I was wondering what gender the girl who I thought was really a guy was into, like I know the girl is “straight” in this world because ml lead guy is Mr. Qin but I didn’t know if the ml was into guys in the previous life? Like I was out here thinking there was gonna be a arch where the ml realizes that she was into guys and wasn’t just playing around?
I would’ve read the story differently if I knew that she was actually a girl in her old life too (who apparently might’ve also been a high schooler?). I only found out by asking in the topics after catching up on the story. :/
lmao i thought the same, at around ch 50 something i came to the realisation that she was a girl and not a guy in the previous life (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
The title is self-explanatory. Like was main lead girl a guy before in her old life?
Nope
She was a female
Did the authors forget about the blonde alchemy girl who was supposed to go to the festival or was she unable to attend the festival anymore? At first I thought okay maybe the alchemy group is traveling separately but the pink haired girl is part of the alchemy group? So why haven’t we seen ml girl’s blonde friend yet and instead sis is hanging with a girl her friend doesn’t like?
She fell sick so she was unable to go with them to the festival. I think they mentioned it right before she left for the tripp.
Yeah they did
Thank you!! I must’ve misread that bit!
I can’t wait for mc to have more guy friends his age! Although I was happy when the bromance with Elijah started, I really thought Lucas was gonna be one of those rival - friends bromance...like imagine how powerful that would’ve been (but bc of the dungeon incident this is impossible now unfortunately). The wasted potential. Also, I don’t know if I’m tripping but mc is constantly surrounded by girls? It’s really getting on my nerves... like obv each girl character the guy spends enormous amounts of time with is gonna be seen as a potential love interest by the readers. Especially when these girls start simping for him! Like why can’t the author give us a break from all of that guesswork and headaches by having guy characters? Or is the author doing this on purpose bc of the shounen tag and to create some sort of harem?
jasmine is like a big sis not a love interest
I was thinking the same thing and I really hope it's not a harem, cuz it destroys literally everything ╥﹏╥
And I really really really hope that if it has romance it's Arthur and Tess (others are free to do whatever they want, I would totally totally love this combo~~)
Yep and she’s like 12 years older than him
yup